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	<title>Comments on: WHERE BUSH WENT WRONG</title>
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		<title>By: p.lukasiak</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2005/05/27/where-bush-went-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-2288</link>
		<dc:creator>p.lukasiak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2005 11:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; And what response did that good-faith admission receive? A three-week pile-on by all the usual suspects – utter evisceration. &lt;/i&gt;

Big difference here.  Bush was acknowledging that he had lied to the American people, not that a decision he had made was wrong.  And the reason he was "eviscerated" was because everyone had already figured out that he had been lying about Iraq --- but the press had been so cowed by Bush's jingoism that the revelation of the lie was the first chance that the press had to tell the truth about Bush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> And what response did that good-faith admission receive? A three-week pile-on by all the usual suspects – utter evisceration. </i></p>
<p>Big difference here.  Bush was acknowledging that he had lied to the American people, not that a decision he had made was wrong.  And the reason he was &#8220;eviscerated&#8221; was because everyone had already figured out that he had been lying about Iraq &#8212; but the press had been so cowed by Bush&#8217;s jingoism that the revelation of the lie was the first chance that the press had to tell the truth about Bush.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Moran</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2005/05/27/where-bush-went-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-2283</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Moran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2005 23:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheran:

CONGRATULATIONS! You managed to get three - count 'em three - left wing boogey men in TWO sentences!

Fox News
Rove
Cheney

Bonus points for calling the President of the United States stoooooooooopid.

What happened to Haliburton?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheran:</p>
<p>CONGRATULATIONS! You managed to get three - count &#8216;em three - left wing boogey men in TWO sentences!</p>
<p>Fox News<br />
Rove<br />
Cheney</p>
<p>Bonus points for calling the President of the United States stoooooooooopid.</p>
<p>What happened to Haliburton?</p>
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		<title>By: SherAn</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2005/05/27/where-bush-went-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-2282</link>
		<dc:creator>SherAn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2005 23:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the lot of you have been watching too much Fox "News."  Dubya is a loser.  The man can't string two sentences together.  He's NOT the man:  it's Cheney and Rove.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the lot of you have been watching too much Fox &#8220;News.&#8221;  Dubya is a loser.  The man can&#8217;t string two sentences together.  He&#8217;s NOT the man:  it&#8217;s Cheney and Rove.</p>
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		<title>By: bigair9</title>
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		<dc:creator>bigair9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2005 22:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick, I say to hell with liberal criticism of Bush. If Bush cured cancer they would still demonize him for not being  able to walk on water. Liberals are perpetual sniveling whiners and obstructionists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick, I say to hell with liberal criticism of Bush. If Bush cured cancer they would still demonize him for not being  able to walk on water. Liberals are perpetual sniveling whiners and obstructionists.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Moran</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2005/05/27/where-bush-went-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-2279</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Moran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2005 18:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ultimately, you're correct. I was trying to advance the notion he would probably gain in the long term for any recognition that he was mistaken.

And like I said, the torture doesn't appear to be systematic but rather many isolated incidents. And the saluatory effect of Rumsfeld leaving might blunt additional criticism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ultimately, you&#8217;re correct. I was trying to advance the notion he would probably gain in the long term for any recognition that he was mistaken.</p>
<p>And like I said, the torture doesn&#8217;t appear to be systematic but rather many isolated incidents. And the saluatory effect of Rumsfeld leaving might blunt additional criticism.</p>
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		<title>By: Fresh Air</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2005/05/27/where-bush-went-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-2277</link>
		<dc:creator>Fresh Air</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2005 16:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay. Systematic lack of control might be grounds for resignation, though I haven't seen a laundry list of that. But keep in mind we're fighting in a two-front war with 170,000 troops in the field. A lot of things are going to happen no matter who the SecDef is.

Underestimation of the insurgency? Okay, but I still don't see what good it does. Bush's critics don't play fair and he knows that. They merely want to humiliate him. I think he is a basically humble, but confident, man who learned long ago that the Democrats were basically dishonest, and that displays of humility would only weaken him. Look what happened to Carter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay. Systematic lack of control might be grounds for resignation, though I haven&#8217;t seen a laundry list of that. But keep in mind we&#8217;re fighting in a two-front war with 170,000 troops in the field. A lot of things are going to happen no matter who the SecDef is.</p>
<p>Underestimation of the insurgency? Okay, but I still don&#8217;t see what good it does. Bush&#8217;s critics don&#8217;t play fair and he knows that. They merely want to humiliate him. I think he is a basically humble, but confident, man who learned long ago that the Democrats were basically dishonest, and that displays of humility would only weaken him. Look what happened to Carter.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Moran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Moran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2005 16:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really think that underestimating the insurgency was a mistake that should be acknowledged NOW - couldn't do it during the election but what good would it do? Dispel a little of the "arrogant" label that the Dems are successfully using on issues like the filibuster.

I agree about Abu Ghraib...but there's much more. Not systemic but enough isolated incidents that someone high up has to take the blame.

And yeah...I know Rummy offered to resign...and it should have been accepted. That was my point. Would have been clearer if I had mentioned your point about resignation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really think that underestimating the insurgency was a mistake that should be acknowledged NOW - couldn&#8217;t do it during the election but what good would it do? Dispel a little of the &#8220;arrogant&#8221; label that the Dems are successfully using on issues like the filibuster.</p>
<p>I agree about Abu Ghraib&#8230;but there&#8217;s much more. Not systemic but enough isolated incidents that someone high up has to take the blame.</p>
<p>And yeah&#8230;I know Rummy offered to resign&#8230;and it should have been accepted. That was my point. Would have been clearer if I had mentioned your point about resignation.</p>
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		<title>By: Fresh Air</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fresh Air</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2005 16:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes on vetos, yes on asking for sacrifice, no on admission of wrong--what would that prove, anyway? As "a" says above, it would just hand his bad-faith critics a weapon to beat him with. Plus, he hasn't been wrong on all that much that matters.

Abu Ghraib? You have got to be kidding. A minor-league jailhouse scandal surpassed every day by &lt;b&gt;actual&lt;/b&gt; torture, not simulated, and brutality in every single Muslim country save (yes!) &lt;i&gt;Iraq&lt;/i&gt; is supposed to result in the resignation of our Secy. of Defense? Bah! (Also, remember Rummy offered to resign at least twice and Bush refused to accept.)

Karpinski was sacked, as she should have been. It's been time to move on for over a year now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes on vetos, yes on asking for sacrifice, no on admission of wrong&#8211;what would that prove, anyway? As &#8220;a&#8221; says above, it would just hand his bad-faith critics a weapon to beat him with. Plus, he hasn&#8217;t been wrong on all that much that matters.</p>
<p>Abu Ghraib? You have got to be kidding. A minor-league jailhouse scandal surpassed every day by <b>actual</b> torture, not simulated, and brutality in every single Muslim country save (yes!) <i>Iraq</i> is supposed to result in the resignation of our Secy. of Defense? Bah! (Also, remember Rummy offered to resign at least twice and Bush refused to accept.)</p>
<p>Karpinski was sacked, as she should have been. It&#8217;s been time to move on for over a year now.</p>
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		<title>By: a</title>
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		<dc:creator>a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2005 07:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush did once admit he was wrong about something: the famous 16 words in the 2002 SOTU.  (Ironic that they turned out to be correct).

And what response did that good-faith admission receive?  A three-week pile-on by all the usual suspects - utter evisceration.

He isn't stupid.  If his opponents are going to respond to a good-faith admission with bad-faith opportunism, well, he ain't going to do that again, is he?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush did once admit he was wrong about something: the famous 16 words in the 2002 SOTU.  (Ironic that they turned out to be correct).</p>
<p>And what response did that good-faith admission receive?  A three-week pile-on by all the usual suspects - utter evisceration.</p>
<p>He isn&#8217;t stupid.  If his opponents are going to respond to a good-faith admission with bad-faith opportunism, well, he ain&#8217;t going to do that again, is he?</p>
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		<title>By: TJ Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJ Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2005 04:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm sorry that Bush is Bush.  Rumors that he is a conservative are spread by the trolls at the Democratic Underground and the Kos Kids.  I'm sorry to see you identify with Mr. Cole who is about as much of a center-right member as Andrew Sullivan.  Perhaps you meant center-right of the Hillary Party?

I don't understand stem cell research?  You want more government subsidies for big business and yet complain about spending?  Consistent?

We get to hear about torture-are we referring to the whack jobs that would reduce this country to dhimmietude?  The folks that slaughter kindergarten kids and behead their captives?  I'm sick of folks that say we must understand and respect Islam.  Yeah lets respect a religion that says kill those who don't accept us, kill Islamics who want to leave, kill Islamics that work with the infidel and on and on and on.  Am I supposed to respect this?

Yet we get to hear the anti Christian bigotry of these same people accusing Christians of imposing a Tali ban.  Well if any sort of theocracy is to be established it will be those extremist fundamentalist secularists.  

Bush looks good because the Democrats have lost all reason and principle.  They can no longer differentiate between good and evil.  Its no wonder they continue to lose.  The battle over judicial appointments only highlights their desperation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry that Bush is Bush.  Rumors that he is a conservative are spread by the trolls at the Democratic Underground and the Kos Kids.  I&#8217;m sorry to see you identify with Mr. Cole who is about as much of a center-right member as Andrew Sullivan.  Perhaps you meant center-right of the Hillary Party?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand stem cell research?  You want more government subsidies for big business and yet complain about spending?  Consistent?</p>
<p>We get to hear about torture-are we referring to the whack jobs that would reduce this country to dhimmietude?  The folks that slaughter kindergarten kids and behead their captives?  I&#8217;m sick of folks that say we must understand and respect Islam.  Yeah lets respect a religion that says kill those who don&#8217;t accept us, kill Islamics who want to leave, kill Islamics that work with the infidel and on and on and on.  Am I supposed to respect this?</p>
<p>Yet we get to hear the anti Christian bigotry of these same people accusing Christians of imposing a Tali ban.  Well if any sort of theocracy is to be established it will be those extremist fundamentalist secularists.  </p>
<p>Bush looks good because the Democrats have lost all reason and principle.  They can no longer differentiate between good and evil.  Its no wonder they continue to lose.  The battle over judicial appointments only highlights their desperation.</p>
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