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		<title>By: Lenny Zimmermann</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2005/08/10/i-want-a-new-drug/comment-page-1/#comment-44242</link>
		<dc:creator>Lenny Zimmermann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2005 19:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris stated: "I started using marijuana, now reliably known to be a gateway drug, just as critics have been contending for years."

I would contend that it is not reliably known to be a gateway drug. http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1046/j.1360-0443.2002.00280.x;jsessionid=opclFahk62oaWQPkqx?cookieSet=1&#38;journalCode=add

Shows a paper concluding "our results demonstrate that the phenomena used to motivate belief in such an effect are consistent with an alternative simple, plausible common-factor model. No gateway effect is required to explain them."

http://www.ajph.org/cgi/content/abstract/94/5/836
"Results. With the exception of higher drug use in San Francisco, we found strong similarities across both cities. We found no evidence to support claims that criminalization reduces use or that decriminalization increases use.

Conclusions. Drug policies may have less impact on cannabis use than is currently thought."

And see for more:
http://www.drugscience.org/sfu/sfu_gateway.htm

While I agree that drug ABUSE is something that we, as a individual members of our society, should provide education and rehabilitative support for, I would argue taht having the government directly involved in the matter is of no use, and may, in fact, be more harmful to the cause.

Private and charitable organizations tend to be far more capable and successful at treating drug abuse than the government ever has been with prohibition laws.

I appreciate and greatly sympathize with your position, Chris, but you seem, to me, to be an example of why government involvement in prohibition is a failure. You were still pulled to the allure of drugs and fell to the consquences of drug abuse and addiction despite the government's ban on the very substances you became addicted to. It is those factors of abuse and addiction that we need to address in order to facilitate helping our fellow human beings, not making the drugs illegal since that has never proven to be useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris stated: &#8220;I started using marijuana, now reliably known to be a gateway drug, just as critics have been contending for years.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would contend that it is not reliably known to be a gateway drug. <a href="http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1046/j.1360-0443.2002.00280.x;jsessionid=opclFahk62oaWQPkqx?cookieSet=1&amp;journalCode=add" rel="nofollow">http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1046/j.1360-0443.2002.00280.x;jsessionid=opclFahk62oaWQPkqx?cookieSet=1&amp;journalCode=add</a></p>
<p>Shows a paper concluding &#8220;our results demonstrate that the phenomena used to motivate belief in such an effect are consistent with an alternative simple, plausible common-factor model. No gateway effect is required to explain them.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ajph.org/cgi/content/abstract/94/5/836" rel="nofollow">http://www.ajph.org/cgi/content/abstract/94/5/836</a><br />
&#8220;Results. With the exception of higher drug use in San Francisco, we found strong similarities across both cities. We found no evidence to support claims that criminalization reduces use or that decriminalization increases use.</p>
<p>Conclusions. Drug policies may have less impact on cannabis use than is currently thought.&#8221;</p>
<p>And see for more:<br />
<a href="http://www.drugscience.org/sfu/sfu_gateway.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.drugscience.org/sfu/sfu_gateway.htm</a></p>
<p>While I agree that drug ABUSE is something that we, as a individual members of our society, should provide education and rehabilitative support for, I would argue taht having the government directly involved in the matter is of no use, and may, in fact, be more harmful to the cause.</p>
<p>Private and charitable organizations tend to be far more capable and successful at treating drug abuse than the government ever has been with prohibition laws.</p>
<p>I appreciate and greatly sympathize with your position, Chris, but you seem, to me, to be an example of why government involvement in prohibition is a failure. You were still pulled to the allure of drugs and fell to the consquences of drug abuse and addiction despite the government&#8217;s ban on the very substances you became addicted to. It is those factors of abuse and addiction that we need to address in order to facilitate helping our fellow human beings, not making the drugs illegal since that has never proven to be useful.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2005/08/10/i-want-a-new-drug/comment-page-1/#comment-40552</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2005 03:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, my cousin has Tourette's Syndrome.  She manifests it in a continuous series of snorts, grunts and whistles.  She has been put on Haldol to control it.  Needless to say, she uses as little medication as possible.  This can be very unsettling upon meeting her.

She is a Montessori teacher, minoring in three subjects at a small college in Virginia.  She wants to begin teaching drama in a Montessori setting.  Her dream is to introduce children to drama as a way of connecting with each other, and with society as a whole.  She wants to contribute to society by strengthening it at a local level, by building up it's newest members.

Up yours, Bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, my cousin has Tourette&#8217;s Syndrome.  She manifests it in a continuous series of snorts, grunts and whistles.  She has been put on Haldol to control it.  Needless to say, she uses as little medication as possible.  This can be very unsettling upon meeting her.</p>
<p>She is a Montessori teacher, minoring in three subjects at a small college in Virginia.  She wants to begin teaching drama in a Montessori setting.  Her dream is to introduce children to drama as a way of connecting with each other, and with society as a whole.  She wants to contribute to society by strengthening it at a local level, by building up it&#8217;s newest members.</p>
<p>Up yours, Bill.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2005 02:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's fascinating to watch the responses as someone's favorite ox gets gored.  We've heard from Jeff Harrell, who really, really doesn't like drug use, or apparently users.  We've heard from Bill who thinks Jeff is unstable.  We've heard from various other personalities involved in drug use in various ways, some directly, some indirectly.  Even those involved directly in drug use seem to be content to downplay potential hazards in favor of a more laissez-faire policy.

I am one of the 5 percent who recover for more than two years.  I have abstained from drug (and alcohol) use for almost 19 years now.  Abstention has become a habit; I no longer really crave mind-altering substances, or only rarely, usually under duress.  I relapsed once, for about a week, a few months after I completed treatment (30-day inhouse).  I do not believe that I have another recovery in me, so a second relapse is simply out of the question.

I started using marijuana, now reliably known to be a gateway drug, just as critics have been contending for years.  It certainly was for me.  The perceived need to alter reality is the real problem of drug use.  Once you get a taste of mind-altering substances and like the effects, it is natural and almost inevitable to begin trying different ones.

I progressed from pot to hash to uppers to psychedelics to coke.  I finally bottomed out on coke, just about the time that crack was coming into widespread use in suburban areas.  Fortunately I went into treatment after only two marathon crack sessions.

I went into treatment to avoid losing my wife and my son.  I stayed in treatment for myself, because you can't do it for anybody else but yourself.  We were told that out of a group of twenty, two people would stay clean for one year.  I am one of those people.  I do not know who the other one was.

The point of this lengthy introduction is to agree with Rick.  We have enough legal substances that cause harm.  These substances have been with us for centuries.  The decisions to allow them into society openly have already been made.  What we must ask ourselves is this:  What benefit will mankind obtain from expanding this pantheon?  What costs will be incurred for the perceived benefit?

I already know what the price is for a little recreation.  Approximately two percent of the population are latent addicts, just waiting to get into the vicious circle of using.  That's 5.6 million people in this country.  Who wants to give them carte blanche to begin to destroy themselves and their families, friends and loved ones?  Do we really want to encourage that many people to engage in behavior that can be so detrimental to them?  Do we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s fascinating to watch the responses as someone&#8217;s favorite ox gets gored.  We&#8217;ve heard from Jeff Harrell, who really, really doesn&#8217;t like drug use, or apparently users.  We&#8217;ve heard from Bill who thinks Jeff is unstable.  We&#8217;ve heard from various other personalities involved in drug use in various ways, some directly, some indirectly.  Even those involved directly in drug use seem to be content to downplay potential hazards in favor of a more laissez-faire policy.</p>
<p>I am one of the 5 percent who recover for more than two years.  I have abstained from drug (and alcohol) use for almost 19 years now.  Abstention has become a habit; I no longer really crave mind-altering substances, or only rarely, usually under duress.  I relapsed once, for about a week, a few months after I completed treatment (30-day inhouse).  I do not believe that I have another recovery in me, so a second relapse is simply out of the question.</p>
<p>I started using marijuana, now reliably known to be a gateway drug, just as critics have been contending for years.  It certainly was for me.  The perceived need to alter reality is the real problem of drug use.  Once you get a taste of mind-altering substances and like the effects, it is natural and almost inevitable to begin trying different ones.</p>
<p>I progressed from pot to hash to uppers to psychedelics to coke.  I finally bottomed out on coke, just about the time that crack was coming into widespread use in suburban areas.  Fortunately I went into treatment after only two marathon crack sessions.</p>
<p>I went into treatment to avoid losing my wife and my son.  I stayed in treatment for myself, because you can&#8217;t do it for anybody else but yourself.  We were told that out of a group of twenty, two people would stay clean for one year.  I am one of those people.  I do not know who the other one was.</p>
<p>The point of this lengthy introduction is to agree with Rick.  We have enough legal substances that cause harm.  These substances have been with us for centuries.  The decisions to allow them into society openly have already been made.  What we must ask ourselves is this:  What benefit will mankind obtain from expanding this pantheon?  What costs will be incurred for the perceived benefit?</p>
<p>I already know what the price is for a little recreation.  Approximately two percent of the population are latent addicts, just waiting to get into the vicious circle of using.  That&#8217;s 5.6 million people in this country.  Who wants to give them carte blanche to begin to destroy themselves and their families, friends and loved ones?  Do we really want to encourage that many people to engage in behavior that can be so detrimental to them?  Do we?</p>
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		<title>By: Lenny Zimmermann</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2005/08/10/i-want-a-new-drug/comment-page-1/#comment-40362</link>
		<dc:creator>Lenny Zimmermann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2005 13:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a little light reading that may enlighten some of the "statistics" constantly thrown about in the "War on" mindset where it concerns pretty much any of the "consensual crimes".

http://www.mcwilliams.com/books/books/aint/toc.htm

Definitely worth a read and nicely covers the arguments, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a little light reading that may enlighten some of the &#8220;statistics&#8221; constantly thrown about in the &#8220;War on&#8221; mindset where it concerns pretty much any of the &#8220;consensual crimes&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mcwilliams.com/books/books/aint/toc.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.mcwilliams.com/books/books/aint/toc.htm</a></p>
<p>Definitely worth a read and nicely covers the arguments, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Eno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 23:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Naked Ape, for reminding me how deluded folks on the left can be on occasion. A little internet search would show you the history you evidently forgot. Nixon actually started the first real anti-drug legislation that in the "War on Drugs" vein in 1973. Reagan then started use of the term "War on Drugs" and Nancy got the typical first lady assignment and headed up the "Just say no" campaign. That idea stressed personal choice and individual responsiblity rather than stronger sentencing to stop drug use. I'm sure the terms personal choice and individual responsibility are confusing to a Clinton man. 
Bill "Never inhaled" Clinton ran in 1992 and 1996 as the "War on Crime" president.During his term he greatly strengthened the sentencing guidelines and started "Zero tolerance" policies on many fronts, especially those drugs he was too ignorant to inhale. Between 1996 and 2001 General B. McCaffery was the nation's drug Czar and took the incarceration of Americans (especially minorities)to a new extreme. I doubt you would want to be naked in one your prez's prisons Naked Ape, they aren't easy going places. Please check out the Center for Juvenile and Criminal Justice website for the history of the "Incarceration President" ( www.cjcj.org )
Lastly dude, please don't try to impress me with aging (or dead) guys who liked to catch a buzz. I'm an aging guy who likes to catch a buzz,o.k. If you read my piece you might understand that the policies in place hurt people far more than a few joints. I'd advise you to relax, chill, and smoke a bone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Naked Ape, for reminding me how deluded folks on the left can be on occasion. A little internet search would show you the history you evidently forgot. Nixon actually started the first real anti-drug legislation that in the &#8220;War on Drugs&#8221; vein in 1973. Reagan then started use of the term &#8220;War on Drugs&#8221; and Nancy got the typical first lady assignment and headed up the &#8220;Just say no&#8221; campaign. That idea stressed personal choice and individual responsiblity rather than stronger sentencing to stop drug use. I&#8217;m sure the terms personal choice and individual responsibility are confusing to a Clinton man.<br />
Bill &#8220;Never inhaled&#8221; Clinton ran in 1992 and 1996 as the &#8220;War on Crime&#8221; president.During his term he greatly strengthened the sentencing guidelines and started &#8220;Zero tolerance&#8221; policies on many fronts, especially those drugs he was too ignorant to inhale. Between 1996 and 2001 General B. McCaffery was the nation&#8217;s drug Czar and took the incarceration of Americans (especially minorities)to a new extreme. I doubt you would want to be naked in one your prez&#8217;s prisons Naked Ape, they aren&#8217;t easy going places. Please check out the Center for Juvenile and Criminal Justice website for the history of the &#8220;Incarceration President&#8221; ( <a href="http://www.cjcj.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.cjcj.org</a> )<br />
Lastly dude, please don&#8217;t try to impress me with aging (or dead) guys who liked to catch a buzz. I&#8217;m an aging guy who likes to catch a buzz,o.k. If you read my piece you might understand that the policies in place hurt people far more than a few joints. I&#8217;d advise you to relax, chill, and smoke a bone.</p>
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		<title>By: Naked Ape</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naked Ape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 21:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody wants to hang out with a worthless stoner...

But what about the not so worthless stoners like Carl Sagan and Richard Feynman? (OK, bad examples, they would be boring to hang out with because they are deceased.) The point is not all pot users are dead ringers for Spicoli and there is a difference between use and abuse.

Oh, and does the phrase "Just say NO!" ring a bell? Methinks the Drug War might have predated Slick Willie by ten years or so. Ronnie Raygun gets full credit for this ridiculous charade, of course Slick Willie is guilty of not stopping it, as are the Bushes (senior and junior).

While on the topic of the obvious: Criminalizing drug use does tend to increase the correspondance between criminality and drug use. I remain unsurprised by this.

Cheers,

Naked Ape</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody wants to hang out with a worthless stoner&#8230;</p>
<p>But what about the not so worthless stoners like Carl Sagan and Richard Feynman? (OK, bad examples, they would be boring to hang out with because they are deceased.) The point is not all pot users are dead ringers for Spicoli and there is a difference between use and abuse.</p>
<p>Oh, and does the phrase &#8220;Just say NO!&#8221; ring a bell? Methinks the Drug War might have predated Slick Willie by ten years or so. Ronnie Raygun gets full credit for this ridiculous charade, of course Slick Willie is guilty of not stopping it, as are the Bushes (senior and junior).</p>
<p>While on the topic of the obvious: Criminalizing drug use does tend to increase the correspondance between criminality and drug use. I remain unsurprised by this.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Naked Ape</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Blonde&#8217;s Garage &#187; Drugs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Blonde&#8217;s Garage &#187; Drugs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 18:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Eno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody wants to hang out with a worthless stoner or obnoxious drunk, and that's not the point. I agree with most of Nuthouse's points, but disagree about the effect of legalization. I'm a state public defender, so I see the "war on drugs" in the trenches. We waste a tremendous amount of resources on jailing users. Now can we all agree that there are people who use both alcohol and drugs "responsibly" in the sense that they do not harm those around them and do nominal harm to themselves? I think we can.
I would like to think more conservatives would also realize that drugs, like all comodities are market driven. Nuthouse's point about the government dealing with Peruvian thugs is pretty good, but don't you think that they are thugs because they deal only with thugs in the distribution system? The illegal distribution sytem now in operation won't go away overnight, true, but by using law enforcemen resources against those in illegal distribution rather than illegal use would be a savings in terms of billions. Furthermore, if you could buy a drug legally as opposed to buying it illegally and facing a jail sentence for your efforts? Nuthouse is right, the illegals have too much invested to go away, but a huge percentage of their customers will disappear.
Now let me get my conservative bonafides back up in the picture: Drugs are bad!!! There, I said it. I've used them all and they can destroy lives of users and innocents around them. Nuthouse's comment about alcohol is well taken, why should we allow more debilitating substances in the world legally? Another excellent point. Right now someone is preparing a response to me with something like "My mother (sister,brother,father, best friend, etc.)was destroyed by Meth (coke, pot oxys, etc.)" Look dudes, this is 70% of my clientele. My officemate had all three of her sentencings this morning cancelled because all three guys failed pee tests.These losers couldn't come to Court clean!!!! I know how awful drugs can be! But let me remind you that we are currently "at war" with drugs since Pres. Clinton. Today, ten years later, this office can't complete one damn hearing because the guys are too stoned. 
I'm not a libertarian who says "F--- the innocents", really I'm not. I'm just a realist who says jail time for everbody like Harrell wants is foolish, way too expensive, and doesn't work. Personally, I'm for legalizing all substances, FDA control and making all behaviors often credited to drug use (i.e. DUI, breaking and entering, forgery, or delivery of substances outside the system) should be punished harshly. It would work better than what we've got, and certainly couldn't work any worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody wants to hang out with a worthless stoner or obnoxious drunk, and that&#8217;s not the point. I agree with most of Nuthouse&#8217;s points, but disagree about the effect of legalization. I&#8217;m a state public defender, so I see the &#8220;war on drugs&#8221; in the trenches. We waste a tremendous amount of resources on jailing users. Now can we all agree that there are people who use both alcohol and drugs &#8220;responsibly&#8221; in the sense that they do not harm those around them and do nominal harm to themselves? I think we can.<br />
I would like to think more conservatives would also realize that drugs, like all comodities are market driven. Nuthouse&#8217;s point about the government dealing with Peruvian thugs is pretty good, but don&#8217;t you think that they are thugs because they deal only with thugs in the distribution system? The illegal distribution sytem now in operation won&#8217;t go away overnight, true, but by using law enforcemen resources against those in illegal distribution rather than illegal use would be a savings in terms of billions. Furthermore, if you could buy a drug legally as opposed to buying it illegally and facing a jail sentence for your efforts? Nuthouse is right, the illegals have too much invested to go away, but a huge percentage of their customers will disappear.<br />
Now let me get my conservative bonafides back up in the picture: Drugs are bad!!! There, I said it. I&#8217;ve used them all and they can destroy lives of users and innocents around them. Nuthouse&#8217;s comment about alcohol is well taken, why should we allow more debilitating substances in the world legally? Another excellent point. Right now someone is preparing a response to me with something like &#8220;My mother (sister,brother,father, best friend, etc.)was destroyed by Meth (coke, pot oxys, etc.)&#8221; Look dudes, this is 70% of my clientele. My officemate had all three of her sentencings this morning cancelled because all three guys failed pee tests.These losers couldn&#8217;t come to Court clean!!!! I know how awful drugs can be! But let me remind you that we are currently &#8220;at war&#8221; with drugs since Pres. Clinton. Today, ten years later, this office can&#8217;t complete one damn hearing because the guys are too stoned.<br />
I&#8217;m not a libertarian who says &#8220;F&#8212; the innocents&#8221;, really I&#8217;m not. I&#8217;m just a realist who says jail time for everbody like Harrell wants is foolish, way too expensive, and doesn&#8217;t work. Personally, I&#8217;m for legalizing all substances, FDA control and making all behaviors often credited to drug use (i.e. DUI, breaking and entering, forgery, or delivery of substances outside the system) should be punished harshly. It would work better than what we&#8217;ve got, and certainly couldn&#8217;t work any worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Stop The ACLU</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stop The ACLU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;ACLU Wants All Drugs Legal&lt;/strong&gt;

&#8220;The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) opposes criminal prohibition of drugs. Not only is prohibition a proven failure as a drug control strategy, but it subjects otherwise lawabiding citizens to arrest, prosecution and imprisonment for wha...</description>
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<p>&#8220;The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) opposes criminal prohibition of drugs. Not only is prohibition a proven failure as a drug control strategy, but it subjects otherwise lawabiding citizens to arrest, prosecution and imprisonment for wha&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Moran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Moran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 15:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't argue the dangers of alcohol vs. marijuana. I say both are equally dangerous to one's health when used in excess.

And I agree about who I'd rather be around.</description>
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<p>And I agree about who I&#8217;d rather be around.</p>
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