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	<description>Politics served up with a smile... And a stilletto.</description>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; The Story &#38; The Truth</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2005/09/28/when-thats-the-way-it-is-isnt/comment-page-1/#comment-80281</link>
		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; The Story &#38; The Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2005 01:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ory &#38; The Truth Posted by Curt on September 28, 2005 at 07:53     	Rick over at Rightwing Nuthouse has a great post summarizing the latest greate [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ory &#38; The Truth<br />
 Posted by Curt on September 28, 2005 at 07:53</p>
<p> 	Rick over at Rightwing Nuthouse has a great post summarizing the latest greate [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Right Wing Nut House &#187; CARNIVAL OF THE CLUELESS #15:  Politics served up with a smile&#8230; And a stilletto.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Right Wing Nut House &#187; CARNIVAL OF THE CLUELESS #15:  Politics served up with a smile&#8230; And a stilletto.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 17:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: LKM</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2005/09/28/when-thats-the-way-it-is-isnt/comment-page-1/#comment-71391</link>
		<dc:creator>LKM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 20:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I believe is lost in so many discussions still going around the internet a month after Katrina, is that the death toll and mayhem from Katrina has ended up to be nowhere near what was originally predicted or feared (or rumored). Katrina was absolutely beyond horrible and many families are suffering terribly. I do not mean to diminish the deaths and destruction in ANY way. However, by any realistic standard 1000 dead is just not the same level of catastrophe as 10,000 deadâ€¦.especially in a wide-swath cat 4 hurricane that hit in heavily populated areas. Itâ€™s just not. So, in my mind the whole story, the whole premise, is now different than it was presented early on with respect to blame or accountability- whichever word you prefer. Yet, it seems so many of us are still stuck at and reacting to the â€œoriginalâ€ premise and still (perhaps unconsciously) framing the story around that original (incorrect) premise of 10,000 deaths.

There is not one single level of government from the Parish administrators to City and State officials to the Federal government (including Congresses past and present) that did not make mistakes, did not miscalculate, did not mis-communicate, and did not fail to do things that should have been done to protect the populace both before and during the hurricane. That is a fact. It is undeniable. No one deserves a â€œpassâ€ on this one. As a society we absolutely must evaluate all those points of response and responsibility in a clear-headed way, learn from the mistakes and failures, replace officials where warranted, redraw disaster plans, and try to do a much, much better job next time. (All the while knowing that circumstances will be different â€œnext timeâ€ and things WILL still go wrong next time.)

But, in all fairness, every one of those governmental entities mentioned above also planned things, and did things, and ordered things, and appropriated things and arranged things that certainly saved lives and helped prevent an even worse catastrophe from materializing. Add to that the work of the private disaster response organizations. Maybe what they all did in concert was a large part of the difference between 10,000 and 1000 deaths? Can we accept or even entertain that possibility? Maybe the whole disaster reponse to Katrina was actually quite a bit better than we have been able to admit. Wouldn't it be interesting totry to at least test that out as a frame for the story?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I believe is lost in so many discussions still going around the internet a month after Katrina, is that the death toll and mayhem from Katrina has ended up to be nowhere near what was originally predicted or feared (or rumored). Katrina was absolutely beyond horrible and many families are suffering terribly. I do not mean to diminish the deaths and destruction in ANY way. However, by any realistic standard 1000 dead is just not the same level of catastrophe as 10,000 deadâ€¦.especially in a wide-swath cat 4 hurricane that hit in heavily populated areas. Itâ€™s just not. So, in my mind the whole story, the whole premise, is now different than it was presented early on with respect to blame or accountability- whichever word you prefer. Yet, it seems so many of us are still stuck at and reacting to the â€œoriginalâ€ premise and still (perhaps unconsciously) framing the story around that original (incorrect) premise of 10,000 deaths.</p>
<p>There is not one single level of government from the Parish administrators to City and State officials to the Federal government (including Congresses past and present) that did not make mistakes, did not miscalculate, did not mis-communicate, and did not fail to do things that should have been done to protect the populace both before and during the hurricane. That is a fact. It is undeniable. No one deserves a â€œpassâ€ on this one. As a society we absolutely must evaluate all those points of response and responsibility in a clear-headed way, learn from the mistakes and failures, replace officials where warranted, redraw disaster plans, and try to do a much, much better job next time. (All the while knowing that circumstances will be different â€œnext timeâ€ and things WILL still go wrong next time.)</p>
<p>But, in all fairness, every one of those governmental entities mentioned above also planned things, and did things, and ordered things, and appropriated things and arranged things that certainly saved lives and helped prevent an even worse catastrophe from materializing. Add to that the work of the private disaster response organizations. Maybe what they all did in concert was a large part of the difference between 10,000 and 1000 deaths? Can we accept or even entertain that possibility? Maybe the whole disaster reponse to Katrina was actually quite a bit better than we have been able to admit. Wouldn&#8217;t it be interesting totry to at least test that out as a frame for the story?</p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2005/09/28/when-thats-the-way-it-is-isnt/comment-page-1/#comment-70662</link>
		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 22:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was very disappointed in almost all the media coverage of these events. Some of the stuff being said, by the Mayor and others not in media, really had me wondering what was going on. So much of what was reported was myth...it amazes me to no end. This will make a good book someday.
Great post Rick, as always!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was very disappointed in almost all the media coverage of these events. Some of the stuff being said, by the Mayor and others not in media, really had me wondering what was going on. So much of what was reported was myth&#8230;it amazes me to no end. This will make a good book someday.<br />
Great post Rick, as always!</p>
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		<title>By: the paperboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>the paperboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 21:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nagin: "They have people standing out there, have been in that frickinâ€™ Superdome for five days watching dead bodies, watching hooligans killing people, raping people."  What a freakin' joke of an excuse for a mayor.

Graham: "Of course, Sean, this happens in a country when we have taken God out of our schools and God out of our society. We donâ€™t have a moral standard and we need to put God back into our schools."  He COULD have said "This happens in a cultural diverse society where poverty drives some to greed and desparation."  But no.  He has to use it as a platform for proselytizing his own religious agenda.

Lets bring back the days of the Hindenburg.  "Oh, the humanity!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nagin: &#8220;They have people standing out there, have been in that frickinâ€™ Superdome for five days watching dead bodies, watching hooligans killing people, raping people.&#8221;  What a freakin&#8217; joke of an excuse for a mayor.</p>
<p>Graham: &#8220;Of course, Sean, this happens in a country when we have taken God out of our schools and God out of our society. We donâ€™t have a moral standard and we need to put God back into our schools.&#8221;  He COULD have said &#8220;This happens in a cultural diverse society where poverty drives some to greed and desparation.&#8221;  But no.  He has to use it as a platform for proselytizing his own religious agenda.</p>
<p>Lets bring back the days of the Hindenburg.  &#8220;Oh, the humanity!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Brainster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brainster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 20:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simple rule: If it's anti-Republican, run with the rumor.  If it's anti-Democrat, it must be carefully vetted and then buried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simple rule: If it&#8217;s anti-Republican, run with the rumor.  If it&#8217;s anti-Democrat, it must be carefully vetted and then buried.</p>
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		<title>By: Melanie Haddon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melanie Haddon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean Hannity asked Franklin Graham tonight why "on the one hand" some people have risked their lives to help the hurricane victims while "on the other side, we have looting, shooting, rape and mayhem."

Graham answered, "Of course, Sean, this happens in a country when we have taken God out of our schools and God out of our society. We don't have a moral standard and we need to put God back into our schools."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean Hannity asked Franklin Graham tonight why &#8220;on the one hand&#8221; some people have risked their lives to help the hurricane victims while &#8220;on the other side, we have looting, shooting, rape and mayhem.&#8221;</p>
<p>Graham answered, &#8220;Of course, Sean, this happens in a country when we have taken God out of our schools and God out of our society. We don&#8217;t have a moral standard and we need to put God back into our schools.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The majority of the reporting done by the elite "old media" is now driven by their left-wing ideological agenda. The "reporters" who peddle what passes for journalism continue to drive the "old media" reputation into disrepute. Major old print media outlets recently abolished jobs in the newsroom and the major old broadcast networks will soon have similar reductions in force. The new "Fair &#38; Balanced" news outlets are gaining audience share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The majority of the reporting done by the elite &#8220;old media&#8221; is now driven by their left-wing ideological agenda. The &#8220;reporters&#8221; who peddle what passes for journalism continue to drive the &#8220;old media&#8221; reputation into disrepute. Major old print media outlets recently abolished jobs in the newsroom and the major old broadcast networks will soon have similar reductions in force. The new &#8220;Fair &amp; Balanced&#8221; news outlets are gaining audience share.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim King</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting: Critics of the federal government's response to Katrina (mostly on the left) had no trouble with the misreporting of the events mentioned here in Rick's story, for, at the time, it furthered their Bush-bashing agenda.

The Center for Media and Public Affairs' Matthew Felling said the "gusts of a hurricane both cloud and obscure vital truths." So, too, did these storm conditions hinder and slow ANY response from ANYWHERE. 

But, the above acted to cloud and obscure the truth of what really happened and, at the time, that was all just swell for the Bush-bashing bunch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting: Critics of the federal government&#8217;s response to Katrina (mostly on the left) had no trouble with the misreporting of the events mentioned here in Rick&#8217;s story, for, at the time, it furthered their Bush-bashing agenda.</p>
<p>The Center for Media and Public Affairs&#8217; Matthew Felling said the &#8220;gusts of a hurricane both cloud and obscure vital truths.&#8221; So, too, did these storm conditions hinder and slow ANY response from ANYWHERE. </p>
<p>But, the above acted to cloud and obscure the truth of what really happened and, at the time, that was all just swell for the Bush-bashing bunch.</p>
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		<title>By: Giacomo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Giacomo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant, Rick.  And needing to get the scoop is no excuse for dangerous irresponsibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant, Rick.  And needing to get the scoop is no excuse for dangerous irresponsibility.</p>
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