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		<title>By: best replicas</title>
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		<dc:creator>best replicas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2005 18:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;replica watches&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<title>By: ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 01:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the response. My concern in responding in the first place is that a two party system has been useful in shaping American life for centuries and we seem to be rapidly moving away from this premise. My concerns are with the underlying structure of our political system, not with promoting Democrats. When liberal thinkers once again are in power, and they certainly will be at some point, an effective opposition party will be needed at that time as well. Those promoting the minority interest help keep those in power from abusing power (and those in the minority) and from the mistakes of hubris that come from exercising unchecked power. The post-WWII history of the Democratic party easily confirms the danger of hubris and overreaching into abusive, unproductive use of power - fill in your own examples.

I still feel that the majority party of the moment, the Republicans, try to delegitimize all efforts of Democrats, even the very pale efforts at policy, by personal attack and mudslinging. Open policy debates are out of the question, it seems, by the efforts of both Democrats and Republicans.  
By example, I came here with a straightfoward concern and questions and your commenters assail my intelligence and motives with insults and sarcasm. My first impulse is to respond in kind, but dialogue and learning is more important to me than being right or toeing any company line. You recited a litany of Democratic misdeeds. Fair enough. Any Democrat could cite a similar list of Republican misdeeds. This doesn't solve anything. We used to have dialogue and compromise between the majority and minority parties. Do we still want that, and if so, the minority party, whoever it is, must have a way to dissent and oppose that is respected and heard by the majority, or we have moved away from a two party system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the response. My concern in responding in the first place is that a two party system has been useful in shaping American life for centuries and we seem to be rapidly moving away from this premise. My concerns are with the underlying structure of our political system, not with promoting Democrats. When liberal thinkers once again are in power, and they certainly will be at some point, an effective opposition party will be needed at that time as well. Those promoting the minority interest help keep those in power from abusing power (and those in the minority) and from the mistakes of hubris that come from exercising unchecked power. The post-WWII history of the Democratic party easily confirms the danger of hubris and overreaching into abusive, unproductive use of power - fill in your own examples.</p>
<p>I still feel that the majority party of the moment, the Republicans, try to delegitimize all efforts of Democrats, even the very pale efforts at policy, by personal attack and mudslinging. Open policy debates are out of the question, it seems, by the efforts of both Democrats and Republicans.<br />
By example, I came here with a straightfoward concern and questions and your commenters assail my intelligence and motives with insults and sarcasm. My first impulse is to respond in kind, but dialogue and learning is more important to me than being right or toeing any company line. You recited a litany of Democratic misdeeds. Fair enough. Any Democrat could cite a similar list of Republican misdeeds. This doesn&#8217;t solve anything. We used to have dialogue and compromise between the majority and minority parties. Do we still want that, and if so, the minority party, whoever it is, must have a way to dissent and oppose that is respected and heard by the majority, or we have moved away from a two party system.</p>
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		<title>By: diamond</title>
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		<dc:creator>diamond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 23:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick, somehow I don't believe that ed will be able to digest your info and use it.  Snarky might not be used, since he has admired your ability to use the English language.  Even went so far as  to admit that he didn't expect your  talent as a blogger.

You have broken his heart and maybe, just maybe he watched Brit Hume Fox News tonight and heard Mort explain why the Dems are such a sorry lot and why they are reduced to the behavior they displayed yesterday.  Surely ed can then figure out all his questions for himself.  D'ya think?  Yeal, me neither.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick, somehow I don&#8217;t believe that ed will be able to digest your info and use it.  Snarky might not be used, since he has admired your ability to use the English language.  Even went so far as  to admit that he didn&#8217;t expect your  talent as a blogger.</p>
<p>You have broken his heart and maybe, just maybe he watched Brit Hume Fox News tonight and heard Mort explain why the Dems are such a sorry lot and why they are reduced to the behavior they displayed yesterday.  Surely ed can then figure out all his questions for himself.  D&#8217;ya think?  Yeal, me neither.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Moran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Moran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 21:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having been in the minority for most of my professional life, I can tell you a few things about what the role of the Democrats should be:

1. Politics stops at the water's edge. The stunt pulled by the Dems yesterday had absolutely nothing to do with "getting to the truth." The truth has been out there dissected to death by the 9/11 Commission, the Senate Intelligence Committee, The Butler Commission in Great Britain, and the Dulfer Report. How much more "truth" do you want. Isn't it just a little bit strange that all of those bodies found exactly the same thing; that pre war intel was not "twisted" in any way shape or form. That the majority of the world's intel services believed that Saddam had huge stockpiles of WMD? That Clinton and the Democrats believed the same thing? 

You live in a world where the truth doesn't matter -at least objective truth. When Democrats can say with a straight face that voting machines in Ohio were hacked from a remote location and vote totals changed, why can't you see that the overwhelming majority of thinking people are laughing out loud at you? 

The same goes for the "twisting" of intel before the Iraq war. The spate of leaks by the CIA after the war ended and no stockpiles of WMD found were a blatant attempt to shift blame from their own sorry asses to the Administration. As usual, they missed the big one. 

The problem is that the Dems have no idea how to act as a minority party. Viscous personal attacks instead of policy alternatives. I can tell you that both Ronald Reagan and George Bush #41 worked with Democrats for the good of the country when you were in the majority. But the dems refusal to offer any alternatives whatsoever except naysaying the Republicans has gotten tiresome and worn. It is why even with all of Bush's troubles you don't have a ghost of a chance to take back the Congress.

The American people simply don't trust you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been in the minority for most of my professional life, I can tell you a few things about what the role of the Democrats should be:</p>
<p>1. Politics stops at the water&#8217;s edge. The stunt pulled by the Dems yesterday had absolutely nothing to do with &#8220;getting to the truth.&#8221; The truth has been out there dissected to death by the 9/11 Commission, the Senate Intelligence Committee, The Butler Commission in Great Britain, and the Dulfer Report. How much more &#8220;truth&#8221; do you want. Isn&#8217;t it just a little bit strange that all of those bodies found exactly the same thing; that pre war intel was not &#8220;twisted&#8221; in any way shape or form. That the majority of the world&#8217;s intel services believed that Saddam had huge stockpiles of WMD? That Clinton and the Democrats believed the same thing? </p>
<p>You live in a world where the truth doesn&#8217;t matter -at least objective truth. When Democrats can say with a straight face that voting machines in Ohio were hacked from a remote location and vote totals changed, why can&#8217;t you see that the overwhelming majority of thinking people are laughing out loud at you? </p>
<p>The same goes for the &#8220;twisting&#8221; of intel before the Iraq war. The spate of leaks by the CIA after the war ended and no stockpiles of WMD found were a blatant attempt to shift blame from their own sorry asses to the Administration. As usual, they missed the big one. </p>
<p>The problem is that the Dems have no idea how to act as a minority party. Viscous personal attacks instead of policy alternatives. I can tell you that both Ronald Reagan and George Bush #41 worked with Democrats for the good of the country when you were in the majority. But the dems refusal to offer any alternatives whatsoever except naysaying the Republicans has gotten tiresome and worn. It is why even with all of Bush&#8217;s troubles you don&#8217;t have a ghost of a chance to take back the Congress.</p>
<p>The American people simply don&#8217;t trust you.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 21:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kyle:

Nice snarky comment, but nothing resembling a thoughtful answer to my questions.</description>
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<p>Nice snarky comment, but nothing resembling a thoughtful answer to my questions.</p>
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		<title>By: kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 21:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The minority party should not be degraded into a ankle-biting french poodle bunch of wimps. Instead of attacking only their political enemies, how about getting on board with the US war on terrorism and offering their own positive input. Then maybe thy could win an election every once in a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The minority party should not be degraded into a ankle-biting french poodle bunch of wimps. Instead of attacking only their political enemies, how about getting on board with the US war on terrorism and offering their own positive input. Then maybe thy could win an election every once in a while.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 20:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diamond:

I am an independent and am not looking for a pissing contest. I asked Mr. Moran to define the role of the minority party in the United States at this time, whether minority rights are of any significance, if a two party system is still relevant, and exactly how the minority party in a two party system is supposed to legitimately impact the political process. Nothing in your response answers these questions. A thoughtful response is still welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diamond:</p>
<p>I am an independent and am not looking for a pissing contest. I asked Mr. Moran to define the role of the minority party in the United States at this time, whether minority rights are of any significance, if a two party system is still relevant, and exactly how the minority party in a two party system is supposed to legitimately impact the political process. Nothing in your response answers these questions. A thoughtful response is still welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: diamond</title>
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		<dc:creator>diamond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 18:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ed:  Let me see if I may inform you of the fact that this week  the Republicans informed the Democraps that Phase Two should be completed sometime next week. The bi-partisan committee has been working on this subject, possibly Harry Reid chose not to believe the information they were given as to the completion of the phase.  D'ya think?  Probably not.  But  if you chose to believe that the Phase Two committee was ready to release report why would Reid do what he did yesterday.  Oh, and FYI the 6 people group that was agreed to, in the shut down meeting, do you know what they were assigned to do?  Just in case you don't know that either, I'll tell you.  They are assigned to go look and see how the Phase Two committee is doing their work and can they expect a final report soon!  A FINAL REPORT SOON!    Now before  you say I'm full of it, go and check this out for yourself.  Other wise, type on more misinformation and prove that you Democraps are  still STUCK ON STUPID.

Now before I forget your question, the manority is expected, among other things, to act with proper decorm instead of deceitful efforts to confuse the easily confused.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ed:  Let me see if I may inform you of the fact that this week  the Republicans informed the Democraps that Phase Two should be completed sometime next week. The bi-partisan committee has been working on this subject, possibly Harry Reid chose not to believe the information they were given as to the completion of the phase.  D&#8217;ya think?  Probably not.  But  if you chose to believe that the Phase Two committee was ready to release report why would Reid do what he did yesterday.  Oh, and FYI the 6 people group that was agreed to, in the shut down meeting, do you know what they were assigned to do?  Just in case you don&#8217;t know that either, I&#8217;ll tell you.  They are assigned to go look and see how the Phase Two committee is doing their work and can they expect a final report soon!  A FINAL REPORT SOON!    Now before  you say I&#8217;m full of it, go and check this out for yourself.  Other wise, type on more misinformation and prove that you Democraps are  still STUCK ON STUPID.</p>
<p>Now before I forget your question, the manority is expected, among other things, to act with proper decorm instead of deceitful efforts to confuse the easily confused.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 16:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick Moran is a very thoughtful and articulate conservative with a blog; a rare bird, indeed. Just out of curiosity, sir, what do you see as the role (if any)of an opposition party in our republic? Is protection of minority (in this context, number of voters, not ethnicity) interests of any value? If it still has value, how should it be expressed politically by members of the minority party?

Perhaps I am wrong, but the general impression left by Republican politicians is that since they are in majority control of the administrative and legislative branches of the federal government, Democrats should sit down, shut up and stay the hell out of the way. Are their any legitimate tools for a minority party to use? If so, what are they? (Apparently using the actual rules of the Senate is not legitimate.) If there are no legitimate roles or tools for a minority party to influence political decisions, the logical conclusion is that a two party system of government is no longer viable. Your response, please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick Moran is a very thoughtful and articulate conservative with a blog; a rare bird, indeed. Just out of curiosity, sir, what do you see as the role (if any)of an opposition party in our republic? Is protection of minority (in this context, number of voters, not ethnicity) interests of any value? If it still has value, how should it be expressed politically by members of the minority party?</p>
<p>Perhaps I am wrong, but the general impression left by Republican politicians is that since they are in majority control of the administrative and legislative branches of the federal government, Democrats should sit down, shut up and stay the hell out of the way. Are their any legitimate tools for a minority party to use? If so, what are they? (Apparently using the actual rules of the Senate is not legitimate.) If there are no legitimate roles or tools for a minority party to influence political decisions, the logical conclusion is that a two party system of government is no longer viable. Your response, please.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Franklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 06:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It wasn't just lame, it was nonsensical. I mean, I am still trying to figure out if it was some bit of genius I just didn't see at first. NO! It was just absolutely stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wasn&#8217;t just lame, it was nonsensical. I mean, I am still trying to figure out if it was some bit of genius I just didn&#8217;t see at first. NO! It was just absolutely stupid.</p>
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