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		<title>By: forest hunter</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2005/11/09/whats-a-president-to-do/comment-page-1/#comment-94490</link>
		<dc:creator>forest hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2005 10:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the stumbling fools who choose to whine non-stop re:THE ONGOING WAR. It's ongoing, so shut up!

As a marine Viet Nam Era veteran, I can say that I've seen this kind of handiwork before by ignorant and foolish types claiming to have the nations best interests at heart.

If you support US troops and America, as so many born and bred into lip service espouse to, then shut up!! You're not helping Americans, you're aiding and abetting the enemy! I know you don't get it but it's not your fault. You're stupid, so you have an excuse. We don't expect you to get it, due to your condition, shall we say. Let me try to make a point based on my real life circumstance and provide an analogy.

I was working in norhtern Alaska one early spring day. We were taking down the scaffold from beneath a ship loader that we rebuilt. Break up is coming soon and the sea ice is getting thinner. We had been using a snow machine and sled to ferry the scaffold parts to the shoreline all day and at days end I climbed down the fifty plus feet ladder to the ice in order to check my crab pot. Rather than climb back up into the superstructure, I decided to walk across the approximate 200-300' of ice to shore. As I neared the tracks of where the snow machine had been running all day, I could see blue ice in the track. Now unless your a winged creature, this is cause for concern. I kept moving at an oblique angle away from the tracks and simultaneously removed my spud wrench from my side pocket, while looking over my shoulder at my own tracks. Blue as the sky, they were. With wrench in hand, I began to pitch forward and assume a bear crawl position for the remaining 100' or so, in order to distribute my weight on all fours. As I did this, the ice gave way and I invented an Olympic event. The human ice rototiller may not catch on in your neighborhoood for obvious reasons, but I never once that I was destined to be crab food. If I played golf, I wouldn't know how to handicap the weight of several layers of winter gear and water filled boots for this chilling event. I remember looking at the shore line, watching my former friends (note to self-get smarter friends) hopping back and forth with a fifty foot coil of 2" rubber airline, like flies on a gut pile. Even if I was within range, the spring they think they will throw will whip back and smack the throwee and when I get to shore, I'll have to drive him to the main camp for stitches in a month or so when his face thaws out enough to bleed. I'm damn near laughing at the panic and indecisiveness...sure glad they like me! 

The main point is this...if I stop to inspect my tracks...if I don't have a spud wrench...if I stop and calculate the 12-16 knot current into which gravity draws me down...if I wait for someone else to bla bla bla...If you choose to second guess and waste time, people and money airing any criticisms good or bad, blue ice has a name and place for you. And on your way to become crab food, reality will have a new meaning for those of you who choose nothing. 

We must keep moving or fail! Semper Fi and God Bless you President Bush, good people in every nation and especially all loyal Americans past,present and future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the stumbling fools who choose to whine non-stop re:THE ONGOING WAR. It&#8217;s ongoing, so shut up!</p>
<p>As a marine Viet Nam Era veteran, I can say that I&#8217;ve seen this kind of handiwork before by ignorant and foolish types claiming to have the nations best interests at heart.</p>
<p>If you support US troops and America, as so many born and bred into lip service espouse to, then shut up!! You&#8217;re not helping Americans, you&#8217;re aiding and abetting the enemy! I know you don&#8217;t get it but it&#8217;s not your fault. You&#8217;re stupid, so you have an excuse. We don&#8217;t expect you to get it, due to your condition, shall we say. Let me try to make a point based on my real life circumstance and provide an analogy.</p>
<p>I was working in norhtern Alaska one early spring day. We were taking down the scaffold from beneath a ship loader that we rebuilt. Break up is coming soon and the sea ice is getting thinner. We had been using a snow machine and sled to ferry the scaffold parts to the shoreline all day and at days end I climbed down the fifty plus feet ladder to the ice in order to check my crab pot. Rather than climb back up into the superstructure, I decided to walk across the approximate 200-300&#8242; of ice to shore. As I neared the tracks of where the snow machine had been running all day, I could see blue ice in the track. Now unless your a winged creature, this is cause for concern. I kept moving at an oblique angle away from the tracks and simultaneously removed my spud wrench from my side pocket, while looking over my shoulder at my own tracks. Blue as the sky, they were. With wrench in hand, I began to pitch forward and assume a bear crawl position for the remaining 100&#8242; or so, in order to distribute my weight on all fours. As I did this, the ice gave way and I invented an Olympic event. The human ice rototiller may not catch on in your neighborhoood for obvious reasons, but I never once that I was destined to be crab food. If I played golf, I wouldn&#8217;t know how to handicap the weight of several layers of winter gear and water filled boots for this chilling event. I remember looking at the shore line, watching my former friends (note to self-get smarter friends) hopping back and forth with a fifty foot coil of 2&#8243; rubber airline, like flies on a gut pile. Even if I was within range, the spring they think they will throw will whip back and smack the throwee and when I get to shore, I&#8217;ll have to drive him to the main camp for stitches in a month or so when his face thaws out enough to bleed. I&#8217;m damn near laughing at the panic and indecisiveness&#8230;sure glad they like me! </p>
<p>The main point is this&#8230;if I stop to inspect my tracks&#8230;if I don&#8217;t have a spud wrench&#8230;if I stop and calculate the 12-16 knot current into which gravity draws me down&#8230;if I wait for someone else to bla bla bla&#8230;If you choose to second guess and waste time, people and money airing any criticisms good or bad, blue ice has a name and place for you. And on your way to become crab food, reality will have a new meaning for those of you who choose nothing. </p>
<p>We must keep moving or fail! Semper Fi and God Bless you President Bush, good people in every nation and especially all loyal Americans past,present and future.</p>
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		<title>By: William Clement</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Clement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 00:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What worries me, is a dem pres and congress in '08. I can just see a bunch of "war is never the answer" tree huggers in charge. Those that live in fantasy land are the ones who will be the downfall of the U.S.
They don't see that these terrorist groups want to spread Islam across the whole earth and make it one big Caliphate. There is no tolerance in what the terrorists believe, yet, the liberal "give peace a chance" crowd can't see this, even as obvious as it is. Appeasement does not work. Just ask Neville Chaimberlain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What worries me, is a dem pres and congress in &#8216;08. I can just see a bunch of &#8220;war is never the answer&#8221; tree huggers in charge. Those that live in fantasy land are the ones who will be the downfall of the U.S.<br />
They don&#8217;t see that these terrorist groups want to spread Islam across the whole earth and make it one big Caliphate. There is no tolerance in what the terrorists believe, yet, the liberal &#8220;give peace a chance&#8221; crowd can&#8217;t see this, even as obvious as it is. Appeasement does not work. Just ask Neville Chaimberlain.</p>
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		<title>By: D Winslow</title>
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		<dc:creator>D Winslow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 12:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great posting and well thought out. Super use of deductive reasoning.
One question. What if the leak of information is coming with the help of a Senator with access to highly sensitive information via his or her role on a particular committee?...

As for BBoot-Obviosly NO understanding of LEADERSHIP!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great posting and well thought out. Super use of deductive reasoning.<br />
One question. What if the leak of information is coming with the help of a Senator with access to highly sensitive information via his or her role on a particular committee?&#8230;</p>
<p>As for BBoot-Obviosly NO understanding of LEADERSHIP!</p>
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		<title>By: spk</title>
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		<dc:creator>spk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 05:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what do you say to the throngs of former israeli solidiers who have disavowed torture as useless and which provides only bunk intelligence? how many orange terror warnings have we had right up to the election last fall? 

lets hope some day some of the solidiers over there fighting your war while you clownies sit on your asses and cheer on the president who is bankrupting this country in so many ways ... don't end up getting the treatment you so easily endorse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what do you say to the throngs of former israeli solidiers who have disavowed torture as useless and which provides only bunk intelligence? how many orange terror warnings have we had right up to the election last fall? </p>
<p>lets hope some day some of the solidiers over there fighting your war while you clownies sit on your asses and cheer on the president who is bankrupting this country in so many ways &#8230; don&#8217;t end up getting the treatment you so easily endorse.</p>
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		<title>By: clarice</title>
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		<dc:creator>clarice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 04:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another winner, Rick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another winner, Rick.</p>
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		<title>By: gumshoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>gumshoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hezbollah would account for the 
Shi'ite bad-guy(terrorist) roster,
run out of Tehran,and busy in parts of
Lebanon and Syria.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hezbollah would account for the<br />
Shi&#8217;ite bad-guy(terrorist) roster,<br />
run out of Tehran,and busy in parts of<br />
Lebanon and Syria.</p>
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		<title>By: gumshoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>gumshoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 21:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what Morgan Collins just said,Rick.

AQ is Muslim Brotherhood(Egypt)/Wahhabi
(Saudi Arabia) related.

Shi'ism is found primarily 
in Southern Iraq and Iran.

OBL's ideology is mainly Muslim Brotherhood and Wahhabi-derived.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what Morgan Collins just said,Rick.</p>
<p>AQ is Muslim Brotherhood(Egypt)/Wahhabi<br />
(Saudi Arabia) related.</p>
<p>Shi&#8217;ism is found primarily<br />
in Southern Iraq and Iran.</p>
<p>OBL&#8217;s ideology is mainly Muslim Brotherhood and Wahhabi-derived.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan Collins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 19:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, a good post, but in para 8 you referred to the "radical Shi'ites in al Qaeda".  AQ is radical, all right, but Sunni.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, a good post, but in para 8 you referred to the &#8220;radical Shi&#8217;ites in al Qaeda&#8221;.  AQ is radical, all right, but Sunni.</p>
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		<title>By: BBoot</title>
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		<dc:creator>BBoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 16:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pardon me, but the argument you have produced is essentially one for dictatorial power in the executive, and for systematic rejection of any form of institutional knowledge or wisdom. Perhaps you do not see the similarities for your own reasons but these are the qualities that led to disaster in 1930's Germany, Italy and Japan and other points East and West. 
It seems to me that you all are driven by two unfounded fears: one that there is a threat you cannot deal with which requires a scorched earth policy against a class of people, and two that the government itself is untrustworthy and must be specifically neutralized by what ever means available including deception and lying.
This just does not seem to make any kind of sense and leads without fail into conditions from which we cannot extricate ourselves since the simple trust that holds us together is intentionally destroyed. 
Norquist, of course, has been making this self-serving argument for years while collecting large fees from foreign governments for access to Republican policy makers. 
I cannot help but wonder why you are so willing to forgo your own judgment and trust a man, Bush, who has no experience in the world or in national government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pardon me, but the argument you have produced is essentially one for dictatorial power in the executive, and for systematic rejection of any form of institutional knowledge or wisdom. Perhaps you do not see the similarities for your own reasons but these are the qualities that led to disaster in 1930&#8217;s Germany, Italy and Japan and other points East and West.<br />
It seems to me that you all are driven by two unfounded fears: one that there is a threat you cannot deal with which requires a scorched earth policy against a class of people, and two that the government itself is untrustworthy and must be specifically neutralized by what ever means available including deception and lying.<br />
This just does not seem to make any kind of sense and leads without fail into conditions from which we cannot extricate ourselves since the simple trust that holds us together is intentionally destroyed.<br />
Norquist, of course, has been making this self-serving argument for years while collecting large fees from foreign governments for access to Republican policy makers.<br />
I cannot help but wonder why you are so willing to forgo your own judgment and trust a man, Bush, who has no experience in the world or in national government.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveG</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 15:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Superb posting!

So there were no stockpiles?  Who cares???  I don't have stockpiles of peanuts in my house, but with the money I have I can damned sure get them when I need/want them.  

It should never have been a question of what Iraq had, it clearly should have been a question of what Iraq could make/get.  And as you point out, the risks of being wrong on that count were, and still are, far too high to sit back and hope for the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Superb posting!</p>
<p>So there were no stockpiles?  Who cares???  I don&#8217;t have stockpiles of peanuts in my house, but with the money I have I can damned sure get them when I need/want them.  </p>
<p>It should never have been a question of what Iraq had, it clearly should have been a question of what Iraq could make/get.  And as you point out, the risks of being wrong on that count were, and still are, far too high to sit back and hope for the best.</p>
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