Comments on: THE DEATH OF FRANCE?

By: docdave

docdave — Mon, 14 Nov 2005 02:01:11 +0000

“until they swallow up france.”
reliapundit, I think that they the Muslims have already swallowed France to some extent. If anything the riots and the French government capitulation demonstrated that muslims are already in control of France. If this is true, it will not be long before sharia becomes the law of the land.

By: reliapundit

reliapundit — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 02:29:49 +0000

Rick,
you wrote:

“The remarkable fact that to date so few have been killed or injured is I think indicative of both the reluctance of French police to enforce the law but also an attitude on the part of rioters which reveals that whatever their beef with French society, they are not going to engage in wholesale slaughter to try and change it.”

That’s why bloggers like me called it an intifada, and not war. like the pali intifada, the perps use low grade weapons, mostly. the attacks are pernicious and meant to wear down those under attack and yet NOT make the perps seem like “big baddies.” REMEMBER THE pro-pali REFRAIN: “hey they’re just kids with stones, and the IDF has GUNS!” And the claim that the intifada in the west bak was SPONATNBEOUS was propaganda too.

it seems in this case you’ve bought it hgook line and sinker.

though you ahve the good sense to quote ed m:

As Ed Morrisey points out, the eventual outcome of these riots may be more autonomy for the so-called â€œsink estates.â€

That’s the start. it’s pernicious.

if it is allowed to grow, itn will get worse, until they swallow up france.

it’s their goal.

By: William Clement

William Clement — Sat, 12 Nov 2005 00:18:03 +0000

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By: Apollyon

Apollyon — Fri, 11 Nov 2005 17:03:44 +0000

Actually Rick, the author was correct in claiming “largest” battle. My mistake; I mistook it for him implying that Verdun was the bloodiest.

By: Apollyon

Apollyon — Fri, 11 Nov 2005 16:56:55 +0000

Rick, I know you didn’t make the claim but rather the author you cited. In the Battle of Stalingrad there were about 1.6 million killed between the Soviets and the nazi rats. As far as largest battle, Verdun very well may have been that battle. I just wanted to point out that the bloodiest battle in human history was Stalingrad, and is almost without exception acknowledged as such.

Once again, excellent article Rick.

By: Rick Moran

Rick Moran — Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:02:01 +0000

Appolyon:

Although not on the post, my cite for the “largest battle” quote is Stokesbury “A Short History of World War I.”

While you are correct about casualties at Stalingrad, the fact is that more than 5.5 million French soldiers fought at Verdun during the 11 month battle as well as nearly 4 million Germans. Those numbers dwarf the combined armies of Generals Paulus and Chuikov by several million.

I suppose it depends on what you mean by “largest.”

By: Apollyon

Apollyon — Fri, 11 Nov 2005 06:14:07 +0000

Excellent stuff. I havenâ€™t read much about al-Qaedaâ€™s hand in this but I wouldnâ€™t be the least surprised. I completely agree on your analysis of France. Here is my take on the islamofascist influence. The madrasâ€™s all over France that are preaching death to the very host country offering these dregs the welfare and freedoms to kill them with will bring France to its knees. These little ayatollahs running rampant throwing molotovâ€™s have been listening to calls for jihad since they were little paristinians. They are a barbaric culture. Look at what was recently done to three Catholic YOUNG GIRLS walking to class in Indonesia; a couple of filthy primitive Mohammedan throat cutters attacked the girls and decapitated them. These islamists have tasted the French response to their intifada, and they have won. The absolutely cowardly response of the French and Chirac The Gutlessâ„¢ has emboldened the fire starters and they have begun shooting at cops, beating women police officers nearly to death, POURED GASOLINE ON AN ELDERLY WOMEN AND SET HER ABLAZE ALIVE!!!….They stop busses, force the occupants off, and torch the bus. Anarchy is at the muslims whim now. This was the first salvo, the next will be worse. France has shown it is unwilling to save itself. Capitulation is not self preservation. I would have shot anyone rioters or Molotov throwers immediately. I say about 200 dead little jihadis and that should restore order. If not, 200 more. And so onâ€¦.

Robert Graves: â€œVerdun was by far and away the largest battle in human history.â€â€¦â€¦The battle of Verdun doesnâ€™t even come close to the bloodiest battle in human history. Stalingrad holds the bloody title. How R. Graves could be so off is surprising considering there were approx 750,000 killed at Verdun while Stalingrad had approx 1.6 million killed. And the Russians would do it again if Bastards of Humanityâ„¢ marched upon the gates of Moscow. Russia has not been infected by the liberal quisling disease, yet, and as a Russian immigrant I donâ€™t think it could ever happen. Just ask the Chechen islamist throat cutters.

By: NIF

NIF — Thu, 10 Nov 2005 23:46:57 +0000

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By: ed

ed — Thu, 10 Nov 2005 20:12:50 +0000

RA, despite your proving my point about the denigration of each other’s positions, I’ll answer your challenge. The fact that the degradation of slavery and exploitation of child laborers no longer legally exist in the United States are beneficial gifts from liberal thinking and actions. The practice and benefits of a free public education (a literate, educated general populace) enabled our dominance in the Industrial Revolution and the economic benefits so derived and still useful in the post-Industrial age. Another liberal idea of great benefit to America.
Since you challenged me, I’ll challenge you. Let’s you and I buck the downward spiral of political dialogue in the United States. Acknowledge these facts as liberal benefits to America. You can still be a good conservative. We can disagree strongly without hate and denigration. I can disagree with you without labeling everything you think as evil and false. I found good within conservative ideas. Can you reciprocate?

By: RA

RA — Thu, 10 Nov 2005 18:39:10 +0000

There is no “good” in liberal positions. Everything they stand for hurts America. Name any major liberal positions that helps America.

Islamofascism is a defining force in these riots. Notice that many of the urban terrorists who rioted in America have turned to radical islam (Ferricon). It is clear for those who embrace the redneck culture in the US (Jessy Jacksson, Al Sharpton followers) meld easily to our own islamofascists).

It is an ideology of hate and murder which justify these sorts of behaviors.