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	<description>Politics served up with a smile... And a stilletto.</description>
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		<title>By: Sapper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sapper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 02:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"avoid [embarrassing] countries", I meant.

(see above)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;avoid [embarrassing] countries&#8221;, I meant.</p>
<p>(see above)</p>
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		<title>By: Sapper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sapper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 02:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can only speculate that the Administration wants to avoid countries and national leaders we may need cooperation from.....Russia, Pakistan, European nations, etc.

Smells like coverup to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can only speculate that the Administration wants to avoid countries and national leaders we may need cooperation from&#8230;..Russia, Pakistan, European nations, etc.</p>
<p>Smells like coverup to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Right Wing Nut House &#187; CARNIVAL OF THE CLUELESS #22:  Politics served up with a smile&#8230; And a stilletto.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Right Wing Nut House &#187; CARNIVAL OF THE CLUELESS #22:  Politics served up with a smile&#8230; And a stilletto.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2005 15:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] LESS #22DEMS WANT TO TRASH THE WAR WITHOUT GOING ON RECORD OPPOSING ITTHE NADIR OF THE WAR? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] LESS #22DEMS WANT TO TRASH THE WAR WITHOUT GOING ON RECORD OPPOSING ITTHE NADIR OF THE WAR? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SoCalPundit &#187; Botching The Search For Evidence In Iraq</title>
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		<dc:creator>SoCalPundit &#187; Botching The Search For Evidence In Iraq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2005 04:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 2. But that hardly proves they had nothing in the way of WMD. 	Read this incredible expose here.                   [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 2. But that hardly proves they had nothing in the way of WMD. 	Read this incredible expose here.            </p>
<p>  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2005 00:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are many reason why the Government is preventing these documents from coming to light.  The biggest, in my view, is a combination of classic beaurocratic CYA combined with a desire to prevent even more debate on the origins of the war.  The military has a pertinent acronym: OBE (Overtake By Events).  Now that the war is on, spending valuable political resources rehashing the cause is counterproductive.  It can wait until the war is won or lost.  In the same way, you never hear football commentators rehash the effects of 1st quarter turnovers in the 3rd quarter, but they are always examined as factors once the game is won or lost.

As far as the weapons themselves, it's possible they were moved to Syria, but I consider this unlikely.  Chemical and Biological weapons are easy and relatively cheap to manufacture provided you have the scientific expertise.  Many have short shelf-lives and require special facilities to house.  It seems much more logical to me that they were destroyed at some point prior to hostilities with the intent to reestablish the capability at a later date.  Certainly there is direct evidence of this with respect to Iraq's nuclear capability.  Hopefully you remember the Iraqi nuclear scientist who had elements of a calutron buried in his backyard.  He was instructed to hide the parts so they could be used as templates to create more at a later date.  This direct personal evidence, coupled with documentary evidence, has pretty decisively shown that Iraq did shut down it's nuclear program with intent to covertly restart it once sanctions and inspectors were gone.

I just don't see any advantage to shipping the weapons to Syria.  Syria, with its own robust programs, certainly doesn't need them.  There is great political risk for Syria to accept the weapons for little to no benefit for them.  And, as I mention above, the capability to reconstitute remains, as long as Saddam could hold on to the experts involved and survive the war.

However, despite all logic, it's possible the weapons were transferred to Syria.  Certainly many in the Intelligence community believe that is what happened, though I believe they were not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many reason why the Government is preventing these documents from coming to light.  The biggest, in my view, is a combination of classic beaurocratic CYA combined with a desire to prevent even more debate on the origins of the war.  The military has a pertinent acronym: OBE (Overtake By Events).  Now that the war is on, spending valuable political resources rehashing the cause is counterproductive.  It can wait until the war is won or lost.  In the same way, you never hear football commentators rehash the effects of 1st quarter turnovers in the 3rd quarter, but they are always examined as factors once the game is won or lost.</p>
<p>As far as the weapons themselves, it&#8217;s possible they were moved to Syria, but I consider this unlikely.  Chemical and Biological weapons are easy and relatively cheap to manufacture provided you have the scientific expertise.  Many have short shelf-lives and require special facilities to house.  It seems much more logical to me that they were destroyed at some point prior to hostilities with the intent to reestablish the capability at a later date.  Certainly there is direct evidence of this with respect to Iraq&#8217;s nuclear capability.  Hopefully you remember the Iraqi nuclear scientist who had elements of a calutron buried in his backyard.  He was instructed to hide the parts so they could be used as templates to create more at a later date.  This direct personal evidence, coupled with documentary evidence, has pretty decisively shown that Iraq did shut down it&#8217;s nuclear program with intent to covertly restart it once sanctions and inspectors were gone.</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t see any advantage to shipping the weapons to Syria.  Syria, with its own robust programs, certainly doesn&#8217;t need them.  There is great political risk for Syria to accept the weapons for little to no benefit for them.  And, as I mention above, the capability to reconstitute remains, as long as Saddam could hold on to the experts involved and survive the war.</p>
<p>However, despite all logic, it&#8217;s possible the weapons were transferred to Syria.  Certainly many in the Intelligence community believe that is what happened, though I believe they were not.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Robison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Robison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 22:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have only read the first paragraph about the Indiana Jones analysis and am jumping off my seat. I have been trying to tell people this without going into the specifics of classified information. Keep looking....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have only read the first paragraph about the Indiana Jones analysis and am jumping off my seat. I have been trying to tell people this without going into the specifics of classified information. Keep looking&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentConAgainstStephenHayes</title>
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		<dc:creator>IndependentConAgainstStephenHayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 22:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen Hayes, I am afraid, is a notoriously unreliable source.

Much of his writing in the past concerning Iraq/Al-Qaeda connection was discredited. In fact, that very memo that he used was called, by the Department of Defense, "not an analysis of the substantive issue of the relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda, and it drew no conclusions." Please do not harm the conservative movement by citing unreliable sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen Hayes, I am afraid, is a notoriously unreliable source.</p>
<p>Much of his writing in the past concerning Iraq/Al-Qaeda connection was discredited. In fact, that very memo that he used was called, by the Department of Defense, &#8220;not an analysis of the substantive issue of the relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda, and it drew no conclusions.&#8221; Please do not harm the conservative movement by citing unreliable sources.</p>
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		<title>By: B.Poster</title>
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		<dc:creator>B.Poster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 20:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm glad you are considering the possibility that Saddam's WMD may have been moved to Syria or elsewhere.  It is neither a pro-Bush nor an anti-Bush argument to question the conventional wisdom regarding Saddam's WMD, the conventional wisdom being that Saddam destroyed his WMD after the Gulf War.  

Perhaps the Bush administration and the military commanders in Iraq do not want to address this issue because if the WMD were moved and they failed to stop it this could call into question their competence as leaders.  Clearly Bush did not lie about Saddam's WMD.  Perhaps they decided early on that they would allow the Democrats to make this an issue about the Administration's integrity because it draws attention away from the competence issue.  I certainly hope they are not thinking this way and did not think this way but I think it possible.  

Finding out what happened to the former Iraqi regime's WMD is a matter of national security for us and our allies.  In this investigation, no stone should be left unturned and we should consider the possibility that the former regime's WMD were moved to Syria or elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you are considering the possibility that Saddam&#8217;s WMD may have been moved to Syria or elsewhere.  It is neither a pro-Bush nor an anti-Bush argument to question the conventional wisdom regarding Saddam&#8217;s WMD, the conventional wisdom being that Saddam destroyed his WMD after the Gulf War.  </p>
<p>Perhaps the Bush administration and the military commanders in Iraq do not want to address this issue because if the WMD were moved and they failed to stop it this could call into question their competence as leaders.  Clearly Bush did not lie about Saddam&#8217;s WMD.  Perhaps they decided early on that they would allow the Democrats to make this an issue about the Administration&#8217;s integrity because it draws attention away from the competence issue.  I certainly hope they are not thinking this way and did not think this way but I think it possible.  </p>
<p>Finding out what happened to the former Iraqi regime&#8217;s WMD is a matter of national security for us and our allies.  In this investigation, no stone should be left unturned and we should consider the possibility that the former regime&#8217;s WMD were moved to Syria or elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Marv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why the government doesnâ€™t invade Iran?
Because it's easier to take on Iran after it's surrounded. Check a map.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why the government doesnâ€™t invade Iran?<br />
Because it&#8217;s easier to take on Iran after it&#8217;s surrounded. Check a map.</p>
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		<title>By: DouglasS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DouglasS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good old Bill Tierney. He's the fellow who appeared on &lt;a href="http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2003/02/14.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Coast to Coast&lt;/a&gt;, a few weeks before the war started: "Bill Tierney... was the guest for the first two hours of Friday night's show. He believes that Iraq has nuclear capability ... Tierney claims that he has pinpointed a hidden location in Iraq where there is a uranium enriching processing facility. 'You can't put an underground chamber on the back of a truck,' Tierney said, indicating that if an inspection were made in this suggested area, the Iraqis would not be able to haul off the evidence. 

Tierney's methods of ascertaining this location were rather unconventional. 'I would ask God and just get a sense if something was valid or not, and then know if I needed to pursue it,' he said. His assessments through prayer were then confirmed to him by a friend's clairvoyant dream, where he was able to find the location on a map. 'Everything she said lined up. This place meets the criteria,' Tierney said of a power generator plant near the Tigris River that he believes is actually a cover for a secret uranium facility."

Of course even without Tierney, Coast to Coast is a somewhat bizarre radio show, &lt;a href="http://www.coasttocoastam.com/george/about.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;covering&lt;/a&gt; "unusual stories in the paranormal and stories that the mainstream media didn't want to touch." Here's one &lt;a href="http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/page1.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;story&lt;/a&gt; currently highlighted on their web site: "Ghosts not as scary as usually portrayed; Real ghosts typically appear in normal, natural form." 

Tierney returned to Coast to Coast on &lt;a href="http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2003/03/27.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;3/27/03&lt;/a&gt;. That night the guest who followed him shared this helpful information: "an internal vibration like that of a jet engine could be the first clue that you are about to have an out-of-body experience." The night of Tierney's first appearance, Coast to Coast featured its &lt;a href="http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2003/02/14.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Reincarnation Line&lt;/a&gt;: "Candace from Redondo Beach told a strange tale of her possible former life as an American Indian."

For some odd reason, the interviewer in the FrontPage article didn't bother to ask Tierney why this "uranium enriching processing facility" that was "hidden underground" has never been found.

By the way, Tierney also apparently discussed this hidden plant with &lt;a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/874353/posts" rel="nofollow"&gt;Hannity&lt;/a&gt;. Tierney said "I can drive there with my eyes shut." Apparently he also said "we will be shocked with what we are going to find in Iraq ... [there is] no doubt we will find huge amounts of what Iraq swears it does not have."

I guess now we know where Bush got his information about tubes and yellowcake. Cheney had a clairvoyant dream.

Anyway, someone should call Duelfer right away and tell him about Tierney's "assessments through prayer." And tell him Candace says hi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good old Bill Tierney. He&#8217;s the fellow who appeared on <a href="http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2003/02/14.html" rel="nofollow">Coast to Coast</a>, a few weeks before the war started: &#8220;Bill Tierney&#8230; was the guest for the first two hours of Friday night&#8217;s show. He believes that Iraq has nuclear capability &#8230; Tierney claims that he has pinpointed a hidden location in Iraq where there is a uranium enriching processing facility. &#8216;You can&#8217;t put an underground chamber on the back of a truck,&#8217; Tierney said, indicating that if an inspection were made in this suggested area, the Iraqis would not be able to haul off the evidence. </p>
<p>Tierney&#8217;s methods of ascertaining this location were rather unconventional. &#8216;I would ask God and just get a sense if something was valid or not, and then know if I needed to pursue it,&#8217; he said. His assessments through prayer were then confirmed to him by a friend&#8217;s clairvoyant dream, where he was able to find the location on a map. &#8216;Everything she said lined up. This place meets the criteria,&#8217; Tierney said of a power generator plant near the Tigris River that he believes is actually a cover for a secret uranium facility.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course even without Tierney, Coast to Coast is a somewhat bizarre radio show, <a href="http://www.coasttocoastam.com/george/about.html" rel="nofollow">covering</a> &#8220;unusual stories in the paranormal and stories that the mainstream media didn&#8217;t want to touch.&#8221; Here&#8217;s one <a href="http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/page1.html" rel="nofollow">story</a> currently highlighted on their web site: &#8220;Ghosts not as scary as usually portrayed; Real ghosts typically appear in normal, natural form.&#8221; </p>
<p>Tierney returned to Coast to Coast on <a href="http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2003/03/27.html" rel="nofollow">3/27/03</a>. That night the guest who followed him shared this helpful information: &#8220;an internal vibration like that of a jet engine could be the first clue that you are about to have an out-of-body experience.&#8221; The night of Tierney&#8217;s first appearance, Coast to Coast featured its <a href="http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2003/02/14.html" rel="nofollow">Reincarnation Line</a>: &#8220;Candace from Redondo Beach told a strange tale of her possible former life as an American Indian.&#8221;</p>
<p>For some odd reason, the interviewer in the FrontPage article didn&#8217;t bother to ask Tierney why this &#8220;uranium enriching processing facility&#8221; that was &#8220;hidden underground&#8221; has never been found.</p>
<p>By the way, Tierney also apparently discussed this hidden plant with <a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/874353/posts" rel="nofollow">Hannity</a>. Tierney said &#8220;I can drive there with my eyes shut.&#8221; Apparently he also said &#8220;we will be shocked with what we are going to find in Iraq &#8230; [there is] no doubt we will find huge amounts of what Iraq swears it does not have.&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess now we know where Bush got his information about tubes and yellowcake. Cheney had a clairvoyant dream.</p>
<p>Anyway, someone should call Duelfer right away and tell him about Tierney&#8217;s &#8220;assessments through prayer.&#8221; And tell him Candace says hi.</p>
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