Comments on: THE NADIR OF THE WAR? http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2005/11/18/the-nadir-of-the-war/ Politics served up with a smile... And a stilletto. Sat, 18 Apr 2026 19:47:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: citizen http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2005/11/18/the-nadir-of-the-war/comment-page-1/#comment-98865 citizen Mon, 21 Nov 2005 02:46:26 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/?p=897#comment-98865 Rick Moran you are wrong and here is why: if everything in print and on tv was directed to calling you a liar, and deliberately lying about you, for six years, you would be low in the "polls" too. Those are not polls, and whatever you heard any of the lying media say about the American spirit is, of course, A LIE. All they do is lie. They do not know how to tell the truth. They do not believe truth exists, outside of what they say it is. The American spirit is strong and good, and doing quite well thank you very much. Too bad you took the word of liars to form your opinion of it. Rick Moran you are wrong and here is why: if everything in print and on tv was directed to calling you a liar, and deliberately lying about you, for six years, you would be low in the “polls” too.

Those are not polls, and whatever you heard any of the lying media say about the American spirit is, of course, A LIE.

All they do is lie. They do not know how to tell the truth. They do not believe truth exists, outside of what they say it is.

The American spirit is strong and good, and doing quite well thank you very much. Too bad you took the word of liars to form your opinion of it.

]]> By: :: Political Musings :: » Spinal Transplant http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2005/11/18/the-nadir-of-the-war/comment-page-1/#comment-98256 :: Political Musings :: » Spinal Transplant Sun, 20 Nov 2005 05:23:07 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/?p=897#comment-98256 [...] past week, the White House had basically abrogated that job since the November elections. Rick Moran explains the consequences of this decision and what can be done [...] [...] past week, the White House had basically abrogated that job since the November elections. Rick Moran explains the consequences of this decision and what can be done [...]

]]> By: Cold Fury http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2005/11/18/the-nadir-of-the-war/comment-page-1/#comment-97952 Cold Fury Sat, 19 Nov 2005 20:04:07 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/?p=897#comment-97952 <strong>Summary of the week’s big story</strong> DEMOCRATS: The war is a quagmire! REPUBLICANS: No it isn’t. DEMOCRATS: The war is unwinnable! REPUBLICANS: No it isn’t. DEMOCRATS: Bush lied to get us into this unnecessary war! REPUBLICANS: No he didn’t. DEMOCRATS: By answering our c... Summary of the week’s big story

DEMOCRATS: The war is a quagmire!
REPUBLICANS: No it isn’t.
DEMOCRATS: The war is unwinnable!
REPUBLICANS: No it isn’t.
DEMOCRATS: Bush lied to get us into this unnecessary war!
REPUBLICANS: No he didn’t.
DEMOCRATS: By answering our c…

]]> By: BBoot http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2005/11/18/the-nadir-of-the-war/comment-page-1/#comment-97666 BBoot Sat, 19 Nov 2005 13:33:11 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/?p=897#comment-97666 Pardon me, but Bush is a liar. Pardon me, but Bush is a liar.

]]> By: Jo macDougal http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2005/11/18/the-nadir-of-the-war/comment-page-1/#comment-97380 Jo macDougal Fri, 18 Nov 2005 21:04:51 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/?p=897#comment-97380 We would not be in this situation if Bush had been honest last year and run as the liberal he in fact is. Of course he would have lost the election. We have a cripple for President because he told us to vote for him because he was conservative when he like his dad is a liberal. Then after the election he runs the government as a liberal and nominiates SCOTUS judges who are not liberal but are also not like Thomas. Another "Read My Lips!" liberal Republican and another failure for America. The problem I have is how was one to know what a liberal Buish is/was? We would not be in this situation if Bush had been honest last year and run as the liberal he in fact is. Of course he would have lost the election. We have a cripple for President because he told us to vote for him because he was conservative when he like his dad is a liberal. Then after the election he runs the government as a liberal and nominiates SCOTUS judges who are not liberal but are also not like Thomas. Another “Read My Lips!” liberal Republican and another failure for America.
The problem I have is how was one to know what a liberal Buish is/was?

]]> By: ed http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2005/11/18/the-nadir-of-the-war/comment-page-1/#comment-97371 ed Fri, 18 Nov 2005 20:44:06 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/?p=897#comment-97371 I certainly admire the strength of faith by the conservatives. Instead of seeing the Iraq War for the monumental mistake is was,is, and will continue to be, when the faithful are handed their ass on a platter, they see a steak dinner. The inability to ever admit mistakes will kill the far right conservative movement's electoral successes. "Liberal" has become the boogyman that "Communist" was in the 50's and 60's. "We are never wrong" is the mantra, and if a Republican makes a undeniable mistake, then, as commenter Mr. Stanton demonstrates, they are not really a conservative, but a LIBERAL, or was unduely influenced by LIBERALS. Overall, voters are not stupid. To never admit error is a form of a lie. Everyone makes mistakes sometimes and everyone knows this to be true from our own experiences. The born-again type of conservatives are bound to be frustrated in American politics, because ultimately, compromise is necessary between competing ideas and factions. This fact will also prevent the warring factions in Iraq from working together as a functional democracy. The Sunnis and the Shites in the Iraq area have been unable to compromise and cooperate for centuries. Thinking that a Constitution and the institutions of democracy put in place will end the hostilities is the ultimate in wishful thinking. And frankly, I would be very happy to be wrong in this assessment. However, history casts a very dark shadow. I certainly admire the strength of faith by the conservatives. Instead of seeing the Iraq War for the monumental mistake is was,is, and will continue to be, when the faithful are handed their ass on a platter, they see a steak dinner.
The inability to ever admit mistakes will kill the far right conservative movement’s electoral successes. “Liberal” has become the boogyman that “Communist” was in the 50’s and 60’s. “We are never wrong” is the mantra, and if a Republican makes a undeniable mistake, then, as commenter Mr. Stanton demonstrates, they are not really a conservative, but a LIBERAL, or was unduely influenced by LIBERALS. Overall, voters are not stupid. To never admit error is a form of a lie. Everyone makes mistakes sometimes and everyone knows this to be true from our own experiences.
The born-again type of conservatives are bound to be frustrated in American politics, because ultimately, compromise is necessary between competing ideas and factions. This fact will also prevent the warring factions in Iraq from working together as a functional democracy. The Sunnis and the Shites in the Iraq area have been unable to compromise and cooperate for centuries. Thinking that a Constitution and the institutions of democracy put in place will end the hostilities is the ultimate in wishful thinking. And frankly, I would be very happy to be wrong in this assessment. However, history casts a very dark shadow.

]]> By: Rodney A Stanton http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2005/11/18/the-nadir-of-the-war/comment-page-1/#comment-97329 Rodney A Stanton Fri, 18 Nov 2005 20:07:38 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/?p=897#comment-97329 The problem was in part created by the President himself. He spent much of Mar to Oct “barnstorming the country” . But he was attacking conservatives. He furthered his attacks on the conservatives by nominating 2 NONconservatives to SCOUS. His actions have angered the people who 13 months ago were his strongest supporters. It is no accident that his approval rating dropped 10% the week after the Roberts nomination. http://www.usatoday.com/news/polls/2005-10-31-nov-poll.htm The decline has continued for 4 more months, albeit at a much slower rate. Bush has mad the same disastrous mistake his father made. He has thrown his lot with the liberals. And the liberals have not supported him; just like they did not support his father. Liberals will never get behind a Republican. But conservatives will leave Republicans just like we left the Democrats 40 years ago. Besides mys self (who you never herd of) a well know conservative who left the Democratic Party was a Californian named Ronnie Reagan. Had Bush spent his energy attacking the MSM/DNC from Mar to Oct; instead of attacking conservatives his ratingw would be much higher and the MSM/DNC bush lied campaign would never have got traction. To America’s detriment Bush tried to crush conservatives. He failed and he is failing as a President because he has become a liberal. The problem was in part created by the President himself. He spent much of Mar to Oct “barnstorming the country” . But he was attacking conservatives. He furthered his attacks on the conservatives by nominating 2 NONconservatives to SCOUS. His actions have angered the people who 13 months ago were his strongest supporters. It is no accident that his approval rating dropped 10% the week after the Roberts nomination.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/polls/2005-10-31-nov-poll.htm
The decline has continued for 4 more months, albeit at a much slower rate.

Bush has mad the same disastrous mistake his father made. He has thrown his lot with the liberals. And the liberals have not supported him; just like they did not support his father. Liberals will never get behind a Republican. But conservatives will leave Republicans just like we left the Democrats 40 years ago. Besides mys self (who you never herd of) a well know conservative who left the Democratic Party was a Californian named Ronnie Reagan.

Had Bush spent his energy attacking the MSM/DNC from Mar to Oct; instead of attacking conservatives his ratingw would be much higher and the MSM/DNC bush lied campaign would never have got traction. To America’s detriment Bush tried to crush conservatives. He failed and he is failing as a President because he has become a liberal.

]]> By: Duane http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2005/11/18/the-nadir-of-the-war/comment-page-1/#comment-97197 Duane Fri, 18 Nov 2005 14:40:43 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/?p=897#comment-97197 I strongly respect Murtha's past active duty service. But don't get confused into buying his "hawk" credentials in Congress. For a very long time, Murtha was the head of the House Appropriations Committee Defense Subcommittee. That is the plum pork assignment in the entire Congress- you are the one dictator (under pre-1994 Dem rules) in charge of the place all spending Bills originate for the largest pot of discretionary spending, bar none. Murtha used that throne with a vengeance and a check-writing pen for hometown Johnstown, Pennsylvania and other favored buddies' districts that rivalled only Sen. Klan's West Virginia bacon warehouse. that explains why money better spent on things such as, you know, soldiers and bullets, Army and Marine stuff, ended up funding the National Center of Excellence in Metalworking Technology, a classic jobs earmark for an out-of-the-way town (Johnstown) lacking any reason for its selection. When the Clinton illusory "peace dividend" struck, Mr. Murtha was in hog heaven diverting cash to every non-military purpose he could find under the rubric of soft "defense" (strengthen the rust belt union economy and you make America strong, blah blah). The Republican Congress takeover has revealed its own flaws (which can only be resolved by some sunset and TABOR reforms including term limits), but at least it dethroned this kind of kingpin. And redistricting finished the job, so now Murtha has to sound more like Ramsey Clark than Wesley Clark. Assuming there is a difference between those two, that is. I strongly respect Murtha’s past active duty service. But don’t get confused into buying his “hawk” credentials in Congress.

For a very long time, Murtha was the head of the House Appropriations Committee Defense Subcommittee. That is the plum pork assignment in the entire Congress- you are the one dictator (under pre-1994 Dem rules) in charge of the place all spending Bills originate for the largest pot of discretionary spending, bar none.

Murtha used that throne with a vengeance and a check-writing pen for hometown Johnstown, Pennsylvania and other favored buddies’ districts that rivalled only Sen. Klan’s West Virginia bacon warehouse. that explains why money better spent on things such as, you know, soldiers and bullets, Army and Marine stuff, ended up funding the National Center of Excellence in Metalworking Technology, a classic jobs earmark for an out-of-the-way town (Johnstown) lacking any reason for its selection.

When the Clinton illusory “peace dividend” struck, Mr. Murtha was in hog heaven diverting cash to every non-military purpose he could find under the rubric of soft “defense” (strengthen the rust belt union economy and you make America strong, blah blah). The Republican Congress takeover has revealed its own flaws (which can only be resolved by some sunset and TABOR reforms including term limits), but at least it dethroned this kind of kingpin. And redistricting finished the job, so now Murtha has to sound more like Ramsey Clark than Wesley Clark. Assuming there is a difference between those two, that is.

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