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		<title>By: Right Wing Nut House &#187; THE COMING SCHISM</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2005/11/28/another-perplexing-bush-appointment/comment-page-1/#comment-391181</link>
		<dc:creator>Right Wing Nut House &#187; THE COMING SCHISM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 17:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] To be sure, this is the rub between libertarians and social conservatives. The prominence with which George Bush has featured Christian conservatives in his nominations to fill important posts (too many to list but Paul Bocelli to head USAID is one I wrote about here) as well as virtually turning over parts of the State Department to ideologically driven religious conservatives who have changed American policy as it relates to family planning, AIDS education, and even some aspects of women&#8217;s rights has grated with libertarians. And the prominence of social conservative issues (some have called them &#8220;wedge&#8221; issues) has also worried the libertarians who seek a broader agenda in order to attract more independents and moderates. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] To be sure, this is the rub between libertarians and social conservatives. The prominence with which George Bush has featured Christian conservatives in his nominations to fill important posts (too many to list but Paul Bocelli to head USAID is one I wrote about here) as well as virtually turning over parts of the State Department to ideologically driven religious conservatives who have changed American policy as it relates to family planning, AIDS education, and even some aspects of women&#8217;s rights has grated with libertarians. And the prominence of social conservative issues (some have called them &#8220;wedge&#8221; issues) has also worried the libertarians who seek a broader agenda in order to attract more independents and moderates. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2005/11/28/another-perplexing-bush-appointment/comment-page-1/#comment-104126</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 21:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just going to leave well enough alone, but

Explain to me which approach is more realistic, continuing to supply condoms when that has been tried for a while now and the rates of disease keep growing, or possibly suggesting the only way you can be 100% sure of not getting STDs?  Which is more condenscending, assuming that Africans are unable to understand the concepts of monogamy and restraint, or asking them to think about changing behaviors that increase risk needlessly?  Has the U.N. stopped supplying condoms to Africa?  How does nominating a practicing Christian curtail worldwide programs which have been in place for years?

Heaven forbid that religion motivate altruistic impulses, like the equality of men and women, Greek and Jew, free and slave.  Or the abolition of slavery.  Or the idea that your enemies deserve respect because they are your equal in God's eyes.  Or the idea that you should serve others instead of yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just going to leave well enough alone, but</p>
<p>Explain to me which approach is more realistic, continuing to supply condoms when that has been tried for a while now and the rates of disease keep growing, or possibly suggesting the only way you can be 100% sure of not getting STDs?  Which is more condenscending, assuming that Africans are unable to understand the concepts of monogamy and restraint, or asking them to think about changing behaviors that increase risk needlessly?  Has the U.N. stopped supplying condoms to Africa?  How does nominating a practicing Christian curtail worldwide programs which have been in place for years?</p>
<p>Heaven forbid that religion motivate altruistic impulses, like the equality of men and women, Greek and Jew, free and slave.  Or the abolition of slavery.  Or the idea that your enemies deserve respect because they are your equal in God&#8217;s eyes.  Or the idea that you should serve others instead of yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 02:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PCH is not an accredited college.

WingNut U</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PCH is not an accredited college.</p>
<p>WingNut U</p>
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		<title>By: Timmah420</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2005/11/28/another-perplexing-bush-appointment/comment-page-1/#comment-103804</link>
		<dc:creator>Timmah420</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 21:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok chris, I see you've taken to using the same line over and over, so why don't you tell me why a shift in policy toward Africa, like the one I mentioned earlier concerning abstinance, isn't A} Religiously motivated and B)One of the worst ideas ever concieved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok chris, I see you&#8217;ve taken to using the same line over and over, so why don&#8217;t you tell me why a shift in policy toward Africa, like the one I mentioned earlier concerning abstinance, isn&#8217;t A} Religiously motivated and B)One of the worst ideas ever concieved.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2005/11/28/another-perplexing-bush-appointment/comment-page-1/#comment-103774</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 11:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again I see that if I, as a believer, espouse some doctrine which does not fit with someone else's, then I must be, by definition, some kind of moron.  I'm sure none of the detractors here have ideas which I would think equally silly, and I'm not talking about evolutionary theory.

At least plunge had a somewhat cogent argument related to experience in large-scale management.  Prefaced by dismissal on grounds that the candidate held certain thoughts he found silly, and which are not particularly germane to the post for which he is nominated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again I see that if I, as a believer, espouse some doctrine which does not fit with someone else&#8217;s, then I must be, by definition, some kind of moron.  I&#8217;m sure none of the detractors here have ideas which I would think equally silly, and I&#8217;m not talking about evolutionary theory.</p>
<p>At least plunge had a somewhat cogent argument related to experience in large-scale management.  Prefaced by dismissal on grounds that the candidate held certain thoughts he found silly, and which are not particularly germane to the post for which he is nominated.</p>
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		<title>By: plunge</title>
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		<dc:creator>plunge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 08:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That someone really believes that the world was created 6000 years ago yes, definately does make me question their judgement in all things.  It's like finding out that the head of the department of education thinks that the government can tune into his thoughts and that tinfoil hats can stop their eavesdropping.  It's just totally batty.  Now, perhaps they conduct themselves normally aside from that, in which case it may well be harmless.  But if their logical reasoning can go so badly, horrendously wrong in one instance, I don't think it's wrong to worry that they may be prone to falling off the trolley track on any given other subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That someone really believes that the world was created 6000 years ago yes, definately does make me question their judgement in all things.  It&#8217;s like finding out that the head of the department of education thinks that the government can tune into his thoughts and that tinfoil hats can stop their eavesdropping.  It&#8217;s just totally batty.  Now, perhaps they conduct themselves normally aside from that, in which case it may well be harmless.  But if their logical reasoning can go so badly, horrendously wrong in one instance, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s wrong to worry that they may be prone to falling off the trolley track on any given other subject.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 04:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bonicelli is a &lt;a href="http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0421-09.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt; biblical literalist&lt;/a&gt;.

"And what is Bonicelli's own view? He smiles. 'I am basically persuaded by the young Earth. I believe in six literal days, but I remain open to someone persuading me otherwise.'

But that's neither here nor there.

I'm tolerably familiar with his new job. He's going to be the #3 guy at USAID, which is the major dispenser of US foreign aid and assistance.  It has about 4,000 employees and a budget of around 7.6 billion.  Bonicelli will be running the Democracy and Governance section, which is USAID's biggest component; it has a budget of about $3 billion.

What's disturbing about this appointment isn't the creationism.  That by itself hardly matters.  No, the problem here is that Bonicelli has no relevant experience.  Basically, he's been a House staffer and academic dean at a small Bible college.  Think of it this way: if you were choosing someone to run a $3 billion company in the  private sector, would you accept these as valid qualifications?  

USAID is no small thing.  It's the agency most central to rebuilding US "soft power" around the world.  It's not a trivial job, and we should have good people in charge.

Rich is right: this appointment reeks of political correctness (Republican version) and cronyism.  


Doug M.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bonicelli is a <a href="http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0421-09.htm" rel="nofollow"> biblical literalist</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;And what is Bonicelli&#8217;s own view? He smiles. &#8216;I am basically persuaded by the young Earth. I believe in six literal days, but I remain open to someone persuading me otherwise.&#8217;</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s neither here nor there.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m tolerably familiar with his new job. He&#8217;s going to be the #3 guy at USAID, which is the major dispenser of US foreign aid and assistance.  It has about 4,000 employees and a budget of around 7.6 billion.  Bonicelli will be running the Democracy and Governance section, which is USAID&#8217;s biggest component; it has a budget of about $3 billion.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s disturbing about this appointment isn&#8217;t the creationism.  That by itself hardly matters.  No, the problem here is that Bonicelli has no relevant experience.  Basically, he&#8217;s been a House staffer and academic dean at a small Bible college.  Think of it this way: if you were choosing someone to run a $3 billion company in the  private sector, would you accept these as valid qualifications?  </p>
<p>USAID is no small thing.  It&#8217;s the agency most central to rebuilding US &#8220;soft power&#8221; around the world.  It&#8217;s not a trivial job, and we should have good people in charge.</p>
<p>Rich is right: this appointment reeks of political correctness (Republican version) and cronyism.  </p>
<p>Doug M.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 01:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess religious bigotry does not include dismissing people out of hand based on their profession of faith.  Huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess religious bigotry does not include dismissing people out of hand based on their profession of faith.  Huh.</p>
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		<title>By: Timmah420</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timmah420</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 23:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Er as per my last post, replace racial bigotry with religious bigotry. Typo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er as per my last post, replace racial bigotry with religious bigotry. Typo.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 23:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently we are living in a theocracy.  Who knew?  And here I thought the Jews controlled everything.  Turns out it's the Jesus freaks.

Rich, I am not a Bible scholar, but Proverbs 3:5 is saying that we should look to God for guidance in all things, listening to the inner voice (not in your head!) that will teach what direction to take, which decisions are best suited to keep you on the path to a more fulfilling relationship with God.  To me, this does not mean that God will tell me in excruciating detail how to live my life, but that he will guide me in the path that is in my best interests if I will let Him.  I have free will at all times, and can choose based on my own will and talents whenever I want.  My choices may coincide with God's, but they may not.  Regardless, He will continue to lead me closer to Him.

As far as 2 Corinthians 10:5, Paul was concerned that the Corinthian church was backsliding into pagan rituals (some member was sleeping with his father's wife!), and he was pointing out that the Corinthians needed to get their minds right, so to speak.  He was reminding them to get back to the basics of the gospel he had taught them, and to ignore the false teachings that had been imported into the church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently we are living in a theocracy.  Who knew?  And here I thought the Jews controlled everything.  Turns out it&#8217;s the Jesus freaks.</p>
<p>Rich, I am not a Bible scholar, but Proverbs 3:5 is saying that we should look to God for guidance in all things, listening to the inner voice (not in your head!) that will teach what direction to take, which decisions are best suited to keep you on the path to a more fulfilling relationship with God.  To me, this does not mean that God will tell me in excruciating detail how to live my life, but that he will guide me in the path that is in my best interests if I will let Him.  I have free will at all times, and can choose based on my own will and talents whenever I want.  My choices may coincide with God&#8217;s, but they may not.  Regardless, He will continue to lead me closer to Him.</p>
<p>As far as 2 Corinthians 10:5, Paul was concerned that the Corinthian church was backsliding into pagan rituals (some member was sleeping with his father&#8217;s wife!), and he was pointing out that the Corinthians needed to get their minds right, so to speak.  He was reminding them to get back to the basics of the gospel he had taught them, and to ignore the false teachings that had been imported into the church.</p>
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