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		<title>By: The Sundries Shack</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 20:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Watcher of Weasels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Watcher of Weasels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 19:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Council Has Spoken!&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<title>By: Watcher of Weasels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Watcher of Weasels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 07:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rick Moran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Moran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 04:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill:

Thanks for the additional info. My metric conversion table gives me about 144 lbs for 65 Kg's. 

Of course, the polonium (or cadmium is another neutron tamper used) has to be set a precise distance from the mass and then brought in closer proximity in order to bombard it with the neutron bath. That kind of design takes many months of testing in order to come up with the proper distances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill:</p>
<p>Thanks for the additional info. My metric conversion table gives me about 144 lbs for 65 Kg&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Of course, the polonium (or cadmium is another neutron tamper used) has to be set a precise distance from the mass and then brought in closer proximity in order to bombard it with the neutron bath. That kind of design takes many months of testing in order to come up with the proper distances.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Arnold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 03:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Author, no, implosion devices can be done with either plutonium 239 or HEU-235. 
From a nice simple intro on &lt;a href="http://www.fas.org/nuke/intro/nuke/design.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;weapon design&lt;/a&gt; at american federation of scientists, 
&lt;i&gt;"Implosion systems can be built using either Pu-239 or U-235 but the gun assembly only works for uranium. Implosion weapons are more difficult to build than gun weapons, but they are also more efficient, requiring less SNM and producing larger yields."&lt;/i&gt; (I believe SNM here is "special nuclear material")

Rick, I see the 65 kilogram figure all over the place on the web (the south african gun-design weapons were supposedly slightly more frugal (more highly enriched) at 50 kilograms) - &lt;i&gt;"The device [hiroshima bomb] contained 64.1 kg of highly enriched uranium, with an average enrichment of 80%. The six bombs built by the Republic of South Africa were gun-assembled and used 50kg of uranium enriched to between 80 percent and 93 percent in the isotope U-235."&lt;/i&gt; 

(I realize now I am woefully ignorant of weapon design.) The same article has a simple table:
			   Uranium-235      Plutonium-239

	Bare sphere:		56 kg	 	11 kg
	Thick Tamper:		15 kg		 5 kg
Where a tamper serves the dual purpose of neutron reflection and increasing the time the unit stays assembled before blowing apart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Author, no, implosion devices can be done with either plutonium 239 or HEU-235.<br />
From a nice simple intro on <a href="http://www.fas.org/nuke/intro/nuke/design.htm" rel="nofollow">weapon design</a> at american federation of scientists,<br />
<i>&#8220;Implosion systems can be built using either Pu-239 or U-235 but the gun assembly only works for uranium. Implosion weapons are more difficult to build than gun weapons, but they are also more efficient, requiring less SNM and producing larger yields.&#8221;</i> (I believe SNM here is &#8220;special nuclear material&#8221;)</p>
<p>Rick, I see the 65 kilogram figure all over the place on the web (the south african gun-design weapons were supposedly slightly more frugal (more highly enriched) at 50 kilograms) - <i>&#8220;The device [hiroshima bomb] contained 64.1 kg of highly enriched uranium, with an average enrichment of 80%. The six bombs built by the Republic of South Africa were gun-assembled and used 50kg of uranium enriched to between 80 percent and 93 percent in the isotope U-235.&#8221;</i> </p>
<p>(I realize now I am woefully ignorant of weapon design.) The same article has a simple table:<br />
			   Uranium-235      Plutonium-239</p>
<p>	Bare sphere:		56 kg	 	11 kg<br />
	Thick Tamper:		15 kg		 5 kg<br />
Where a tamper serves the dual purpose of neutron reflection and increasing the time the unit stays assembled before blowing apart.</p>
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		<title>By: Philomathean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philomathean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Iran is still 3-5 years away from acquiring a nuclear weapon, why are they going out of their way to stage a confrontation with the West?  It could all be a bluff to buy more time, but it would be dangerous to assume that.  In any event, I'm not comforted by the thought that the Iranians won't acquire nukes for 3-5 years.  By then George Bush will be out of office, and possibly the Republicans, too.  I shudder to think how a future Democratic president might deal with an Iranian nuke crisis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Iran is still 3-5 years away from acquiring a nuclear weapon, why are they going out of their way to stage a confrontation with the West?  It could all be a bluff to buy more time, but it would be dangerous to assume that.  In any event, I&#8217;m not comforted by the thought that the Iranians won&#8217;t acquire nukes for 3-5 years.  By then George Bush will be out of office, and possibly the Republicans, too.  I shudder to think how a future Democratic president might deal with an Iranian nuke crisis.</p>
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		<title>By: patch</title>
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		<dc:creator>patch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IRAN: HOW LONG DO WE REALLY HAVE?

Niall Fegurson is betting on 2007.</description>
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<p>Niall Fegurson is betting on 2007.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnMc</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnMc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the points are laid out in a well thought out manner, it is very dangerous to assume anything with Iran.  As to the â€œdonâ€™t worry, they wonâ€™t have a bomb for three to five yearsâ€ thoughts, Fred Kaplan brings about the point as to why it is of utmost importance now (especially to Israel). Source: http://www.slate.com/id/2134497/

   â€œFirst, it's worth emphasizing that enriching uranium and spinning gas centrifuge machines are necessary but not sufficient steps toward making A-bombs. The Iranians have to operate a cascade of machines. As David Albright of the Institute for Science and International Security points out in a paper published this month, the Iranians tried this once before, in 2003, but failed miserably and broke about a third of their centrifuges in the process. Repairing the damage and getting the machines running again will take at least six months to a year. And it will take another two years beyond that before the plant starts churning out bombs. In other words, if diplomacy has a chance to work, there is some time to make it work.

   How will we know, at what point can we judge, whether diplomacy is feasible or fantasy? Several Israeli officials have said publicly that, once the Iranians successfully operate a cascade of centrifuges, even in small numbers, they will know how to operate cascades in large numbers; they will be self-sufficient in the art and science of building A-bombs; they will have crossed a "red line" or, as some ominously put it, a "point of no return." In other words, from the viewpoint of many Israelis, the questionâ€”can diplomacy work?â€”will be decided in 2006.â€</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the points are laid out in a well thought out manner, it is very dangerous to assume anything with Iran.  As to the â€œdonâ€™t worry, they wonâ€™t have a bomb for three to five yearsâ€ thoughts, Fred Kaplan brings about the point as to why it is of utmost importance now (especially to Israel). Source: <a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2134497/" rel="nofollow">http://www.slate.com/id/2134497/</a></p>
<p>   â€œFirst, it&#8217;s worth emphasizing that enriching uranium and spinning gas centrifuge machines are necessary but not sufficient steps toward making A-bombs. The Iranians have to operate a cascade of machines. As David Albright of the Institute for Science and International Security points out in a paper published this month, the Iranians tried this once before, in 2003, but failed miserably and broke about a third of their centrifuges in the process. Repairing the damage and getting the machines running again will take at least six months to a year. And it will take another two years beyond that before the plant starts churning out bombs. In other words, if diplomacy has a chance to work, there is some time to make it work.</p>
<p>   How will we know, at what point can we judge, whether diplomacy is feasible or fantasy? Several Israeli officials have said publicly that, once the Iranians successfully operate a cascade of centrifuges, even in small numbers, they will know how to operate cascades in large numbers; they will be self-sufficient in the art and science of building A-bombs; they will have crossed a &#8220;red line&#8221; or, as some ominously put it, a &#8220;point of no return.&#8221; In other words, from the viewpoint of many Israelis, the questionâ€”can diplomacy work?â€”will be decided in 2006.â€</p>
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		<title>By: Mensa Barbie Welcomes You</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 16:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Formation of Radical Islam&lt;/strong&gt;

The mission inside the preformation of Radical Islamofascism is but a loop... playing out the synchronicities of former regimes. This time, the stakes are higher with nuclear weaponry.</description>
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<p>The mission inside the preformation of Radical Islamofascism is but a loop&#8230; playing out the synchronicities of former regimes. This time, the stakes are higher with nuclear weaponry.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 16:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another great article Rick.

There are several important challenges when attempting to figure out what the Iranians are doing.  First is our lack of data.  What we know is like moutain peaks that rise above a layer of clouds - it's an incomplete picture at best.  Some of the reason for the various predictions on capability come from the differing assumptions one is forced to make because critical information simply isn't available.  That said, I tend to agree with a 2-3 year timeline based on what we know, but it's always possible the Iranians have a separate, covert enrichment program that uses centrifuges or another enrichment technology that may have already given them a crude bomb, or perhaps one this year.

The second, and in my mind, largest, factor in determining the state of the Iranian program is intent.  We simply don't have a good idea what Iran's true goals are.  I think it is safe to assume that Iran wants a nuclear weapon, but that is only the minimum we need to know.  What is their ultimate goal?  Do they simply want a handful of weapons to guard against their nuclear neighbors Pakistan, Russia and Israel?  Or do they want 30 weapons with a capability to produce several a year?  What capacity for production do they want - there is a big difference in how they will prosecute their program depending on these goals.  

Another important consideration is how they intend to weaponize these bombs.  It's assumed that Iran eventually intends to put weapons on their ballistic missiles, but that goal is a very difficult engineering problem that will take them some time to overcome.  Is that their ultimate goal?  Or will they limit themselves to another, less challenging (from an engineering perspective) method of delivery.  Their options in this area are limited, since their Air Force lacks the capability to reliably deliver a weapon to a target in another country.

The answers to these unknowns will determine how the Iranian's program will manifest, because they will determine the technical aspects of the program.

I'm short on time at the moment and will try to go into greater detail later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great article Rick.</p>
<p>There are several important challenges when attempting to figure out what the Iranians are doing.  First is our lack of data.  What we know is like moutain peaks that rise above a layer of clouds - it&#8217;s an incomplete picture at best.  Some of the reason for the various predictions on capability come from the differing assumptions one is forced to make because critical information simply isn&#8217;t available.  That said, I tend to agree with a 2-3 year timeline based on what we know, but it&#8217;s always possible the Iranians have a separate, covert enrichment program that uses centrifuges or another enrichment technology that may have already given them a crude bomb, or perhaps one this year.</p>
<p>The second, and in my mind, largest, factor in determining the state of the Iranian program is intent.  We simply don&#8217;t have a good idea what Iran&#8217;s true goals are.  I think it is safe to assume that Iran wants a nuclear weapon, but that is only the minimum we need to know.  What is their ultimate goal?  Do they simply want a handful of weapons to guard against their nuclear neighbors Pakistan, Russia and Israel?  Or do they want 30 weapons with a capability to produce several a year?  What capacity for production do they want - there is a big difference in how they will prosecute their program depending on these goals.  </p>
<p>Another important consideration is how they intend to weaponize these bombs.  It&#8217;s assumed that Iran eventually intends to put weapons on their ballistic missiles, but that goal is a very difficult engineering problem that will take them some time to overcome.  Is that their ultimate goal?  Or will they limit themselves to another, less challenging (from an engineering perspective) method of delivery.  Their options in this area are limited, since their Air Force lacks the capability to reliably deliver a weapon to a target in another country.</p>
<p>The answers to these unknowns will determine how the Iranian&#8217;s program will manifest, because they will determine the technical aspects of the program.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m short on time at the moment and will try to go into greater detail later.</p>
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