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		<title>By: Right Wing Nut House &#187; THE &#8220;CIVIL WAR&#8221; DEBATE</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/02/25/iraq-the-bullwinkle-factor/comment-page-1/#comment-417721</link>
		<dc:creator>Right Wing Nut House &#187; THE &#8220;CIVIL WAR&#8221; DEBATE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] According to the left, Iraq has been &#8220;sliding into civil war&#8221; or there has been a &#8220;de facto&#8221; civil war&#8221; in Iraq at least 7 different times since Saddam&#8217;s statue fell. Of course, they were laughably wrong. Just as their warnings about imminent disaster in Iraq over the last three years were wrong as well. Their reading of what was actually happening in that country was so consistently off target that any accuracy that can be ascribed to their analysis to today&#8217;s Iraq might be placed in the realm of blind luck. Keep repeating the same Cassandra-like warnings of disaster over and over and over and eventually when the explosion happens, you can pretend that you weren&#8217;t so unalterably wrong for three years running. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] According to the left, Iraq has been &#8220;sliding into civil war&#8221; or there has been a &#8220;de facto&#8221; civil war&#8221; in Iraq at least 7 different times since Saddam&#8217;s statue fell. Of course, they were laughably wrong. Just as their warnings about imminent disaster in Iraq over the last three years were wrong as well. Their reading of what was actually happening in that country was so consistently off target that any accuracy that can be ascribed to their analysis to today&#8217;s Iraq might be placed in the realm of blind luck. Keep repeating the same Cassandra-like warnings of disaster over and over and over and eventually when the explosion happens, you can pretend that you weren&#8217;t so unalterably wrong for three years running. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Right Wing Nut House &#187; AMERICAN MSM DUPED BY AL QAEDA REPORTS OF IRAQ CIVIL WAR?</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/02/25/iraq-the-bullwinkle-factor/comment-page-1/#comment-151669</link>
		<dc:creator>Right Wing Nut House &#187; AMERICAN MSM DUPED BY AL QAEDA REPORTS OF IRAQ CIVIL WAR?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2006 12:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] VINCE AUT MORIRE VODKAPUNDIT WALLO WORLD WHAT ATTITUDE PROBLEM? WIDE AWAKES WIZBANG WUZZADEM   AMERICAN MSM DUPED BY AL QAEDA REPORTS OF IRAQ CIVIL WAR? ABOUT THAT SLIPPERY SLOPE&#8230; ON THE USE AND ABUSE OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE (AND OTHER IDIOCIES)IRAQ: THE BULLWINKLE FACTOR HAMAS SIGNS CONTRACT TO RUN AMTRAK IRAQ CRISIS: FORT SUMTER OR BLEEDING KANSAS? THE COUNCIL HAS SPOKEN CARNIVAL OF THE CLUELESS #33: THE KISS AND MAKE-UP EDITION  BACKLASH AGAINST THE BACKLASH MAKE WASHINGTON&#8217;S BIRTHDAY A NATIONAL HOLIDAY AGAIN ANY PORT IN A STORM&#8230;EXCEPT THIS ONE MARTHA FOR PRESIDENT! ELBARADEI: HEART OF MUSH, HEAD OF STONE WHAT&#8217;S A HYPERPOWER TO DO? THE LEFT HASN&#8217;T LEARNED A DAMNED THING FROM 9/11 THE HOUSE TAKES A HOLIDAY THE &#8220;HAPPY WARRIOR&#8221; IS WEEPING IN HIS GRAVE THE COUNCIL HAS SPOKEN SADDAM TAPES: WHY IT&#8217;S ALWAYS GOOD TO LOOK BEFORE YOU LEAP DISAPPEARING HOUSE II REPUBLICAN DIVERSITY ENCOMPASSES BUSH CRITICS CARNIVAL OF THE CLUELESS CANCELED: WORLD COMES TO AN END &#8220;SADDAM TAPES&#8221; REQUIRE A CAUTIOUS APPROACH DISAPPEARING HOUSE SOLIDARITY FOREVER   &#8220;24&#8243; (45) ABLE DANGER (10) Bird Flu (5) Blogging (69) Books (5) CARNIVAL OF THE CLUELESS (57) CHICAGO BEARS (9) CIA VS. THE WHITE HOUSE (6) Cindy Sheehan (10) Ethics (44) General (262) Government (27) History (49) Iran (12) KATRINA (24) Katrina Timeline (4) Marvin Moonbat (14) Media (62) Middle East (24) Moonbats (40) Open House (1) Politics (141) Science (12) Space (11) Supreme Court (18) War on Terror (89) WATCHER&#8217;S COUNCIL (36) WORLD POLITICS (34) WORLD SERIES (14)   Admin Login Register Valid XHTML XFN [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] VINCE AUT MORIRE VODKAPUNDIT WALLO WORLD WHAT ATTITUDE PROBLEM? WIDE AWAKES WIZBANG WUZZADEM   AMERICAN MSM DUPED BY AL QAEDA REPORTS OF IRAQ CIVIL WAR? ABOUT THAT SLIPPERY SLOPE&#8230; ON THE USE AND ABUSE OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE (AND OTHER IDIOCIES)IRAQ: THE BULLWINKLE FACTOR HAMAS SIGNS CONTRACT TO RUN AMTRAK IRAQ CRISIS: FORT SUMTER OR BLEEDING KANSAS? THE COUNCIL HAS SPOKEN CARNIVAL OF THE CLUELESS #33: THE KISS AND MAKE-UP EDITION  BACKLASH AGAINST THE BACKLASH MAKE WASHINGTON&#8217;S BIRTHDAY A NATIONAL HOLIDAY AGAIN ANY PORT IN A STORM&#8230;EXCEPT THIS ONE MARTHA FOR PRESIDENT! ELBARADEI: HEART OF MUSH, HEAD OF STONE WHAT&#8217;S A HYPERPOWER TO DO? THE LEFT HASN&#8217;T LEARNED A DAMNED THING FROM 9/11 THE HOUSE TAKES A HOLIDAY THE &#8220;HAPPY WARRIOR&#8221; IS WEEPING IN HIS GRAVE THE COUNCIL HAS SPOKEN SADDAM TAPES: WHY IT&#8217;S ALWAYS GOOD TO LOOK BEFORE YOU LEAP DISAPPEARING HOUSE II REPUBLICAN DIVERSITY ENCOMPASSES BUSH CRITICS CARNIVAL OF THE CLUELESS CANCELED: WORLD COMES TO AN END &#8220;SADDAM TAPES&#8221; REQUIRE A CAUTIOUS APPROACH DISAPPEARING HOUSE SOLIDARITY FOREVER   &#8220;24&#8243; (45) ABLE DANGER (10) Bird Flu (5) Blogging (69) Books (5) CARNIVAL OF THE CLUELESS (57) CHICAGO BEARS (9) CIA VS. THE WHITE HOUSE (6) Cindy Sheehan (10) Ethics (44) General (262) Government (27) History (49) Iran (12) KATRINA (24) Katrina Timeline (4) Marvin Moonbat (14) Media (62) Middle East (24) Moonbats (40) Open House (1) Politics (141) Science (12) Space (11) Supreme Court (18) War on Terror (89) WATCHER&#8217;S COUNCIL (36) WORLD POLITICS (34) WORLD SERIES (14)   Admin Login Register Valid XHTML XFN [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Walter E. Wallis</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/02/25/iraq-the-bullwinkle-factor/comment-page-1/#comment-151608</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter E. Wallis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2006 05:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a real war, the enemy will seek out your weak points to attack. The U.S. weak point has been the willingness of political opponents to scream for surrender whenever something bad happens, either to us or to the enemy. Tactics change to fit the situation, which is which is why no war can be won with some grand, unbeatable plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a real war, the enemy will seek out your weak points to attack. The U.S. weak point has been the willingness of political opponents to scream for surrender whenever something bad happens, either to us or to the enemy. Tactics change to fit the situation, which is which is why no war can be won with some grand, unbeatable plan.</p>
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		<title>By: SShiell</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/02/25/iraq-the-bullwinkle-factor/comment-page-1/#comment-151466</link>
		<dc:creator>SShiell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2006 21:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting to note how ready MSM is to declare the beginning of the "Iraqi Civil War" but how reluctant they are then to report that it has not started -- yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting to note how ready MSM is to declare the beginning of the &#8220;Iraqi Civil War&#8221; but how reluctant they are then to report that it has not started &#8212; yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Stop The ACLU</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/02/25/iraq-the-bullwinkle-factor/comment-page-1/#comment-151454</link>
		<dc:creator>Stop The ACLU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2006 19:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Sunday Funnies&lt;/strong&gt;

	Rest In Peace to Don Knotts.  This list of funnies are in honor to all the times he made us laugh. 
	
image courtesy of Parley Hellewell
	Conservathink has the Carnival of Comedy
Sex Pistols spit on Hall of Fame honor
Suitably Flip gives us Arnold Mee...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Sunday Funnies</strong></p>
<p>	Rest In Peace to Don Knotts.  This list of funnies are in honor to all the times he made us laugh. </p>
<p>image courtesy of Parley Hellewell<br />
	Conservathink has the Carnival of Comedy<br />
Sex Pistols spit on Hall of Fame honor<br />
Suitably Flip gives us Arnold Mee&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom the Redhunter</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/02/25/iraq-the-bullwinkle-factor/comment-page-1/#comment-151402</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom the Redhunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2006 17:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the most part, the same people who have warned incessantly about civil war are the same ones who told us that tens of thousands of Americans would die in the initial ground assault, that there were be be a cataclysmic "battle of Baghdad" that would tie up our forces for months, that there would be a humanitarian disaster marked by mass starvation, and who always tell us that the elections won't go off as planned.  

Not to say that the situation in Iraq, especially in the Sunni triangle, isn't bad.  It is.  But there is no civil war and probably won't be one.  

Rather, as &lt;a href='http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=022406A' rel="nofollow"&gt;Lee Harris said over at Winds of Change&lt;/a&gt; Iraq is on the brink of "tribalist anarchy". I'm now thinking that this is a better term to describe the danger than "civil war", which implies something along the American experience 1860-5 or the Spanish Civil War in the 1930s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the most part, the same people who have warned incessantly about civil war are the same ones who told us that tens of thousands of Americans would die in the initial ground assault, that there were be be a cataclysmic &#8220;battle of Baghdad&#8221; that would tie up our forces for months, that there would be a humanitarian disaster marked by mass starvation, and who always tell us that the elections won&#8217;t go off as planned.  </p>
<p>Not to say that the situation in Iraq, especially in the Sunni triangle, isn&#8217;t bad.  It is.  But there is no civil war and probably won&#8217;t be one.  </p>
<p>Rather, as <a href='http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=022406A' rel="nofollow">Lee Harris said over at Winds of Change</a> Iraq is on the brink of &#8220;tribalist anarchy&#8221;. I&#8217;m now thinking that this is a better term to describe the danger than &#8220;civil war&#8221;, which implies something along the American experience 1860-5 or the Spanish Civil War in the 1930s.</p>
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		<title>By: reliapundit</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/02/25/iraq-the-bullwinkle-factor/comment-page-1/#comment-151138</link>
		<dc:creator>reliapundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2006 23:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the msm has repeatedly got these stories wrong, too:

believe it or not, the guardian recently opined that communism was really not that bad;

not a single msm outlet has ever recanted the "massacre in jeningrad story", or that mohummed al dura was NOT a victim of colonialism but of ruthless jihadoterror  (the fallows Atlantic article is as big as it got);

the MSM continuously harps that retributionary and preventive/preemptive violence - (like the Mossad's response to Munich, the USA's response to a decade of Saddam's violating the armistice,) - only adds to the "cycle of violence;" constant use of body-counts/"death total updates" are used to highlight this angle - as if as long as there are deaths due to jihadoterror we haven't won and/or we aren't making any progress;

and they continue to deny that lebanon and libya were reformed - and syria forced to exit lebanon - by bush's aggressive foreign policies.

if the MSM during WW2 had been this bad, then FDR's would've essentially had to get his message out through what amounts to Goebbels' propaganda machine. and he wouldn't have been reelected in 1944.

YUP: the MSM today works as much for the enemy as the Goebbels machine worked for Hitler, and as Pravda worked for the USSR.

Today's MSM are - for all intents and purposes - a tool of the enemy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the msm has repeatedly got these stories wrong, too:</p>
<p>believe it or not, the guardian recently opined that communism was really not that bad;</p>
<p>not a single msm outlet has ever recanted the &#8220;massacre in jeningrad story&#8221;, or that mohummed al dura was NOT a victim of colonialism but of ruthless jihadoterror  (the fallows Atlantic article is as big as it got);</p>
<p>the MSM continuously harps that retributionary and preventive/preemptive violence - (like the Mossad&#8217;s response to Munich, the USA&#8217;s response to a decade of Saddam&#8217;s violating the armistice,) - only adds to the &#8220;cycle of violence;&#8221; constant use of body-counts/&#8221;death total updates&#8221; are used to highlight this angle - as if as long as there are deaths due to jihadoterror we haven&#8217;t won and/or we aren&#8217;t making any progress;</p>
<p>and they continue to deny that lebanon and libya were reformed - and syria forced to exit lebanon - by bush&#8217;s aggressive foreign policies.</p>
<p>if the MSM during WW2 had been this bad, then FDR&#8217;s would&#8217;ve essentially had to get his message out through what amounts to Goebbels&#8217; propaganda machine. and he wouldn&#8217;t have been reelected in 1944.</p>
<p>YUP: the MSM today works as much for the enemy as the Goebbels machine worked for Hitler, and as Pravda worked for the USSR.</p>
<p>Today&#8217;s MSM are - for all intents and purposes - a tool of the enemy.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Moran</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/02/25/iraq-the-bullwinkle-factor/comment-page-1/#comment-151128</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Moran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2006 23:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um...no, we couldn't "easily say" that someone who predicted an Iraq civil war 2 freakin' years ago was right "all along."

In fact, we could much more easily say they were full of crap.

This may yet become a civil war. More likely the violence will peter out, the Sunnis will come back to the table...until the next well placed bomb brings the country to the brink again.

To recognize this kind of instability without going off half cocked and saying that "this is it" as far as the catalyst for a civil war is much more realistic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um&#8230;no, we couldn&#8217;t &#8220;easily say&#8221; that someone who predicted an Iraq civil war 2 freakin&#8217; years ago was right &#8220;all along.&#8221;</p>
<p>In fact, we could much more easily say they were full of crap.</p>
<p>This may yet become a civil war. More likely the violence will peter out, the Sunnis will come back to the table&#8230;until the next well placed bomb brings the country to the brink again.</p>
<p>To recognize this kind of instability without going off half cocked and saying that &#8220;this is it&#8221; as far as the catalyst for a civil war is much more realistic.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Wolfe</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/02/25/iraq-the-bullwinkle-factor/comment-page-1/#comment-151127</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander Wolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2006 22:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or one could just as easily say that, if in fact civil war breaks out, they were right all along. Certainly one cannot say that events are leading us to believe that they are more probably wrong than right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or one could just as easily say that, if in fact civil war breaks out, they were right all along. Certainly one cannot say that events are leading us to believe that they are more probably wrong than right.</p>
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		<title>By: Lokki</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/02/25/iraq-the-bullwinkle-factor/comment-page-1/#comment-150996</link>
		<dc:creator>Lokki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2006 20:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Democracy is not a pretty sight at the best of times, even in the most developed countries (assuming America meets that definition).

Democratic elections are a series of zig-zags along the path towards an ideal. 

I think that it thus stands to reason that the first election that a country has little or no meaning. It is not until the fourth or fifth election that a clear direction starts to appear.

I would expect it to be, therefore, perhaps 20 years before the Iraqi government begins to sort itself out. 

The fact that there are THREE factions in Iraq is a problem that may contain the roots of its own solution. None of the three has quite enough power to do without one of the other two.

This will, ultimately, force compromise.

Note that our own country required a civil war to achieve its final form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Democracy is not a pretty sight at the best of times, even in the most developed countries (assuming America meets that definition).</p>
<p>Democratic elections are a series of zig-zags along the path towards an ideal. </p>
<p>I think that it thus stands to reason that the first election that a country has little or no meaning. It is not until the fourth or fifth election that a clear direction starts to appear.</p>
<p>I would expect it to be, therefore, perhaps 20 years before the Iraqi government begins to sort itself out. </p>
<p>The fact that there are THREE factions in Iraq is a problem that may contain the roots of its own solution. None of the three has quite enough power to do without one of the other two.</p>
<p>This will, ultimately, force compromise.</p>
<p>Note that our own country required a civil war to achieve its final form.</p>
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