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		<title>By: Midwest Prognosticator &#187; 24 Takes a Heinous Turn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Midwest Prognosticator &#187; 24 Takes a Heinous Turn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Golfer1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Golfer1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take a look at the young lady in this picture.  Who does she resemble?  I hope the picture remains unchanged on the website...
http://www.foxnews.com/hannityandcolmes/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a look at the young lady in this picture.  Who does she resemble?  I hope the picture remains unchanged on the website&#8230;<br />
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		<title>By: RS Ring</title>
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		<dc:creator>RS Ring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 23:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great recap! Can't really agree to the ALL the violations of Constitutional Rights, though.

1) Chloe hacked Henderson's PC AFTER he committed the felony of attempted 1st degree murder of a federal agent, and an agent that was investigating possible terrorist activities. I think that pretty much gives them enough probably cause to search anything of Henderson's (including his body cavities) without a warrent.
2) Henderson was not officially arrested. He was simply taken into custody. OK, I know that is a stretch, but peace officers are not obligated to read a person their rights unless they officially arrest that person.
3) Agree.
4) Again, probable cause give Jack, and all of CTU, to search and sieze anything of Henderson's.
5) Same as 1 and 4.
6) Agree. My 16 year old son has only started watching 24 in the last two weeks. Took a while to get him hooked, but he is now. He about wet his pants when Jack shot Miriam.

With respect to the boyfriend of the hobbit's sister, I think Matt has got it right: he didn't contact the terrorists, they contacted him. "Hey, crackhead. Mug your girlfriend's brother, steal his keycard so we can use it to kill off the only people in the world who can stop us from killing all the people in LA, and we will give you $20,000." "Uh, OK."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great recap! Can&#8217;t really agree to the ALL the violations of Constitutional Rights, though.</p>
<p>1) Chloe hacked Henderson&#8217;s PC AFTER he committed the felony of attempted 1st degree murder of a federal agent, and an agent that was investigating possible terrorist activities. I think that pretty much gives them enough probably cause to search anything of Henderson&#8217;s (including his body cavities) without a warrent.<br />
2) Henderson was not officially arrested. He was simply taken into custody. OK, I know that is a stretch, but peace officers are not obligated to read a person their rights unless they officially arrest that person.<br />
3) Agree.<br />
4) Again, probable cause give Jack, and all of CTU, to search and sieze anything of Henderson&#8217;s.<br />
5) Same as 1 and 4.<br />
6) Agree. My 16 year old son has only started watching 24 in the last two weeks. Took a while to get him hooked, but he is now. He about wet his pants when Jack shot Miriam.</p>
<p>With respect to the boyfriend of the hobbit&#8217;s sister, I think Matt has got it right: he didn&#8217;t contact the terrorists, they contacted him. &#8220;Hey, crackhead. Mug your girlfriend&#8217;s brother, steal his keycard so we can use it to kill off the only people in the world who can stop us from killing all the people in LA, and we will give you $20,000.&#8221; &#8220;Uh, OK.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: TJ King</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJ King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 18:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The foreshadowing of Edgar's demise was as loud as a bullhorn. Two typical flags of impending axing are poorly acted chracters that don't participate in a primary thread (Kerrie) and a self conscious bumbler that makes unforgivable lapses of judgement on a primary thread that results in mass deaths (Edgar). When Kerrie tells Edgar about the building ventilation system being hacked, an area (Building schematics) that he is supposed to know even better than Chloe, he blows her off. Sin of all Sins, When he is told that HIS OWN Building has been infiltrated, it doesn't click with him that they are dealing with terrorists that use ventilation systems for centox. He may as well have said, "I know I usually quickly analyze building schematics and building security servers to quickly discover the slightest imperfection, but I'm going to go to the basement and find Kerrie who recently told me that our own ventilation system and potentiel nerve gas delivery system has just been hacked!". Why didn't he stop off at the cafeteria to grab a cheese steak on the way. Orthodox Hollywood action movie dogma says, that if you make a mistake like that, you die as a direct result of your own negligence and your friends must mourn your passing for exactly 15 seconds.

Question: How did Hobbit McGill get back in the building without a key card. Is there some kind of fire exit that the smokers have rigged so they can slip out in the alley without violating California's draconian anti tobacco laws.

Constitutional laws: The torture and arrest scenarios can be broken down into numerous momentum killing legal procedures, i.e. no miranda rights read, injections of Sodium penethol require court order for 4th amendment reasons. The hobbit can be relieved but under what grounds can he be detained ( I imagine they can argue that he has 72 hours to be charged before seeing a judge). The President can be charged with aiding and abetting murder as well as conspiracy by providing logistical information for murder one (premeditaed and lying in wait are "special circumstnaces" that would trigger the death penalty if he was the shooter, or in OJs case the stabber.)

Did anybody notice that the vent for the ventilation system appeared to be an exhaust vent to the outside world apparently to remove hot air from an overheated computer room. Maybe the hobbit could have kicked the 80 year old ventilation fan out and slip into the building through the vent.

Expect Tony and Henderson to have it out in the interrogation room and Jack to wriggle through the vents to come over to have a chat with them. 

I have heard that Pony boy is expected to play a fairly well developed character, so don't expect him to get a wiff of gas. He can't die anytime soon. He will be Jack's Freudian antagonizer for several episodes, brainwashing Jacks beloved daughter to turn her against Jack. There will be lines like, "You are so wrapped up in your own life, Mr. Bauer, that you can't appreciate what a special person your own daughter is!!!" Then Jack will come unglued and try to cut out Pony boys eye sockets only to be restrained by Curtis and his daughter screaming to stop.

One plot twist we can expect to see unfold is, why does Henderson keep saying how he and Miriam visited Jacks Daughter so much. We can assume that Pony Boy and Henderson know each other now and may even be in cahoots. Henderson is not going to visit her on multiple occasions for no reason. Pony Boy was sent to build a psychological profile of Jack.

The aide to the first lady (Evelyn or whatever) spent a little too much time around Cummings (maybe to keep an eye on him), expect her to take it in the shorts soon. The post above that implies that Mike is a civil libertarian because he opposes martial law misses the point. Mike is calling on the first lady to yank the President by the short and curlies so he will "stand up" to the obviously unscrupulous VP. BTW, Didn't the current President "Appoint" this VP and who pulled his strings to do that, Cummings? 

Expect:

Mike: CTU is handling this, no martial law

VP: CTU is sealed up like a mayonaise jar. They can't protect anybody. Have the 82nd Airborne parachute into East LA, and load up on body armor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The foreshadowing of Edgar&#8217;s demise was as loud as a bullhorn. Two typical flags of impending axing are poorly acted chracters that don&#8217;t participate in a primary thread (Kerrie) and a self conscious bumbler that makes unforgivable lapses of judgement on a primary thread that results in mass deaths (Edgar). When Kerrie tells Edgar about the building ventilation system being hacked, an area (Building schematics) that he is supposed to know even better than Chloe, he blows her off. Sin of all Sins, When he is told that HIS OWN Building has been infiltrated, it doesn&#8217;t click with him that they are dealing with terrorists that use ventilation systems for centox. He may as well have said, &#8220;I know I usually quickly analyze building schematics and building security servers to quickly discover the slightest imperfection, but I&#8217;m going to go to the basement and find Kerrie who recently told me that our own ventilation system and potentiel nerve gas delivery system has just been hacked!&#8221;. Why didn&#8217;t he stop off at the cafeteria to grab a cheese steak on the way. Orthodox Hollywood action movie dogma says, that if you make a mistake like that, you die as a direct result of your own negligence and your friends must mourn your passing for exactly 15 seconds.</p>
<p>Question: How did Hobbit McGill get back in the building without a key card. Is there some kind of fire exit that the smokers have rigged so they can slip out in the alley without violating California&#8217;s draconian anti tobacco laws.</p>
<p>Constitutional laws: The torture and arrest scenarios can be broken down into numerous momentum killing legal procedures, i.e. no miranda rights read, injections of Sodium penethol require court order for 4th amendment reasons. The hobbit can be relieved but under what grounds can he be detained ( I imagine they can argue that he has 72 hours to be charged before seeing a judge). The President can be charged with aiding and abetting murder as well as conspiracy by providing logistical information for murder one (premeditaed and lying in wait are &#8220;special circumstnaces&#8221; that would trigger the death penalty if he was the shooter, or in OJs case the stabber.)</p>
<p>Did anybody notice that the vent for the ventilation system appeared to be an exhaust vent to the outside world apparently to remove hot air from an overheated computer room. Maybe the hobbit could have kicked the 80 year old ventilation fan out and slip into the building through the vent.</p>
<p>Expect Tony and Henderson to have it out in the interrogation room and Jack to wriggle through the vents to come over to have a chat with them. </p>
<p>I have heard that Pony boy is expected to play a fairly well developed character, so don&#8217;t expect him to get a wiff of gas. He can&#8217;t die anytime soon. He will be Jack&#8217;s Freudian antagonizer for several episodes, brainwashing Jacks beloved daughter to turn her against Jack. There will be lines like, &#8220;You are so wrapped up in your own life, Mr. Bauer, that you can&#8217;t appreciate what a special person your own daughter is!!!&#8221; Then Jack will come unglued and try to cut out Pony boys eye sockets only to be restrained by Curtis and his daughter screaming to stop.</p>
<p>One plot twist we can expect to see unfold is, why does Henderson keep saying how he and Miriam visited Jacks Daughter so much. We can assume that Pony Boy and Henderson know each other now and may even be in cahoots. Henderson is not going to visit her on multiple occasions for no reason. Pony Boy was sent to build a psychological profile of Jack.</p>
<p>The aide to the first lady (Evelyn or whatever) spent a little too much time around Cummings (maybe to keep an eye on him), expect her to take it in the shorts soon. The post above that implies that Mike is a civil libertarian because he opposes martial law misses the point. Mike is calling on the first lady to yank the President by the short and curlies so he will &#8220;stand up&#8221; to the obviously unscrupulous VP. BTW, Didn&#8217;t the current President &#8220;Appoint&#8221; this VP and who pulled his strings to do that, Cummings? </p>
<p>Expect:</p>
<p>Mike: CTU is handling this, no martial law</p>
<p>VP: CTU is sealed up like a mayonaise jar. They can&#8217;t protect anybody. Have the 82nd Airborne parachute into East LA, and load up on body armor.</p>
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		<title>By: Flora Hoffman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flora Hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 08:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on you who pay my social security benefits, not even sad that Edgar got knocked off so ingloriously?  I had to learn it from the Laura Ingraham show (teaches me right, just cuz one Tivo's doesn't mean you can wait 24 hours to watch!) Anyway, Edgar was harmless, why waste him? To what end?  They must give great severance packages.  Where will the poor boy get another job like that? I love reading all your smart comments, because lots of this goes over my head!  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on you who pay my social security benefits, not even sad that Edgar got knocked off so ingloriously?  I had to learn it from the Laura Ingraham show (teaches me right, just cuz one Tivo&#8217;s doesn&#8217;t mean you can wait 24 hours to watch!) Anyway, Edgar was harmless, why waste him? To what end?  They must give great severance packages.  Where will the poor boy get another job like that? I love reading all your smart comments, because lots of this goes over my head!  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: The MaryHunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>The MaryHunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 03:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Publius: re Edgar - you bastard. :D

Rick: methinks your venom re Cuthbert belies some soft white underbelly somewhere. C'mon, you've got a crush? Just how many times have you watched "The Girl Next Door" anyway? ;-) I never heard of the movie until you ripped her a new one over it.  Wes does point out her horrid plot configurations over the seasons, ya know, so let's be fair. 

Matt re Palmer (former prez) I thought Novik was Palmer's CoS... but still I'm unclear just how Palmer came to know about the terrorist threat originally. Is that a loose end, or am I asleep at the switch?  And yes, the Chinese... Good call. I expect they'll show up around hour 24 and lead into next season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Publius: re Edgar - you bastard. <img src='http://rightwingnuthouse.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Rick: methinks your venom re Cuthbert belies some soft white underbelly somewhere. C&#8217;mon, you&#8217;ve got a crush? Just how many times have you watched &#8220;The Girl Next Door&#8221; anyway? <img src='http://rightwingnuthouse.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> I never heard of the movie until you ripped her a new one over it.  Wes does point out her horrid plot configurations over the seasons, ya know, so let&#8217;s be fair. </p>
<p>Matt re Palmer (former prez) I thought Novik was Palmer&#8217;s CoS&#8230; but still I&#8217;m unclear just how Palmer came to know about the terrorist threat originally. Is that a loose end, or am I asleep at the switch?  And yes, the Chinese&#8230; Good call. I expect they&#8217;ll show up around hour 24 and lead into next season.</p>
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		<title>By: Badge 2211</title>
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		<dc:creator>Badge 2211</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 01:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron and Nutzo Martha is just plain wrong. He's the only mouth breather that isn't falling down dead or bouncing like a Spaulding, a rock he is. He's our man because he's the anti-Jack.

The only draw is Jack Bauer. The plots are sooo PC--what are Russian separatists? In the real world they are known as Chechans but they might take a Hollywood studio as savagely as they did a Beslan grade school so lets leave those sleeping dogs alone.

Forget Season #3 when the writers played the Crips and Bloods are in the House.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron and Nutzo Martha is just plain wrong. He&#8217;s the only mouth breather that isn&#8217;t falling down dead or bouncing like a Spaulding, a rock he is. He&#8217;s our man because he&#8217;s the anti-Jack.</p>
<p>The only draw is Jack Bauer. The plots are sooo PC&#8211;what are Russian separatists? In the real world they are known as Chechans but they might take a Hollywood studio as savagely as they did a Beslan grade school so lets leave those sleeping dogs alone.</p>
<p>Forget Season #3 when the writers played the Crips and Bloods are in the House.</p>
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		<title>By: TMH's Bacon Bits</title>
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		<dc:creator>TMH's Bacon Bits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 00:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;BOMS and Other Potentially Loud Items&lt;/strong&gt;

	Oh, MAN. And of course, I forgot, what with my biz trip, that 24 was a double episode last night. Only caught the second hour. Get the agonizing lowdown on last night&#8217;s double 24 episode&#8230;

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<p>	Oh, MAN. And of course, I forgot, what with my biz trip, that 24 was a double episode last night. Only caught the second hour. Get the agonizing lowdown on last night&#8217;s double 24 episode&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 23:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great recap as usualy. Makes mine look like yuck.  

What I want to know is how did Jenny's coc-addled boyfriend know who to call too?

As for Kim (gag) -- can we switch her for Edgar?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great recap as usualy. Makes mine look like yuck.  </p>
<p>What I want to know is how did Jenny&#8217;s coc-addled boyfriend know who to call too?</p>
<p>As for Kim (gag) &#8212; can we switch her for Edgar?</p>
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		<title>By: kender</title>
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		<dc:creator>kender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 22:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone that tries to talk to me during 24 gets a growl and a glare. Phone is off and computer sound is off.

I don't watch a lot of TV but when I do shut up and let me watch.

That neighbor of Sue's would have had to wait on me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone that tries to talk to me during 24 gets a growl and a glare. Phone is off and computer sound is off.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t watch a lot of TV but when I do shut up and let me watch.</p>
<p>That neighbor of Sue&#8217;s would have had to wait on me.</p>
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