Comments on: REVIEW: “GETTING AMERICA RIGHT”

By: bob natz

bob natz — Sun, 07 Jan 2007 06:13:07 +0000

“While not totally responsible for the kinds of budgetary shenanigans described by the authors, there is nevertheless a great conundrum in conservative governance that I wish the authors would have addressed more directly. Modern conservatism was an ideology born in a politically inferior position to liberalism. Itâ€™s strengths have always been in the logical way it is dismantled the intellectual underpinnings of the welfare state. But knocking the chocks from underneath the leftâ€™s cherished beliefs is one thing; actually governing a 21st century industrialized democracy is another.” Quote from you.
I really see no point in the theory that anti-intellectualism and the cocky ‘make-it-up-as you-go-along’ ploy will ever replace original thought and an honest effort in recognizing that common people are not the blame for indifference and overextension.
The welfare state as the great goblin seems to be the only fall back excuse left for all the conservative failures. bob natz

By: Right Wing Nut House » “GETTING AMERICA RIGHT:” IS IT THE GOVERNMENT’S BUSINESS?

Fri, 17 Mar 2006 17:43:29 +0000

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By: Watcher of Weasels

Watcher of Weasels — Fri, 17 Mar 2006 09:16:22 +0000

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Watcher of Weasels — Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:27:54 +0000

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By: Waidmann

Waidmann — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:12:56 +0000

What I would like to see is a book called, “Taking Back the Education Establishment in America” that would lay out a detailed 5, 10 and 20 year plan for rooting socialism and political correctness out of American schools and Universities. I’m greatly afraid that there will be no meaningful changes until and unless conservatives get control of the education establishment. Education is probably the most important element of this whole thing. We’ve made good inroads into the Courts and have broken the monopoly of the Fourth Estate. Now we need to complete the triumverate (so to speak), and begin taking the Education establishment.

IMHO, natch.

Waidmann

By: Hawkeye

Hawkeye — Mon, 13 Mar 2006 23:40:06 +0000

Any attempt to roll back the growth of Federal influence is guaranteed to be a long and difficult process for all the reasons you noted, Rick, and more.

Conservatives often speak out against the Federal government’s “mission creep” over the last 30-50 years, some even go back to the New DEal to find the source. But even the New Deal didn’t spring full grow from the brow of FDR.

The New Deal, and the political and social philosophies held by FDR and his cabinet and advisors from which the New Deal grew, are firmly rooted in the end of the 19th century, 50 years before FDR took office, in Progressivism.

I once saw a text that described the Progressive movement as a blend of socialiam and populism. That seems a good working description (unfortunately it could also be applied to fascism which parts of the New Deal resembled).

The momentum of this “Progressive” belief that governmant is the universal answer continued from the 1880s, without serious challange, until the rise of Reagan in the 1980s.

The roots of this weed go deep and will not be easy to pull up.

As to a line item veto, I really think most of the constitutional questions raised are a smoke screen for Congress.

A LIV does not undermine Congressional authority. A vetoed item goes back to the legislature for reconsideration just as any vetoed bill. The LIV is used in a number of state governments quite successfully.

As to your assertion that the Founder’s would be concerned about undermining the legislative branch, I am not so certain. They did not consider the 3 branches (or departments in their terms) to be equal. There are frequent warnings not about the growth of an imperial president, but an imperial Congress. The Federalist papers discuss at length the tendancy of elected legislatures to accrue power to themselves at the expense of the other branches.

Throughout the Federalist Papers, just about every imaginable aspect of republican governmant was discussed, and I can’t recall seeing a Line Item Veto mentioned at all. Publius neither suggests it, nor rejects it. I’m not sure anyone at the time thought of it.

The biggest problem is that shot of a constitutional convention, I’, not optimistic about getting a LIV. To pass a law, or amend the constitution would require heavy support in Congress, and the piglets on the Hill will never agree to turn off the money tits.

A LIV certainly would be worth a try, though.

By: RightWingRocker

RightWingRocker — Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:00:48 +0000

How about question #7 …

7. Does the Constitution authorize it?

That’s one I don’t see a lot of people trying to answer.

RWR
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