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3/19/2006
TORTURE ISSUE WILL NOT GO AWAY

So the Abu Ghraib poster boy turns out to be a ringer. And the New York Times in its eagerness to bash the war and the Bush Administration falls for the guy’s carny act hook, line, and sinker and then tries to blame the Administration anyway for not warning them off the story. Of course, that kind of whining brings to mind the efforts of Scooter Libby and Karl Rove in trying to warn the Times and other news organs off the Joe Wilson fantasy. We know how that turned out, don’t we?

But in the end, after giving the New York Times its just helping of crow, what do we have? Is the Abu Ghraib incident and dozens others like it going to disappear into the sort of “non-history” that the left has become famous for? Are we going to pretend they didn’t happen?

The US Army has investigated more than 400 torture allegations. As of today, 24 US military men and women have been convicted of abusing their captives with investigations on going that could up that number considerably. We’re not talking about ACLU fantasies here. These are cases discovered by the military and being investigated by the FBI and military police.

Andrew Sullivan, over the top and hysterical as always, nevertheless makes some salient points:

To recap: we have a president who for the first time decrees that torture and abuse is legal in the U.S. military if “military necessity” allows it; we have White House memos saying that anything short of death and major organ failure cannot be categorized as “torture”; we have “cruel, inhuman and degrading conduct” at Gitmo, conduct that is subsequently declared within military guidelines; we have the head of, in John Podhoretz’s phrase, the “excesses at Gitmo” assigned to Abu Ghraib to “Gitmoize” it; we have an outbreak across every theater of war of brutal torture and abuse practices; and we have what is a clear directive from Washington to get better intelligence on the insurgency – and fast. We now have much clearer evidence of an elite, secret unit setting up what can only be called a torture camp, and no one in authority seems able to put an end to it.

A couple of things about that rant that should be corrected for the record:

  • The memos Sullivan refers to were exploratory in nature and most of the recommendations – including the definition what constituted torture – were not adapted.
  • The “cruel, inhuman and degrading conduct” at Gitmo occurred after the Commander who set up the successful interrogation program at the camp was transferred to Abu Ghraib. In fact, General Geoffrey Miller set up what many consider the most professional interrogation regime in American military history at Guantanamo. It employed “stress techniques” that are recognized around the world as legitimate means to acquire information from military prisoners.

As for the rest, the fact is that there have been 21 cases classified as “homicides” at American detention centers – most of which are still under investigation – as well as the hundreds of reports of routine beatings and other out of bounds actions by interrogators shows that a culture was created where guards and interrogators believed they had leeway to mistreat prisoners.

Sully hits the nail on the head when he lays the blame for the torture directly at the feet of the civilian leadership. Once the insurgency got rolling in Iraq, pressure was applied by the Pentagon to elicit more and more information from prisoners. And with a limited supply of professional interrogators – men and women highly trained to use the stress techniques of physical discomfort in conjunction with psychological pressures – local commanders were forced to rely on less qualified personnel with predictable results; Abu Ghraib and numerous other examples of brutal treatment.

With word that the same unit in charge of interrogations at Abu Ghraib was simply moved down the road and allowed to set up camp elsewhere where they continued to abuse prisoners, we have at the very least the prospect that high ranking members of the military not only approved interrogation techniques totally at odds with the standards set forth in our own military code but also in violation of the Geneva Convention – a standard that President Bush said we should follow in our treatment of prisoners.

I am not one to believe every allegation of mistreatment spouted by lawyers for detainees nor am I inclined to hold military interrogators to standards that we don’t even hold our own police departments to as the ACLU would have it.

But we have to face up to this mess: Torture is being carried out as a matter of military routine and it must stop. This can only happen when we start prosecuting up the chain of command and hold responsible commanders who either look the other way or actually give orders allowing physical brutality.

It may be satisfying to pile on the New York Times for their cluelessness and partisan stupidity. But pointing out the Times’ foibles will not make the issue of prisoner mistreatment go way nor will it redeem our military. Only the application of sensible guidelines on prisoner interrogation and the swift punishment of transgressors can do that.

By: Rick Moran at 8:53 am
4 Responses to “TORTURE ISSUE WILL NOT GO AWAY”
  1. 1
    Barry Said:
    9:58 pm 

    Rick, is there credible evidence of “Torture is being carried out as a matter of military routine and it must stop.”? From Sullivan there is nothing but hysteria and the NYT’s has been known to shade/misqoute/fabricate the story.

    Where do you find the evidence that torture is being used routinely?

  2. 2
    Keith Said:
    11:30 pm 

    I agree with Barry. Where is the proof other than the NY Times that this has actually happened? I don’t think I would call the incidents at Abu Ghraib torture. Humiliation yea, but torture no. Let’s ask John McCain and others of the Vietnam war what torture was. We haven’t cut off anyone’s head have we? That I believe is the ultimate torture. Why don’t you use your energy to try and stop that type of torture.

  3. 3
    scrapiron Said:
    12:01 am 

    The left and the joke of a former MSM are holding on to their only card since their world is fast falling apart. Now we know there was a connection between Saddam and the terrorists prior to 9-11. We know for a fact the Saddam was seeking uranium in Africa and today we got proof that Saddam held 448 captured Kuwaitis for 12 years in violation of all international laws and the so called treaty he signed in 1991. He also ordered that they be removed from prison and used as human shields. All of this information from a few hundred pages of captured documents and there are hundreds of thousands of pages. It was comical to watch them drag out the avowed traitor Turbin Durbin today. What a jerk, he should be dragged out and shot dead. VP Chaney finally laid old drunken Ted out bare a**ed. Even the left wing idiots (liberal arts college graduates no doubt) that think a Mercedes emblem is the peace symbol (shows the effect of liberal controlled education) should be ashamed of these two. I don’t think i’ll watch the news tomorrow, my heart won’t stand much more of the comedy routine of the dim-wits. They have dug a deep hole and are so stupid they’re still digging. You can fool all of the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time, but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time. The wheels are falling off their wagon right now. Nov. will be another massive loss for the dim-wit party.

  4. 4
    Michael L. Cook Said:
    3:23 pm 

    The MSM has been completely unable to mention that not only is Guantanimo not the worst prison in the world with regard to any conception of basic human rights, it is not even the worst prison on the island of Cuba.

    Beyond, that, I anticipate a big release of detainees from Gitmo sometime this summer. Many of them were no doubt clueless hangers on or bystanders of terrorist activities. Those guys will be released and there will not be a lot of new prisoners to take their place because American forces don’t do a lot of patrolling anymore. The Iraqis themselves take a lot of captives and do what they will do with them. Because that is life in Iraq, the level of terrorist activities will be winding down this summer.

    Barring some type of open intervention by Syria or Iran, of course. Those countries will make a big mistake if they mis-read the current American disenchantment with the war as a green signal for a ramped-up offensive.

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