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		<title>By: The Constructivist</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/03/26/politics-and-immigration-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-167026</link>
		<dc:creator>The Constructivist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 06:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Six observations to make:

(1)  Back in 1848 we had a chance to annex Mexico, Polimom--check out John Calhoun's speech from January of that year in which he argued against either annexation or colonialism (before you agree with him too quickly, think about his real reasons for opposing annexation and, be honest, doesn't racism have the teensiest bit to do with it?).

(2)  Check out Thom Hartmann's critique of various liberal takes on illegal immigration over at &lt;a href="http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0329-21.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;Common Dreams&lt;/a&gt;--he's a pro-working class leftist, so don't be too quick to lump liberals and leftists together on immigration issues.  Right wingers, though, won't like his solutions.

(3)  Matthew Frye Jacobson in &lt;i&gt;Whiteness of a Different Color&lt;/i&gt; points out exactly how racialized the immigration debates in the late 19th and early 20th C were.  Before you pooh-pooh the idea that racialization of "Celts," "Slavs," and "Alpines" has nothing to do with how the nativist right profiles Latinos, or how the threat from Latino immigration is &lt;i&gt;so&lt;/i&gt; different than last century's racism against "other white races," I'd suggest you actually read Jacobson's well-researched and well-written study (Hartmann should, as well).

(4)  Back in 1994, Leslie Marmon Silko warned against the U.S. becoming a "border patrol state."  Check out Tram Nguyen's &lt;i&gt;We Are All Suspects Now&lt;/i&gt; or David Cole's &lt;i&gt;Enemy Aliens&lt;/i&gt; for a portrait any libertarian should find worrying.  

(5) Why is it that small-government conservatives are usually fine with free flows of capital and commodities but not with people or labor?  What happened to the '90s confidence that the invisible hand of the market would make government obsolete in a kind of capitalist revolution?  What happened to the celebrations of capitalism's powers of creative destruction?

(6)  Immigration raises tough issues that every wealthier nation in the world has to confront.  Snap judgments, hysteria, and paranoia don't do anyone any good.  This site is more thoughtful than most, but still doesn't get to the heart of the problem.  Corey Robin's review essay in the April 10 issues of &lt;i&gt;The Nation&lt;/i&gt; gets into some of these complexities.  Have yet to see a conservative version as well researched and well-argued.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Six observations to make:</p>
<p>(1)  Back in 1848 we had a chance to annex Mexico, Polimom&#8211;check out John Calhoun&#8217;s speech from January of that year in which he argued against either annexation or colonialism (before you agree with him too quickly, think about his real reasons for opposing annexation and, be honest, doesn&#8217;t racism have the teensiest bit to do with it?).</p>
<p>(2)  Check out Thom Hartmann&#8217;s critique of various liberal takes on illegal immigration over at <a href="http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0329-21.htm" rel="nofollow">Common Dreams</a>&#8211;he&#8217;s a pro-working class leftist, so don&#8217;t be too quick to lump liberals and leftists together on immigration issues.  Right wingers, though, won&#8217;t like his solutions.</p>
<p>(3)  Matthew Frye Jacobson in <i>Whiteness of a Different Color</i> points out exactly how racialized the immigration debates in the late 19th and early 20th C were.  Before you pooh-pooh the idea that racialization of &#8220;Celts,&#8221; &#8220;Slavs,&#8221; and &#8220;Alpines&#8221; has nothing to do with how the nativist right profiles Latinos, or how the threat from Latino immigration is <i>so</i> different than last century&#8217;s racism against &#8220;other white races,&#8221; I&#8217;d suggest you actually read Jacobson&#8217;s well-researched and well-written study (Hartmann should, as well).</p>
<p>(4)  Back in 1994, Leslie Marmon Silko warned against the U.S. becoming a &#8220;border patrol state.&#8221;  Check out Tram Nguyen&#8217;s <i>We Are All Suspects Now</i> or David Cole&#8217;s <i>Enemy Aliens</i> for a portrait any libertarian should find worrying.  </p>
<p>(5) Why is it that small-government conservatives are usually fine with free flows of capital and commodities but not with people or labor?  What happened to the &#8217;90s confidence that the invisible hand of the market would make government obsolete in a kind of capitalist revolution?  What happened to the celebrations of capitalism&#8217;s powers of creative destruction?</p>
<p>(6)  Immigration raises tough issues that every wealthier nation in the world has to confront.  Snap judgments, hysteria, and paranoia don&#8217;t do anyone any good.  This site is more thoughtful than most, but still doesn&#8217;t get to the heart of the problem.  Corey Robin&#8217;s review essay in the April 10 issues of <i>The Nation</i> gets into some of these complexities.  Have yet to see a conservative version as well researched and well-argued.</p>
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		<title>By: class-factotum</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/03/26/politics-and-immigration-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-165074</link>
		<dc:creator>class-factotum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 00:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"a support system has grown up around the idea that people here illegally should be coddled and stroked, largely for their votes"

Where exactly are illegal aliens voting? That's even more disturbing than the fact that they are here! Voting is a privilege and a responsibility of citizenship. Illegal aliens should not be voting AT ALL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;a support system has grown up around the idea that people here illegally should be coddled and stroked, largely for their votes&#8221;</p>
<p>Where exactly are illegal aliens voting? That&#8217;s even more disturbing than the fact that they are here! Voting is a privilege and a responsibility of citizenship. Illegal aliens should not be voting AT ALL.</p>
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		<title>By: Joust The Facts</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/03/26/politics-and-immigration-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-164816</link>
		<dc:creator>Joust The Facts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 02:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Furtive Glances: The Post-Upset Upset Edition&lt;/strong&gt;

Okay, so I'm a UConn fan, and I'm upset today. The tournament was shaping up as Connecticut's to win, if only they could play just a little defense for five minutes. But no, it was not to be for the</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Furtive Glances: The Post-Upset Upset Edition</strong></p>
<p>Okay, so I&#8217;m a UConn fan, and I&#8217;m upset today. The tournament was shaping up as Connecticut&#8217;s to win, if only they could play just a little defense for five minutes. But no, it was not to be for the</p>
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		<title>By: Scrapiron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scrapiron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope the criminals continue to march in the streets. I had to attend a couple of meetings today that consisted of people from both parties + several independants. Guess what? Each and every person there made comments that really meant, grab them by the seat of the pants and throw them back across the border. Based on the 30+ people today i'd predict that they made millions of enemies in the base voters of America that were once willing to overlook the criminals. A few more freak ahows (like this weekend) organized by the socialist/communist party and they will find the welcome mat removed for good. Best thing to happen in years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope the criminals continue to march in the streets. I had to attend a couple of meetings today that consisted of people from both parties + several independants. Guess what? Each and every person there made comments that really meant, grab them by the seat of the pants and throw them back across the border. Based on the 30+ people today i&#8217;d predict that they made millions of enemies in the base voters of America that were once willing to overlook the criminals. A few more freak ahows (like this weekend) organized by the socialist/communist party and they will find the welcome mat removed for good. Best thing to happen in years.</p>
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		<title>By: Paramendra Bhagat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paramendra Bhagat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://democracyforum.blogspot.com/2006/03/bill-frists-ancestors-came-from-moon.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Bill Frist's Ancestors Came From The Moon&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://democracyforum.blogspot.com/2006/03/bill-frists-ancestors-came-from-moon.html" rel="nofollow">Bill Frist&#8217;s Ancestors Came From The Moon</a></p>
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		<title>By: bird dog</title>
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		<dc:creator>bird dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent essay.
Linked it this afternoon, with brief comments on this headache of a subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent essay.<br />
Linked it this afternoon, with brief comments on this headache of a subject.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie's Farm</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/03/26/politics-and-immigration-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-164244</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggie's Farm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Unemotional on Illegal Immigration&lt;/strong&gt;

It gives me a migraine to think about the illegal immigration issue, but I think I understand what is going on.My view is simple. Our representatives make immigration laws that hopefully serve the nation and reflect the feelings of the people. People who </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Unemotional on Illegal Immigration</strong></p>
<p>It gives me a migraine to think about the illegal immigration issue, but I think I understand what is going on.My view is simple. Our representatives make immigration laws that hopefully serve the nation and reflect the feelings of the people. People who</p>
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		<title>By: A CERTAIN SLANT OF LIGHT &#187; WHY ARE PEOPLE HERE ILLEGALLY TO BECOME &#8220;GUESTS&#8221; IF PRESIDENT BUSH HAS HIS WAY?</title>
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		<dc:creator>A CERTAIN SLANT OF LIGHT &#187; WHY ARE PEOPLE HERE ILLEGALLY TO BECOME &#8220;GUESTS&#8221; IF PRESIDENT BUSH HAS HIS WAY?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] FOLLOW-UP: I highly recommend this post at Rightwing Nuthouse, as well as this Op-Ed piece by Kathleen Parker, published in today&#8217;s edition of the Houston Chronicle. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] FOLLOW-UP: I highly recommend this post at Rightwing Nuthouse, as well as this Op-Ed piece by Kathleen Parker, published in today&#8217;s edition of the Houston Chronicle. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Polimom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polimom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's a clear indication of how divisive an issue is when, in the space of only four comments (as I write this), both sides are bitterly and rigidly represented.

I think we're overlooking a moderate (and in hindsight, obvious) solution:  just annex Mexico.  This would eliminate the criminals / illegals - so the right can sleep without fear, and provide automatic access to the American dream (or at least the attempt) - which will soothe the left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a clear indication of how divisive an issue is when, in the space of only four comments (as I write this), both sides are bitterly and rigidly represented.</p>
<p>I think we&#8217;re overlooking a moderate (and in hindsight, obvious) solution:  just annex Mexico.  This would eliminate the criminals / illegals - so the right can sleep without fear, and provide automatic access to the American dream (or at least the attempt) - which will soothe the left.</p>
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		<title>By: PghMike</title>
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		<dc:creator>PghMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I almost never agree with anything published on this web site, I agree that a guest worker program is a moronic idea.  The last thing this country needs is a pool of tens of millions of people within the country locked out of any participation, or hope of participation, in the American dream.  If you're living and working in this country, you should be a citizen, or at least have the option of moving towards citizenship.  And at some point, you should become a citizen or leave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I almost never agree with anything published on this web site, I agree that a guest worker program is a moronic idea.  The last thing this country needs is a pool of tens of millions of people within the country locked out of any participation, or hope of participation, in the American dream.  If you&#8217;re living and working in this country, you should be a citizen, or at least have the option of moving towards citizenship.  And at some point, you should become a citizen or leave.</p>
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