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	<title>Comments on: IMAGE IS SUBSTANCE IN IMMIGRATION DEBATE</title>
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		<title>By: gil</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/03/30/image-is-substance-in-immigration-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-166420</link>
		<dc:creator>gil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2006 00:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kender.

The "treaty" of Guadalupe-Hidalgo came after a war that Mexico Lost. The so called treaty was signed while American troops were in Mexico City.
To believe that Mexico went to war with the U.S.A. on border disputes including Texas, only to give half their country after they lost the war, because they needed 15 million dollars is idiotic.
As for the Muslims reclaiming back their land, last I checked the Muslims invaded Spain, and were trown out. You comparison does not hold water.</description>
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<p>The &#8220;treaty&#8221; of Guadalupe-Hidalgo came after a war that Mexico Lost. The so called treaty was signed while American troops were in Mexico City.<br />
To believe that Mexico went to war with the U.S.A. on border disputes including Texas, only to give half their country after they lost the war, because they needed 15 million dollars is idiotic.<br />
As for the Muslims reclaiming back their land, last I checked the Muslims invaded Spain, and were trown out. You comparison does not hold water.</p>
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		<title>By: Gayle Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gayle Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 20:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, for what it's worth, I'm planning to move to Mexico when I retire.  So that'll make a teensy bit more room!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, for what it&#8217;s worth, I&#8217;m planning to move to Mexico when I retire.  So that&#8217;ll make a teensy bit more room!</p>
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		<title>By: Svenghouli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Svenghouli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 09:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are the illegal aliens in this company? Supply and Demand. By saving money on cheaper illegal wages, companies can continue to maintain lower prices. Why do you think Wal-Mart can keep its prices so low? Hell, they have branched out to provide cheaper luxary items. The real question is how much do we save as consumers compared to the amount of money we lose as taxpayers paying for public services that illegal immigrants use? That there is the answer to the question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are the illegal aliens in this company? Supply and Demand. By saving money on cheaper illegal wages, companies can continue to maintain lower prices. Why do you think Wal-Mart can keep its prices so low? Hell, they have branched out to provide cheaper luxary items. The real question is how much do we save as consumers compared to the amount of money we lose as taxpayers paying for public services that illegal immigrants use? That there is the answer to the question.</p>
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		<title>By: kender</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/03/30/image-is-substance-in-immigration-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-165830</link>
		<dc:creator>kender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 00:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hector, mexico lost all claims to certain lands in the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo...along with the land they lost were lands seized by governments during that time.

They lost the lands due to the law.  They have no more hope of stealing back the land than the muslims have of reclaiming spain....actually they have less hope of getting back lands they lost than the muslims have of reclaiming spain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hector, mexico lost all claims to certain lands in the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo&#8230;along with the land they lost were lands seized by governments during that time.</p>
<p>They lost the lands due to the law.  They have no more hope of stealing back the land than the muslims have of reclaiming spain&#8230;.actually they have less hope of getting back lands they lost than the muslims have of reclaiming spain.</p>
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		<title>By: And Rightly So! &#187; The Mexican States of America</title>
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		<dc:creator>And Rightly So! &#187; The Mexican States of America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 23:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rick: Anyone who doesnâ€™t think that this aspect of illegal immigration doesnâ€™t have consequences I would direct your gaze to the picture above of the upside down American flag being deliberately flown below the flag of Mexico. Is anyone seriously making the argument that this one image, so wrenching in its implications for our future, doesnâ€™t accurately reflect the feelings of those children, most of whom are citizens? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Rick: Anyone who doesnâ€™t think that this aspect of illegal immigration doesnâ€™t have consequences I would direct your gaze to the picture above of the upside down American flag being deliberately flown below the flag of Mexico. Is anyone seriously making the argument that this one image, so wrenching in its implications for our future, doesnâ€™t accurately reflect the feelings of those children, most of whom are citizens? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Gillnitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Gillnitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm suspicious of the sudden hysteria over immigration. It isn't like this subject just showed up on our nation's doorstep. Hell, Regean signed a huge amnesty program in 1986. Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 (IRCA) (Public Law 99-603).

More likely, this is an issue intended to distract from the growing unpopularity of the war, the budget deficit, the trade deficit, and the massive increase in the size of government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m suspicious of the sudden hysteria over immigration. It isn&#8217;t like this subject just showed up on our nation&#8217;s doorstep. Hell, Regean signed a huge amnesty program in 1986. Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 (IRCA) (Public Law 99-603).</p>
<p>More likely, this is an issue intended to distract from the growing unpopularity of the war, the budget deficit, the trade deficit, and the massive increase in the size of government.</p>
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		<title>By: Hector</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember a trip to Mexico City in which I had a conversation with a Mexican taxicab driver.  He informed me that the biggest mistake the United States ever made was to stop at the Rio Grande during the Mexican-American war.  As long as the United States remains a vibrant economic powerhouse with opportunity and the Mexican political (corrupt)and economic situation stay the same, Persons from Mexico (and the rest of Latin America for that matter) will always wander north in search of the Promised Land.  No fence will stop them and there is no political will to do so.  If the U.S. really wanted to stop immigration at the border, due to the large border (and difficult terrain) that will result in the need to bring the military to bear on the problem, however, look where the vast majority of military bases are located; in the heart land (not strategic)of the United States.  You would need to move them to border states.  However, what Senator and Congressman, willing to actually do something about illegal immigration, will also be willing to give up the thousands of jobs and economic infrastructure which springs up around a military base, especially if the base is in his home state or district.  It is already a major congressional battle to close a obsolete military base let alone a vibrant and large base with thousands of active troops that attract business and therefore jobs.

Onto another issue, you discuss the lack of cultural assimilation by new immigrants, either legal or illegal.  It is my humble opinion, having seen this first hand, that while the first or maybe even thesecond generation of these immigrants are not making the move to assimilate or even learn English, you will find that the second, but definatly the third generation are doing so.  I suspect, the vast majority of the young who attended these vast rallies where there for the day off from school.  

Lastly, just because the thought of persons frothing at the mouth amuses me, you might be interested to know that there are major lawsuits occuring in the border states where Mexican families are pursuing class lawsuits to have the lands taken from their families long ago returned to them.  Southwestern Texas ranches are under assault as well as Padre Island, Texas and even the famous King Ranch.  I also recall reading about lawsuits occuring in Arizona and New Mexico.  Makes one shudder to think what judge is sitting on the bench of those lawsuits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember a trip to Mexico City in which I had a conversation with a Mexican taxicab driver.  He informed me that the biggest mistake the United States ever made was to stop at the Rio Grande during the Mexican-American war.  As long as the United States remains a vibrant economic powerhouse with opportunity and the Mexican political (corrupt)and economic situation stay the same, Persons from Mexico (and the rest of Latin America for that matter) will always wander north in search of the Promised Land.  No fence will stop them and there is no political will to do so.  If the U.S. really wanted to stop immigration at the border, due to the large border (and difficult terrain) that will result in the need to bring the military to bear on the problem, however, look where the vast majority of military bases are located; in the heart land (not strategic)of the United States.  You would need to move them to border states.  However, what Senator and Congressman, willing to actually do something about illegal immigration, will also be willing to give up the thousands of jobs and economic infrastructure which springs up around a military base, especially if the base is in his home state or district.  It is already a major congressional battle to close a obsolete military base let alone a vibrant and large base with thousands of active troops that attract business and therefore jobs.</p>
<p>Onto another issue, you discuss the lack of cultural assimilation by new immigrants, either legal or illegal.  It is my humble opinion, having seen this first hand, that while the first or maybe even thesecond generation of these immigrants are not making the move to assimilate or even learn English, you will find that the second, but definatly the third generation are doing so.  I suspect, the vast majority of the young who attended these vast rallies where there for the day off from school.  </p>
<p>Lastly, just because the thought of persons frothing at the mouth amuses me, you might be interested to know that there are major lawsuits occuring in the border states where Mexican families are pursuing class lawsuits to have the lands taken from their families long ago returned to them.  Southwestern Texas ranches are under assault as well as Padre Island, Texas and even the famous King Ranch.  I also recall reading about lawsuits occuring in Arizona and New Mexico.  Makes one shudder to think what judge is sitting on the bench of those lawsuits.</p>
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		<title>By: madmatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>madmatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, thank god we have solved that pesky racism problem here in the US...I must of missed that announcement on FOX!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, thank god we have solved that pesky racism problem here in the US&#8230;I must of missed that announcement on FOX!</p>
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		<title>By: California Conservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>California Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Is It &#8216;Amnesty&#8217; or &#8216;Earned Citizenship&#8217;?&lt;/strong&gt;

	Or neither. That&#8217;s our position.
	S.F. Chronicle reports: &#8220;The immigration debate roiling the Senate and the country often boils down to one charged word: amnesty.&#8221;
	It is brandished like a loaded gun by opponents of expanded legal i...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Is It &#8216;Amnesty&#8217; or &#8216;Earned Citizenship&#8217;?</strong></p>
<p>	Or neither. That&#8217;s our position.<br />
	S.F. Chronicle reports: &#8220;The immigration debate roiling the Senate and the country often boils down to one charged word: amnesty.&#8221;<br />
	It is brandished like a loaded gun by opponents of expanded legal i&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: All Things Beautiful</title>
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		<dc:creator>All Things Beautiful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;A Chance For A Better Life&lt;/strong&gt;

This is a tough issue, emotionally charged for some, irrelevant to others and an excuse for the remainder to eagerly pull out the racism card...NYT is worried about the GOP loosing the Hispanic vote. Tom Maguire is not impressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>A Chance For A Better Life</strong></p>
<p>This is a tough issue, emotionally charged for some, irrelevant to others and an excuse for the remainder to eagerly pull out the racism card&#8230;NYT is worried about the GOP loosing the Hispanic vote. Tom Maguire is not impressed.</p>
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