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		<title>By: nikko</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/04/17/more-anger-and-despair-from-the-left/comment-page-1/#comment-173399</link>
		<dc:creator>nikko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2006 04:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, there just has to be a civil war in Iraq. There just has to be, we know it.

Sincerely,
The American Left</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, there just has to be a civil war in Iraq. There just has to be, we know it.</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
The American Left</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Moran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Moran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2006 03:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did people predict that bad things would happen if we invaded?

Absolutely. Only problem is - if you can believe it - the predictions were actually worse than the mess we have today.

If you read this blog at all, you know that I am not a cheerleader of this war. I have been brutal in my criticism of Rumsfeld and Bush in the prosecution of this war - especially in the lastyear.

That said, I documented no less than 7 times since the invasion that lefty blogs and the MSM said that civil war was right around the corner. It took the bombing of the Samarra shrine to set off the kind of violence that has "extra judicial" execution style deaths prevelant.

The point is that the massive refugees predicted never materialized. The starvation and disease predictions never materialized. The massive insurgency never materialized. The popularity of al Qaeda is at an all time low in the arab and muslim world. The stop-start-stop of political reform in Iraq is nevertheless moving slowly forward (read Jim Holstein's piece on strategy page about the difficulty of the Iraqis in understanding the concept of sharing power and you'll understand why it's taking so long to form a government.

The fact is "nightmare" was a ridiculous description of Iraq.

And what about the nightmares predicted about other terrorist attacks in the US? Nada. Zip. Zero.

Try again, Cat...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did people predict that bad things would happen if we invaded?</p>
<p>Absolutely. Only problem is - if you can believe it - the predictions were actually worse than the mess we have today.</p>
<p>If you read this blog at all, you know that I am not a cheerleader of this war. I have been brutal in my criticism of Rumsfeld and Bush in the prosecution of this war - especially in the lastyear.</p>
<p>That said, I documented no less than 7 times since the invasion that lefty blogs and the MSM said that civil war was right around the corner. It took the bombing of the Samarra shrine to set off the kind of violence that has &#8220;extra judicial&#8221; execution style deaths prevelant.</p>
<p>The point is that the massive refugees predicted never materialized. The starvation and disease predictions never materialized. The massive insurgency never materialized. The popularity of al Qaeda is at an all time low in the arab and muslim world. The stop-start-stop of political reform in Iraq is nevertheless moving slowly forward (read Jim Holstein&#8217;s piece on strategy page about the difficulty of the Iraqis in understanding the concept of sharing power and you&#8217;ll understand why it&#8217;s taking so long to form a government.</p>
<p>The fact is &#8220;nightmare&#8221; was a ridiculous description of Iraq.</p>
<p>And what about the nightmares predicted about other terrorist attacks in the US? Nada. Zip. Zero.</p>
<p>Try again, Cat&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Moran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Moran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2006 03:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cat:

Duh...yeah. Uh huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cat:</p>
<p>Duh&#8230;yeah. Uh huh.</p>
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		<title>By: Joust The Facts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joust The Facts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2006 03:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Furtive Glances - Patriots Day Edition&lt;/strong&gt;

Patriots Day is a curious Massachusetts only holiday, which I think was invented to prevent government employees from having to cope with Boston Marathon traffic and crowds. Nonetheless, it is a fun day, and as some choice tickets for the</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Furtive Glances - Patriots Day Edition</strong></p>
<p>Patriots Day is a curious Massachusetts only holiday, which I think was invented to prevent government employees from having to cope with Boston Marathon traffic and crowds. Nonetheless, it is a fun day, and as some choice tickets for the</p>
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		<title>By: Cat's Yawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cat's Yawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2006 03:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Sanity? You're not too interested in preserving your own credibility, huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Sanity? You&#8217;re not too interested in preserving your own credibility, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Kogo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kogo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2006 02:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick,
1) "which nightmares are Carroll talking about"?
Perhaps these:
&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;Gangs 'kill freely' in Iraq chaos
Hundreds of bodies showing signs of torture or execution arrive at the Baghdad mortuary each month, a senior UN official has told the BBC. 
John Pace, until recently UN human rights chief in Iraq, told the BBC News website that up to 75% of the corpses showed signs of extrajudicial death. 

Mr Pace blamed an "endemic" breakdown of security for increasing violence. 

"Anyone with a gun who is reasonably well organised can do whatever they want with impunity," he said

&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;According to a report by the International Crisis Group (PDF), power is concentrated in the hands of parties that have militias. "With no central apparatus that can rely on its own nonpartisan security forces to stand in the way of parties and militias holding ethnic, sectarian and even separatist agendas, the most likely outcome is the gradual erosion or perhaps disintegration of the state," the report said.

And you also ask: 2) who did the warning?
 
&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;WASHINGTON, Sept. 27 - The same intelligence unit that produced a gloomy report in July about the prospect of growing instability in Iraq warned the Bush administration about the potential costly consequences of an American-led invasion two months before the war began, government officials said Monday.
The estimate came in two classified reports prepared for President Bush in January 2003 by the National Intelligence Council, an independent group that advises the director. The Bush administration disregarded intelligence reports two months before the invasion of Iraq which warned that a war could unleash a violent insurgency and rising anti-US sentiment in the Middle East, it emerged yesterday. 
 The assessments predicted that an American-led invasion of Iraq would increase support for political Islam and would result in a deeply divided Iraqi society prone to violent internal conflict that could decend into civil war.
&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;Tony Blair was warned a year before invading Iraq that a stable post-war government would be impossible without keeping large numbers of troops there for "many years", secret government papers reveal. 
The documents, seen by The Telegraph, show more clearly than ever the grave reservations expressed by Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, over the consequences of a second Gulf war and how prescient his Foreign Office officials were in predicting the ensuing chaos. 
.

I hope this helps,
Best regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick,<br />
1) &#8220;which nightmares are Carroll talking about&#8221;?<br />
Perhaps these:<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Gangs &#8216;kill freely&#8217; in Iraq chaos<br />
Hundreds of bodies showing signs of torture or execution arrive at the Baghdad mortuary each month, a senior UN official has told the BBC.<br />
John Pace, until recently UN human rights chief in Iraq, told the BBC News website that up to 75% of the corpses showed signs of extrajudicial death. </p>
<p>Mr Pace blamed an &#8220;endemic&#8221; breakdown of security for increasing violence. </p>
<p>&#8220;Anyone with a gun who is reasonably well organised can do whatever they want with impunity,&#8221; he said</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;According to a report by the International Crisis Group (PDF), power is concentrated in the hands of parties that have militias. &#8220;With no central apparatus that can rely on its own nonpartisan security forces to stand in the way of parties and militias holding ethnic, sectarian and even separatist agendas, the most likely outcome is the gradual erosion or perhaps disintegration of the state,&#8221; the report said.</p>
<p>And you also ask: 2) who did the warning?</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;WASHINGTON, Sept. 27 - The same intelligence unit that produced a gloomy report in July about the prospect of growing instability in Iraq warned the Bush administration about the potential costly consequences of an American-led invasion two months before the war began, government officials said Monday.<br />
The estimate came in two classified reports prepared for President Bush in January 2003 by the National Intelligence Council, an independent group that advises the director. The Bush administration disregarded intelligence reports two months before the invasion of Iraq which warned that a war could unleash a violent insurgency and rising anti-US sentiment in the Middle East, it emerged yesterday.<br />
 The assessments predicted that an American-led invasion of Iraq would increase support for political Islam and would result in a deeply divided Iraqi society prone to violent internal conflict that could decend into civil war.<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Tony Blair was warned a year before invading Iraq that a stable post-war government would be impossible without keeping large numbers of troops there for &#8220;many years&#8221;, secret government papers reveal.<br />
The documents, seen by The Telegraph, show more clearly than ever the grave reservations expressed by Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, over the consequences of a second Gulf war and how prescient his Foreign Office officials were in predicting the ensuing chaos.<br />
.</p>
<p>I hope this helps,<br />
Best regards</p>
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		<title>By: Scrapiron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scrapiron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2006 01:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Media wanna be hero types write this drivel since they know that almost half of the population is too stupid to figure out their lies and take what the 'news reporters' say as truth. I take 99% of what the antique media put out as lies, leaving the comic strips to make up the 100%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Media wanna be hero types write this drivel since they know that almost half of the population is too stupid to figure out their lies and take what the &#8216;news reporters&#8217; say as truth. I take 99% of what the antique media put out as lies, leaving the comic strips to make up the 100%.</p>
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		<title>By: Sweetie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sweetie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2006 23:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if this guy is related to Jon Carroll at the San Francisco Chronicle.  A few months ago a religious group paid to put up anti-abortion posters on the Bart public transportation system.  These posters were - it is the Bay Area afterall - mostly defaced.  Jon Carroll wrote a column where he described similar defacement activities he did as a kid and pronounced himself as agnostic on the issue - neither for or against defacing speech you disagree with.  Yes, this is a newspaper columnist that is okay with the concept of blocking speech if someone disagrees with it.  Fascism has quite the future in San Francisco.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if this guy is related to Jon Carroll at the San Francisco Chronicle.  A few months ago a religious group paid to put up anti-abortion posters on the Bart public transportation system.  These posters were - it is the Bay Area afterall - mostly defaced.  Jon Carroll wrote a column where he described similar defacement activities he did as a kid and pronounced himself as agnostic on the issue - neither for or against defacing speech you disagree with.  Yes, this is a newspaper columnist that is okay with the concept of blocking speech if someone disagrees with it.  Fascism has quite the future in San Francisco.</p>
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