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		<title>By: Right Wing Nut House &#187; CIA VS. THE WHITE HOUSE: GUESS WHICH SIDE THE PRESS IS ON?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Right Wing Nut House &#187; CIA VS. THE WHITE HOUSE: GUESS WHICH SIDE THE PRESS IS ON?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] VINCE AUT MORIRE VODKAPUNDIT WALLO WORLD WHAT ATTITUDE PROBLEM? WIDE AWAKES WIZBANG WUZZADEM   CIA VS. THE WHITE HOUSE: GUESS WHICH SIDE THE PRESS IS ON? CIA VS. THE WHITE HOUSE: 3 SIDES OF THE SAME COIN CIA VS. THE WHITE HOUSE: THE VIPS CONNECTION THEOTHER SHOE DROPS CIA VS. THE WHITE HOUSE: TY COBB AIN&#8217;T NO BENCHWARMER CIA VS. THE WHITE HOUSE: THE BIRD THAT ISN&#8217;T SINGING EAT YOUR HEART OUT CINDY SHEEHAN DEFEND DISSENT: PUNISH THE LEAKERS CIA VS. THE WHITE HOUSE: McCARTHY AND THE DC REVOLVING DOOR  CIA VS THE WHITE HOUSE: THE LONE PARTISAN?  CIA VS. THE WHITE HOUSE: PROCEED WITH EXTREME CAUTION CIA VS. THE WHITE HOUSE: WALKING BACK SLOWLY CIA VS. THE WHITE HOUSE: GOOD LEAKS OR BAD? CIA VS. THE WHITE HOUSE: THE LEAKER AND THE SQUEALER ARE YOU &#8220;OVER&#8221; 9/11 YET? CARNIVAL OF THE CLUELESS #41 THE COUNCIL HAS SPOKEN JOKE OF THE DAY ANOTHER MORAN TAKES UP THE PEN A DASTARDLY DEED J&#8217;ACCUSE: BERNSTEIN MAKES A SERIOUS CASE FOR IMPEACHMENT HARDBALL MORE &#8220;ANGER AND DESPAIR&#8221; FROM THE LEFT ALL POLITICS ARE LOCAL? DON&#8217;T TELL THE DEMS THAT &#8220;STAY AT HOME&#8221; REPUBLICANS   &#8220;24&#8243; (55) ABLE DANGER (10) Bird Flu (5) Blogging (80) Books (7) CARNIVAL OF THE CLUELESS (66) CHICAGO BEARS (9) CIA VS. THE WHITE HOUSE (19) Cindy Sheehan (12) Ethics (53) General (273) Government (32) History (51) IMMIGRATION REFORM (5) Iran (20) KATRINA (26) Katrina Timeline (4) Marvin Moonbat (14) Media (77) Middle East (24) Moonbats (45) Open House (1) Politics (164) Science (14) Space (12) Supreme Court (19) War on Terror (105) WATCHER&#8217;S COUNCIL (41) WORLD POLITICS (39) WORLD SERIES (14)   Admin Login Register Valid XHTML XFN [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] VINCE AUT MORIRE VODKAPUNDIT WALLO WORLD WHAT ATTITUDE PROBLEM? WIDE AWAKES WIZBANG WUZZADEM   CIA VS. THE WHITE HOUSE: GUESS WHICH SIDE THE PRESS IS ON? CIA VS. THE WHITE HOUSE: 3 SIDES OF THE SAME COIN CIA VS. THE WHITE HOUSE: THE VIPS CONNECTION THEOTHER SHOE DROPS CIA VS. THE WHITE HOUSE: TY COBB AIN&#8217;T NO BENCHWARMER CIA VS. THE WHITE HOUSE: THE BIRD THAT ISN&#8217;T SINGING EAT YOUR HEART OUT CINDY SHEEHAN DEFEND DISSENT: PUNISH THE LEAKERS CIA VS. THE WHITE HOUSE: McCARTHY AND THE DC REVOLVING DOOR  CIA VS THE WHITE HOUSE: THE LONE PARTISAN?  CIA VS. THE WHITE HOUSE: PROCEED WITH EXTREME CAUTION CIA VS. THE WHITE HOUSE: WALKING BACK SLOWLY CIA VS. THE WHITE HOUSE: GOOD LEAKS OR BAD? CIA VS. THE WHITE HOUSE: THE LEAKER AND THE SQUEALER ARE YOU &#8220;OVER&#8221; 9/11 YET? CARNIVAL OF THE CLUELESS #41 THE COUNCIL HAS SPOKEN JOKE OF THE DAY ANOTHER MORAN TAKES UP THE PEN A DASTARDLY DEED J&#8217;ACCUSE: BERNSTEIN MAKES A SERIOUS CASE FOR IMPEACHMENT HARDBALL MORE &#8220;ANGER AND DESPAIR&#8221; FROM THE LEFT ALL POLITICS ARE LOCAL? DON&#8217;T TELL THE DEMS THAT &#8220;STAY AT HOME&#8221; REPUBLICANS   &#8220;24&#8243; (55) ABLE DANGER (10) Bird Flu (5) Blogging (80) Books (7) CARNIVAL OF THE CLUELESS (66) CHICAGO BEARS (9) CIA VS. THE WHITE HOUSE (19) Cindy Sheehan (12) Ethics (53) General (273) Government (32) History (51) IMMIGRATION REFORM (5) Iran (20) KATRINA (26) Katrina Timeline (4) Marvin Moonbat (14) Media (77) Middle East (24) Moonbats (45) Open House (1) Politics (164) Science (14) Space (12) Supreme Court (19) War on Terror (105) WATCHER&#8217;S COUNCIL (41) WORLD POLITICS (39) WORLD SERIES (14)   Admin Login Register Valid XHTML XFN [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Noelie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noelie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2006 16:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So let me get it stragiht Tano, you honestly think the MSM tell the truth??

And people have said I am naive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So let me get it stragiht Tano, you honestly think the MSM tell the truth??</p>
<p>And people have said I am naive.</p>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2006 03:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and BTW, on a different topic - this is the exact same attitude the Bushies have toward other issues - like science. They are not interested in assessing the state of the science on any matter upon which they need to make a decision. They make the decision first, on political or ideological grounds, then they mine the scientific literature to find morsels of evidence that can support their agenda. Any other evidence that might lead one to a different conclusion is ignored, even if it represents the overwhelming majority opinion in the scientific community.

It is the attitude of the lawyer, mixed with the ideologue - lawyers have no interest in presenting the truth - their interest is in presenting the strongest case for thier client. Let the other side find the contrary evidence, if they can. Apply this to science, or to intellegence, and you get the results we see. 

Yes there is enormous disgust with this administration in the eyes of professionals of all stripes - for this administration is ideological, thoroughly dishonest, and has no interest in, or regard for the truth of any situation. 

If you had any respect for honesty and the right of the people to know the truth, you would stand with those who attempt to tell the truth, and to do their jobs with integrity, rather than to participate in these attempts to bully people into submitting to ideological agendas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and BTW, on a different topic - this is the exact same attitude the Bushies have toward other issues - like science. They are not interested in assessing the state of the science on any matter upon which they need to make a decision. They make the decision first, on political or ideological grounds, then they mine the scientific literature to find morsels of evidence that can support their agenda. Any other evidence that might lead one to a different conclusion is ignored, even if it represents the overwhelming majority opinion in the scientific community.</p>
<p>It is the attitude of the lawyer, mixed with the ideologue - lawyers have no interest in presenting the truth - their interest is in presenting the strongest case for thier client. Let the other side find the contrary evidence, if they can. Apply this to science, or to intellegence, and you get the results we see. </p>
<p>Yes there is enormous disgust with this administration in the eyes of professionals of all stripes - for this administration is ideological, thoroughly dishonest, and has no interest in, or regard for the truth of any situation. </p>
<p>If you had any respect for honesty and the right of the people to know the truth, you would stand with those who attempt to tell the truth, and to do their jobs with integrity, rather than to participate in these attempts to bully people into submitting to ideological agendas.</p>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2006 03:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this is crazy stuff.

"In their overarching hubris, believing themselves to be the gatekeepers of information to the American public as well as the watchdogs of the republic,"

Gatekeepers of information? What nonsense is that? Gatekeepers keep information inside the gates. Your whole beef with the media is that they are disseminating information that the government is trying to keep inside the gates. As for watchdogs, well they are.

"they constantly forget that they are first, last, and always citizens of the United States and that when the President takes the country to war, it should be he that decides war policy not them."

What bullshit. We the people decide everything. Its our country, not the presidents. He works for us. What kind of an authoritarian attiutude have you developed in your old age?

"in actuality, they were usually acting on what they believed were the summary beliefs of our intelligence community"

Get real. You can't really beleive that, can you? These people made it very plain that they wanted a war with Iraq years before they even took office. After 9/11, it is dead obvious that they decided to use that situation to convince the country to go to war. The intellegence was mined specifically for any thing of value that could be used to support their case. They had no interest whatsoever in evidence that could undermine their case. Because they had no interest whatsoever in making a wise, informed decision - their decision had been already made.

If you can't understand that, you must be playing with far less than half a deck.

"thatâ€™s what the war between the White House and the CIA is all about; the belief by some at the CIA that the wrong man is President of the United States"

Yeah right. Lets try and guess the partisan makeup of the intellegence community (80% of which is in DOD). The Bush administration war on the intellegence community has always been about the simple fact that the intel mission is to provide accurate intellegence, and the Bush administration wanted only evidence to support their agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this is crazy stuff.</p>
<p>&#8220;In their overarching hubris, believing themselves to be the gatekeepers of information to the American public as well as the watchdogs of the republic,&#8221;</p>
<p>Gatekeepers of information? What nonsense is that? Gatekeepers keep information inside the gates. Your whole beef with the media is that they are disseminating information that the government is trying to keep inside the gates. As for watchdogs, well they are.</p>
<p>&#8220;they constantly forget that they are first, last, and always citizens of the United States and that when the President takes the country to war, it should be he that decides war policy not them.&#8221;</p>
<p>What bullshit. We the people decide everything. Its our country, not the presidents. He works for us. What kind of an authoritarian attiutude have you developed in your old age?</p>
<p>&#8220;in actuality, they were usually acting on what they believed were the summary beliefs of our intelligence community&#8221;</p>
<p>Get real. You can&#8217;t really beleive that, can you? These people made it very plain that they wanted a war with Iraq years before they even took office. After 9/11, it is dead obvious that they decided to use that situation to convince the country to go to war. The intellegence was mined specifically for any thing of value that could be used to support their case. They had no interest whatsoever in evidence that could undermine their case. Because they had no interest whatsoever in making a wise, informed decision - their decision had been already made.</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t understand that, you must be playing with far less than half a deck.</p>
<p>&#8220;thatâ€™s what the war between the White House and the CIA is all about; the belief by some at the CIA that the wrong man is President of the United States&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah right. Lets try and guess the partisan makeup of the intellegence community (80% of which is in DOD). The Bush administration war on the intellegence community has always been about the simple fact that the intel mission is to provide accurate intellegence, and the Bush administration wanted only evidence to support their agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: Syl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Syl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 23:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, good article, Rick!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, good article, Rick!</p>
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		<title>By: Syl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Syl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 23:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>steviebaby should at least get his facts straight before spouting.

Neither Gorge Bush, Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, nor Scooter Libby ever leaked classified information.

The person who DID, Novak's source, has not been publicly identified and the prosecutor has said he will not be charged because he broke no laws.

Portions of the NIE (a CONSENSUS summary) were declassified by Bush and disseminated sparingly, and publicly released a few days later.

That's hardly leaking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>steviebaby should at least get his facts straight before spouting.</p>
<p>Neither Gorge Bush, Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, nor Scooter Libby ever leaked classified information.</p>
<p>The person who DID, Novak&#8217;s source, has not been publicly identified and the prosecutor has said he will not be charged because he broke no laws.</p>
<p>Portions of the NIE (a CONSENSUS summary) were declassified by Bush and disseminated sparingly, and publicly released a few days later.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s hardly leaking.</p>
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		<title>By: steviebaby!</title>
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		<dc:creator>steviebaby!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 15:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only george bush, dick cheney, karl rove, and scooter libby should be allowed to leak classified information;If you are not one of those six or seven people you should be fired immediatly, I don't care if it is revealing secret torture camps or spying on citizens, only those people above should be allowed to leak and then to lie about it. All others must be prosecuted and then be sent to prison, Thank You.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only george bush, dick cheney, karl rove, and scooter libby should be allowed to leak classified information;If you are not one of those six or seven people you should be fired immediatly, I don&#8217;t care if it is revealing secret torture camps or spying on citizens, only those people above should be allowed to leak and then to lie about it. All others must be prosecuted and then be sent to prison, Thank You.</p>
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