As it is I’m getting older. There is one person left who still hopes to get something for the effort invested…

I just want to see some serious money spent to either locate the origional prototype or redo it. I mean none of the people involved were rocket scientists. I’m just tired of the whole thing.

It’s funny how time changes how you feel or think about things. I used to want to be part of something that really took off and made it big. At the time of the machine’s developement I was working on an internet access machine with one other person seperate from the freon thing but that is how I linked into that. The internet thing looked very promising until AOL went free and all the lines got tied up so no one could get on until their time was gone. We had to pull out our machines until we could solve the server problem and a couple of other ones like killing the keyboard until they were on so they couldn’t change the modem settings.

GTE signed up all the airports so we got blocked by the big boys… I think one of our investors ratted us out for a big payoff. I won’t name any names but John Straus of Zircon, the company that manufactures and distributes the stud sensor got the idea for that one from another person who had a booth in one of those new product shows where he was showing it along with a video demonstration. John went out and bought a piece of balsa wood and a can of black spray paint, produced a video that showed him ostensibly using it to locate studs on one sided wall and opened his own booth to see what kind of interest there was in it. There was tons. So he called up his R&D people and they actually made one that worked and with all his millions he went into production in silicon valley until they moved their plant to Mexico to find cheaper labor.

Anyway I’m older now and my outlook has been knocked down enough. If someone was to find a way to redo what has been done and it put a big dent in the status quo. I’d be very happy… One thing more…Never file for a patent until you are far enough into production and distribution so that they can’t steal your idea. You can’t patent an idea, only the technolgy.

And the answer is NIETHER because the people were more interested in who was voted off the latest UNIS idol show anywho the people suffered and the pander train rolled on and on and on.

Scientists, studying the tape of the Hindenberg disaster have concluded that what caught fire was the agent used to weather proof the skin of the Hindenberg. If the hydrogen had ignited the explosion would have been far worse.

Part of the secret of the system has to do with the workings of the turbine.

It isn’t ownership of the patent that has stymied developement. It is the outlawing of freon and the huge cost imposed by this that has stopped this thing.

Instead of saying “george bush is the greatest leader that we deserve, and I am hopeful that he will somehow be able to serve another four years” you could have written something like “George Bush is my God and we should annoint him King.”

Otherwise, one could mistake you for a real Bush lover instead of the sorry excuse for a moonbat that you are.

Actually, almost anything would work. Put water under a vaccuum and it will boil at room temperature. Maybe turnip juice would make a good substitute for Freon.

That heat pump idea is not new. Been around for centuries. Carnot described way back in the early 1800’s. d’Arsonval thought up a system that used the heat form the sun and the cool of deep ocean water. It’s been tried on a large scale in tropical islands (Cuba and Hawaii).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_thermal_energy_conversion

But typical efficiency is only 1%-3%. So you have a relatively big cost of startup for a small amount of energy - especially on a small scale.

Since you have moving parts, there is maintenance cost and hastle. (Somewhere, you will have to break the seal on the closed tube to maintain the turbine.)

When the ground is used for cooling, it doesn’t conduct heat very well. The heat buildup will reduce efficiency.

But one more thing. Notice the names involved with the heat pumps — Carnot and d’Arsonval. They’re French. The French invented the Laws that limit the heat engines. It’s not the oil companies supressing the patent, it’s the French.

When freon was outlawed it effectivly ended the economical viability of the generator because of the quantity needed to operate a machine of the size that would be mounted on a house. Although the freon is encapsulated inside and would not be released into the atmosphere, you could not get the necessary freon as it is unlawful at this time.

Just because this Dennis Lee is using the technology to rip people off doesn’t mean it didn’t work. It proves that by making freon illegal it can’t be made.