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		<title>By: insurance[!3]</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 15:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: telxrewupi</title>
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		<dc:creator>telxrewupi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2006 10:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 03:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also note that at this time no charges have been filed.

I'd like to see the autopsy reports. The balistic evidence.

It is possible that the terrorists murdered these folks and then blamed the Marines. It is possible the terrorists were hiding behind the civilians.

If in fact the evidence points to the Marines then they should face severe punishment based on the appropriate charges.

So far all we have is hearsay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also note that at this time no charges have been filed.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see the autopsy reports. The balistic evidence.</p>
<p>It is possible that the terrorists murdered these folks and then blamed the Marines. It is possible the terrorists were hiding behind the civilians.</p>
<p>If in fact the evidence points to the Marines then they should face severe punishment based on the appropriate charges.</p>
<p>So far all we have is hearsay.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 03:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#9 Rick Moran,

My take is similar. The dress code was intended to distinguish non-muslims from muslims.

I have not heard any further reports from Regime Chang Iran or other sources.

We shall see what happens if/when the law goes into effect.

================================

I'm wary of the whole Marines/war crimes stories. The head choppers are not above killing their own and blaming it on Americans.

That said if the story is true the Marines  who were involved should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.

BTW such killings in the heat of battle (or shortly after) does not square with "in cold blood". If it was in battle or shortly after it wopuld have definitely be a hot blooded action. For which the punishments are less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#9 Rick Moran,</p>
<p>My take is similar. The dress code was intended to distinguish non-muslims from muslims.</p>
<p>I have not heard any further reports from Regime Chang Iran or other sources.</p>
<p>We shall see what happens if/when the law goes into effect.</p>
<p>================================</p>
<p>I&#8217;m wary of the whole Marines/war crimes stories. The head choppers are not above killing their own and blaming it on Americans.</p>
<p>That said if the story is true the Marines  who were involved should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.</p>
<p>BTW such killings in the heat of battle (or shortly after) does not square with &#8220;in cold blood&#8221;. If it was in battle or shortly after it wopuld have definitely be a hot blooded action. For which the punishments are less.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe London</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe London</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 12:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The so called LEFT is something YOU define as all those who simply oppose the destructive, historically failing policies which are putting you in a position of justifying things you should know in your hearts are not things you should be trying to excuse or ignore."

This is eloquent. The best patriotism is pursuing truth, not partisanship or stubborn unwillingness to recognize mistakes. 

Over and over again, a less pavid press gives news on torture, secret prisons, extraordinary renditions (even of children), gratuitous violence abuses, coverups, illegality, cronyism, incompetence. 

Feeling outrage and voicing it is the most patriotic and moral thing one can do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The so called LEFT is something YOU define as all those who simply oppose the destructive, historically failing policies which are putting you in a position of justifying things you should know in your hearts are not things you should be trying to excuse or ignore.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is eloquent. The best patriotism is pursuing truth, not partisanship or stubborn unwillingness to recognize mistakes. </p>
<p>Over and over again, a less pavid press gives news on torture, secret prisons, extraordinary renditions (even of children), gratuitous violence abuses, coverups, illegality, cronyism, incompetence. </p>
<p>Feeling outrage and voicing it is the most patriotic and moral thing one can do.</p>
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		<title>By: LowlyLeft</title>
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		<dc:creator>LowlyLeft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 07:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is hard to read the circle jerks you rightwingjobs call disacussion forums, with a straight face.

The amount of delusion and desperation for a win saw you rightwingjobs make a massive mountain out of a molehill like the apparent Macbeth hoax. Which was not a hoax on you ninnies but was instead an atempted hoax upon us, the anti-war activists. Nor did we need any help from the deluded set in order to decide the thing was bull, since we tend to seek the facts as a group before setting course, we also rejected it within an hour or two. Without need for help from people who believe in forged Niger Yellowcake documents, fake Bin Laden Videos and claims of Iraqi WMD's.

Don't babble on like dingbats at me if you disagree, I'm not here.  Google the story. 

At any time over the past week apart from the rightwingjob sites there was NO real interest in it. 

There was no acceptance of the video as anything more than a likely hoax after about an hour at most on any serious sites.  

We did enjoy all the attention we got from rightwingjobs who came over looking to mock, and found only bemusement.  It was and is always frustrating to try and communicate with people who cannot separate the concepts of opinion and facts or realise that it is the opinions which should be molded to the facts not the other way around.

Now however it will be interesting to watch the same ones busier than a one legged man in an arse kicking contest as they justify instead the next story of atrocity with the same old "bad things happen..", "a few bad apples only.."

How you clowns can go from "We would never do such a thing, that is why we ar better able to tell you what to do".  to the "Well it was just a few bad apples and look how we deal honestly with it"   to the final justifications and excuses of how "hard it is to always be the global policeman, the stress makes us do it, but so what everyone else does it to, we ar no beter than anyone else"

Denial to minimisation to justification.  All in an unbroken course without a moment of pause or reflection, never once considering the possibility one may be erring.

The so called LEFT is something YOU define as all those who simply oppose the destructive, historically failing policies which are putting you in a position of justifying things you should know in your hearts are not things you should be trying to excuse or ignore.

As if that wasn't enough, you have the temerity to charge about and accuse this agglomerated left, which is not nor ever will be a cohesive group like you sheep, of being and doing all the very things which are the defining characteristics of the right.

We are not afraid of anybody, no terror here folks, unless it is of you.

We do not believe in hate or taking away freedoms or Totalitarian governments, that is your own preserve.

As for ignoring facts, history, common sense, reason or logic, these things too are for you normal fare.

I shall now move along and leave you cringing war mongering slaves of greed to prove me right after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is hard to read the circle jerks you rightwingjobs call disacussion forums, with a straight face.</p>
<p>The amount of delusion and desperation for a win saw you rightwingjobs make a massive mountain out of a molehill like the apparent Macbeth hoax. Which was not a hoax on you ninnies but was instead an atempted hoax upon us, the anti-war activists. Nor did we need any help from the deluded set in order to decide the thing was bull, since we tend to seek the facts as a group before setting course, we also rejected it within an hour or two. Without need for help from people who believe in forged Niger Yellowcake documents, fake Bin Laden Videos and claims of Iraqi WMD&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t babble on like dingbats at me if you disagree, I&#8217;m not here.  Google the story. </p>
<p>At any time over the past week apart from the rightwingjob sites there was NO real interest in it. </p>
<p>There was no acceptance of the video as anything more than a likely hoax after about an hour at most on any serious sites.  </p>
<p>We did enjoy all the attention we got from rightwingjobs who came over looking to mock, and found only bemusement.  It was and is always frustrating to try and communicate with people who cannot separate the concepts of opinion and facts or realise that it is the opinions which should be molded to the facts not the other way around.</p>
<p>Now however it will be interesting to watch the same ones busier than a one legged man in an arse kicking contest as they justify instead the next story of atrocity with the same old &#8220;bad things happen..&#8221;, &#8220;a few bad apples only..&#8221;</p>
<p>How you clowns can go from &#8220;We would never do such a thing, that is why we ar better able to tell you what to do&#8221;.  to the &#8220;Well it was just a few bad apples and look how we deal honestly with it&#8221;   to the final justifications and excuses of how &#8220;hard it is to always be the global policeman, the stress makes us do it, but so what everyone else does it to, we ar no beter than anyone else&#8221;</p>
<p>Denial to minimisation to justification.  All in an unbroken course without a moment of pause or reflection, never once considering the possibility one may be erring.</p>
<p>The so called LEFT is something YOU define as all those who simply oppose the destructive, historically failing policies which are putting you in a position of justifying things you should know in your hearts are not things you should be trying to excuse or ignore.</p>
<p>As if that wasn&#8217;t enough, you have the temerity to charge about and accuse this agglomerated left, which is not nor ever will be a cohesive group like you sheep, of being and doing all the very things which are the defining characteristics of the right.</p>
<p>We are not afraid of anybody, no terror here folks, unless it is of you.</p>
<p>We do not believe in hate or taking away freedoms or Totalitarian governments, that is your own preserve.</p>
<p>As for ignoring facts, history, common sense, reason or logic, these things too are for you normal fare.</p>
<p>I shall now move along and leave you cringing war mongering slaves of greed to prove me right after all.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe London</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/05/27/a-rush-to-judgment-on-haditha/comment-page-1/#comment-200197</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe London</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2006 21:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe an important point is being missed here: were it not for Time, Los Angeles Times, Independent, etc. this massacre might have never surfaced, as it appears clear there have been attempts of cover-up. And it is possible that various others similar tragedies have gone unreported or covered-up.

Thus even at the risk of spreading news that later are rectified, it is important that the news talk about all these things, provided that journalists do their job properly. Let's not forget that perpetrators of crimes and friends are not likely to reveal their crimes spontaneously.

An accurate investigation has been carried out by the Times, consistent with reports of other news providers and with leaks of pre-investigation reports by authorities.
Read here: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2200170,00.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe an important point is being missed here: were it not for Time, Los Angeles Times, Independent, etc. this massacre might have never surfaced, as it appears clear there have been attempts of cover-up. And it is possible that various others similar tragedies have gone unreported or covered-up.</p>
<p>Thus even at the risk of spreading news that later are rectified, it is important that the news talk about all these things, provided that journalists do their job properly. Let&#8217;s not forget that perpetrators of crimes and friends are not likely to reveal their crimes spontaneously.</p>
<p>An accurate investigation has been carried out by the Times, consistent with reports of other news providers and with leaks of pre-investigation reports by authorities.<br />
Read here: <a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2200170,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2200170,00.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ilario Pantano slams Murtha for rushing to judgment on Haditha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ilario Pantano slams Murtha for rushing to judgment on Haditha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2006 18:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve already said I don&#8217;t want to beat up on Murtha lest it take the focus off the atrocities that were allegedly committed. But I also don&#8217;t want to see Pantano redux. Rick Moran notes a recent example of trumped-up charges against the Marines and urges caution. Dan Riehl has questions about the consistency of some of the facts that have been reported. And Patterico wants to know just how fully had been briefed before he went on TV and pronounced these guys guilty. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;ve already said I don&#8217;t want to beat up on Murtha lest it take the focus off the atrocities that were allegedly committed. But I also don&#8217;t want to see Pantano redux. Rick Moran notes a recent example of trumped-up charges against the Marines and urges caution. Dan Riehl has questions about the consistency of some of the facts that have been reported. And Patterico wants to know just how fully had been briefed before he went on TV and pronounced these guys guilty. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Moran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Moran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2006 17:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick:

From ABC News:

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/story?id=2006497&#038;page=1&#038;CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312
 
&lt;em&gt;The incident is still under investigation, but several senior military officials say at least seven Marines could face criminal charges.

Although the investigation is not complete, the Pentagon has already briefed key members of Congress on the details of the investigation. After a briefing on Thursday, Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman John Warner told reporters, "There are established facts that incidents of a very serious nature did take place."&lt;/em&gt;

My understanding is that this is a preliminary investigation that won't be completed until the end of next month at which point a decision will be made to charge the Marines.

I guess they figured the story was going to come out anyway - best that it come from the military than WaPo.

 

Rick Moran</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick:</p>
<p>From ABC News:</p>
<p><a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/story?id=2006497&#038;page=1&#038;CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312" rel="nofollow">http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/story?id=2006497&#038;page=1&#038;CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312</a></p>
<p><em>The incident is still under investigation, but several senior military officials say at least seven Marines could face criminal charges.</p>
<p>Although the investigation is not complete, the Pentagon has already briefed key members of Congress on the details of the investigation. After a briefing on Thursday, Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman John Warner told reporters, &#8220;There are established facts that incidents of a very serious nature did take place.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>My understanding is that this is a preliminary investigation that won&#8217;t be completed until the end of next month at which point a decision will be made to charge the Marines.</p>
<p>I guess they figured the story was going to come out anyway - best that it come from the military than WaPo.</p>
<p>Rick Moran</p>
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		<title>By: Patterico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patterico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2006 17:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about my question?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about my question?</p>
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