Comments on: WHY WE NEED MORE INTROSPECTION FROM THE MEDIA

By: PC

PC — Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:27:39 +0000

Crosspatch…lol…they must be in their last throes again, it is, the current talking point, after all. Cheney said so, AGAIN TODAY, It must be true.
Talking points are not policy.

By: crosspatch

crosspatch — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:48:45 +0000

Example:

Foward Together in Iraq. The first two days were relatively quiet. The second two days saw a resurgance of violence back to about what was normal before the crackdown. Headlines were generally “security crackdown unable to abate violence”. The last two days have been quiet again, in a relative sense. Yesterday (running from midnight to midnight Eastern Daylight) there were 14 civilian deaths reported. Much fewer than the average of 30 or so per day. So far today 10 have been reported.

Anyone seen any “Baghdad quieter than usual” headlines today? As I type this, on the Google News home page, top center, is an article from Time “Is insurgency on the rebound?” it asks.

Nope, nothing but doom and gloom out of the press today.

By: crosspatch

crosspatch — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 19:42:12 +0000

Andy, I agree with you to some extent. In many cases news reporting is a business after a profit. I would hold out NewsCorp as one example. But then you have another side of that coin. The publisher of the New York Times told a college graduating class that he was sorry that he had been unable to change the world to fit the leftist vision. He is also losing money hand over fist. I believe NYT recently let around 500 people go. Profit doesn’t seem to me the prime motivator at NYT, agenda does, if you are to believe the words of the publisher and take their financial condition into account.

NPR is another who doesn’t care about profit. They are all about agenda. So yes, in some cases it is about a business but in other cases it certainly appears to be about agenda and places like NYT seem to set the tone for other news outlets because of their past journalistic history. The current NYT is burning up that professional capital quickly as they become seen as less of a jounralistic powerhouse and more of a propaganda machine.

By: crosspatch

crosspatch — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 19:29:41 +0000

Yeah, DEagle … I am not a good little partisan for either side. I tend to have views that are my own and am willing to debate them on their merits. In fact, I believe you completely misunderstood my remark on RS, but that is a different topic. Anyway, don’t expect me to toe any party lines. I like to try to use logic rather than emotion to reach conclusions, that is something that I believe is seriously lacking in both the left and the right these days.

By: Andy

Andy — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 17:57:16 +0000

DEagle,

There certainly is some liberal bias in the media, but like any business, the media is in it ultimately for the money. I think the lack of war coverage has little to do with liberal bias and a lot to do with what American’s want to watch and what types of programs increase viewership and therefore revenue from advertising.

I think most Americans come home from a hard day’s work and would rather spend their limited downtime on mindless entertainment like American Idol than digesting the latest war reporting. It’s unfortunate, but that’s simply the way things are in my opinion. Fox News, which certainly has no liberal bias, is just as guilty if not moreso.

By: PC

PC — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 08:53:54 +0000

and…a talking point.

By: PC

PC — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 08:51:53 +0000

Crosspatch- It is funny to see your justifications for this administrations dismall performance. Side isses about WMD, no mention of the force levels or the planning. Just some other “reasons” connected to those things. Excuses. We have been there four years now my friend, were mistakes made or not? If so, what is the POTUS doing to correct them? …..But dude, ” MUSHROOM COUDS…they are going to great us as liberators… they are going to throw flowers at us… their gas is going to pay for this…..several hundred thousand men is a gross over estimation of the force level needed.” Give me a break. We still have not changed course. We are still accepting these bogus assumptions.
As far as your assertation that Iraq resisted inspections…utterly ridiculous. It is not the reason we went to war there. We are there to project power and build a free society. At least that is the reason that is being given, today. Seems like a better reason than a bogus one.
I understand the reason for this power projection. I really could care less about the “reason” given, besides the fact that it made us look like fools. What I do not get, is how so many people can still defend the planning, and the past and current force levels? I will never understand that. How can Conservatives, look at the situation and say, hey, things are going well. How can Conservatives buy into this notion that our Armed Forces should be at its current size, when we are fighting a regional war with the increased threat from China? Iran, North Korea..?? The press has nothing to do with any of this, and this post is an attmept to blame this Administations falures and lame foreign policy on the media. It’s a joke.

By: DEagle

DEagle — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:32:11 +0000

Sorry for missing the obvious…as to your blog. I’m sure that you can change blog provider if you wish…although I must admit that I have lost a bit of interest since reading you comments at RedState… You still provide logic though which is much needed…hang in here.

By: crosspatch

crosspatch — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:13:49 +0000

If you click my name it should take you to my blog but I don’t post often for a couple of reasons. First it is on blogspot which is really owned by Google and I have a problem with Google these days in their manipulation of Google News. Secondly I don’t like the interface there. It is just a pain in the rear to enter articles with it. I am considering taking my blog someplace else but I don’t feel like messing with it much, usually.

By: DEagle

DEagle — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 06:47:24 +0000

Andy:

I really do believe the many would like to hear detail information about the war (and associated news), but the MSM just does not provide the information. Me, I go to the blogs, especially military blogs for more information on real activity. It’s too bad that they have to cater to the majority that do not give a hoot about what is going on (money don’t ya know)…and probably don’t care… All this is leading not only to a downfall of the media, but a downfall of America… I see no reversable trend….