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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 17:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 'war on terra' is bogus. It is not a war, just a convenient geo-political ploy to enrich the arms industry and their subsidiary industries, which are vast. Our 'enemy' is an ideology, which can never be eradicated, ergo a permanent war...isn't that great?! - unending profits. Any 'war' will have the added side-effect of keeping the masses in a paralytical state of fear so that critical dissent is always stifled or muted. 

Bush is a lazy frat boy. He has stated that "diplomacy is hard work"...well, duh!

It is much easier to strike out or isolate those with whom you disagree. It requires very little thought or consideration, but the consequences are always a cycle of spiraling responses leading to ever-increasing violence. It is simply stupid and childish, but the current foreign policy of the U.S. is operated on this very childish level. It is not just incompetence. It is incompetence combined with laziness. 

I long for a time when adults will be in charge again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8216;war on terra&#8217; is bogus. It is not a war, just a convenient geo-political ploy to enrich the arms industry and their subsidiary industries, which are vast. Our &#8216;enemy&#8217; is an ideology, which can never be eradicated, ergo a permanent war&#8230;isn&#8217;t that great?! - unending profits. Any &#8216;war&#8217; will have the added side-effect of keeping the masses in a paralytical state of fear so that critical dissent is always stifled or muted. </p>
<p>Bush is a lazy frat boy. He has stated that &#8220;diplomacy is hard work&#8221;&#8230;well, duh!</p>
<p>It is much easier to strike out or isolate those with whom you disagree. It requires very little thought or consideration, but the consequences are always a cycle of spiraling responses leading to ever-increasing violence. It is simply stupid and childish, but the current foreign policy of the U.S. is operated on this very childish level. It is not just incompetence. It is incompetence combined with laziness. </p>
<p>I long for a time when adults will be in charge again.</p>
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		<title>By: ShrinkWrapped</title>
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		<dc:creator>ShrinkWrapped</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2006 13:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Council Has Spoken!&lt;/strong&gt;

This week's winning Council post was The Wild, Wild West(ern Europe) at Gates of Vienna. There was a 5-way tie for second place between ESCAPING THE LEGAL AND MORAL QUAGMIRE OF GUANTANAMO, Jew hater Bush?!??, Why havenâ€™t we captured Osama</description>
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<p>This week&#8217;s winning Council post was The Wild, Wild West(ern Europe) at Gates of Vienna. There was a 5-way tie for second place between ESCAPING THE LEGAL AND MORAL QUAGMIRE OF GUANTANAMO, Jew hater Bush?!??, Why havenâ€™t we captured Osama</p>
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		<title>By: The Glittering Eye &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Council Has Spoken!</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/07/01/escaping-the-legal-and-moral-quagmire-of-guantanamo/comment-page-1/#comment-255433</link>
		<dc:creator>The Glittering Eye &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Council Has Spoken!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 12:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Watcher&#8217;s Council has announced its picks for the most outstanding posts of the preceding week. The winning Council post was Gates of Vienna&#8217;s comparison of crime rate in the United States and Europe, &#8220;Wild, Wild West(ern Europe)&#8221;.Â  There was a remarkable 5-way tie for second place honors with posts byÂ  Right Wing Nut House, Joshuapundit, New World Man, Done With Mirrors, and myself in a dead heat.Â  I think that points less to a division of opinion among Council members than the general excellence of the Council submissions this week. The winning non-Council post was Outside the Beltway&#8217;s amusing fisking of the Declaration of Independence. The second place non-Council post was Shape of Days&#8217;s post, â€œSometimes Even the Good Ones Lose Their Wayâ€, a commentary on Congressman Jack Kingston. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Watcher&#8217;s Council has announced its picks for the most outstanding posts of the preceding week. The winning Council post was Gates of Vienna&#8217;s comparison of crime rate in the United States and Europe, &#8220;Wild, Wild West(ern Europe)&#8221;.Â  There was a remarkable 5-way tie for second place honors with posts byÂ  Right Wing Nut House, Joshuapundit, New World Man, Done With Mirrors, and myself in a dead heat.Â  I think that points less to a division of opinion among Council members than the general excellence of the Council submissions this week. The winning non-Council post was Outside the Beltway&#8217;s amusing fisking of the Declaration of Independence. The second place non-Council post was Shape of Days&#8217;s post, â€œSometimes Even the Good Ones Lose Their Wayâ€, a commentary on Congressman Jack Kingston. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Watcher of Weasels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Watcher of Weasels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 06:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Council Has Spoken!&lt;/strong&gt;

First off...&#160; any spambots reading this should immediately go here, here, here,&#160; and here.&#160; Die spambots, die!&#160; And now...&#160; the winning entries in the Watcher's Council vote for this week are The Wild, Wild West(ern Europe) by...</description>
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<p>First off&#8230;&nbsp; any spambots reading this should immediately go here, here, here,&nbsp; and here.&nbsp; Die spambots, die!&nbsp; And now&#8230;&nbsp; the winning entries in the Watcher&#8217;s Council vote for this week are The Wild, Wild West(ern Europe) by&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: 242U2HF8uA</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 01:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Glittering Eye &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Eye on the Watcher&#8217;s Council</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/07/01/escaping-the-legal-and-moral-quagmire-of-guantanamo/comment-page-1/#comment-252956</link>
		<dc:creator>The Glittering Eye &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Eye on the Watcher&#8217;s Council</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 19:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Right Wing Nut House, â€œEscaping the Legal and Moral Quagmire of Guantanamoâ€ [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Watcher of Weasels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Watcher of Weasels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 06:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Submitted for Your Approval&lt;/strong&gt;

First off...&#160; any spambots reading this should immediately go here, here, here,&#160; and here.&#160; Die spambots, die!&#160; And now...&#160; here are all the links submitted by members of the Watcher's Council for this week's vote. Council li...</description>
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<p>First off&#8230;&nbsp; any spambots reading this should immediately go here, here, here,&nbsp; and here.&nbsp; Die spambots, die!&nbsp; And now&#8230;&nbsp; here are all the links submitted by members of the Watcher&#8217;s Council for this week&#8217;s vote. Council li&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 19:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PC,

"My" numbers on compensation are from the GAO.  Read the first page of this report:

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05798.pdf

It's impossible for you to calculate BAS, BAH, etc. because those benefits are dependent upon duty location, rank and marital status.  Special pays are very complicated - there is no way you correctly factored them in. So I'll take the GAO's numbers over yours.  And yes, they include officers - they are in the military too - but not retiree pay, or even reserve and Guard pay. 

Yes, in 2004 it cost about $158 billion to pay for 1.4 million active-duty military.  Like I said above, that doesn't include any equipment, training, or operational costs.  You probably need to double that figure at least to account for those factors.  Additionally, as I said before, it takes time to build a force - you can't just toss in a ton of money and expect the Government to instantly squat down and squeeze out a million fully trained and equipped troops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PC,</p>
<p>&#8220;My&#8221; numbers on compensation are from the GAO.  Read the first page of this report:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05798.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05798.pdf</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s impossible for you to calculate BAS, BAH, etc. because those benefits are dependent upon duty location, rank and marital status.  Special pays are very complicated - there is no way you correctly factored them in. So I&#8217;ll take the GAO&#8217;s numbers over yours.  And yes, they include officers - they are in the military too - but not retiree pay, or even reserve and Guard pay. </p>
<p>Yes, in 2004 it cost about $158 billion to pay for 1.4 million active-duty military.  Like I said above, that doesn&#8217;t include any equipment, training, or operational costs.  You probably need to double that figure at least to account for those factors.  Additionally, as I said before, it takes time to build a force - you can&#8217;t just toss in a ton of money and expect the Government to instantly squat down and squeeze out a million fully trained and equipped troops.</p>
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		<title>By: SShiell</title>
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		<dc:creator>SShiell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 16:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PC:
Is that the best you can do?  Your proof consists of:

Comments made by right wing advocates is "proof" that Republicans are behind their remarks?

Your "proof" we need more troops is comments from retired generals, not one of which commanded troops in the field in either Iraq or Afghanistan?

And now you jump on the author of this post for disagreeing with the Supremes? What color is the kettle in your world? How 'bout the pot?

You and the author of this post, and myself for that matter, are very much alike.  Each of us have opinions - and assholes. The fact that the author's opinion differs from yours or the Supreme Court does not necessarily make him an asshole. But you clearly have established that moniker as your own.

My grandfather once told me never to wrestle with a pig - you get dirty and the pig loves it. PC, comment to your hearts fulfillment, I'm through wrestling with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PC:<br />
Is that the best you can do?  Your proof consists of:</p>
<p>Comments made by right wing advocates is &#8220;proof&#8221; that Republicans are behind their remarks?</p>
<p>Your &#8220;proof&#8221; we need more troops is comments from retired generals, not one of which commanded troops in the field in either Iraq or Afghanistan?</p>
<p>And now you jump on the author of this post for disagreeing with the Supremes? What color is the kettle in your world? How &#8217;bout the pot?</p>
<p>You and the author of this post, and myself for that matter, are very much alike.  Each of us have opinions - and assholes. The fact that the author&#8217;s opinion differs from yours or the Supreme Court does not necessarily make him an asshole. But you clearly have established that moniker as your own.</p>
<p>My grandfather once told me never to wrestle with a pig - you get dirty and the pig loves it. PC, comment to your hearts fulfillment, I&#8217;m through wrestling with you.</p>
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		<title>By: GW</title>
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		<dc:creator>GW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 19:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there had never been a Gitmo the Islamic world would not have thought any better of the U.S. 

 The idea that the Supreme Court's majority ruling was some kind of open door invitation to the congress to set things right is a joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there had never been a Gitmo the Islamic world would not have thought any better of the U.S. </p>
<p> The idea that the Supreme Court&#8217;s majority ruling was some kind of open door invitation to the congress to set things right is a joke.</p>
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