Comments on: IAF ADMITS IT WAS WRONG ABOUT QANA

By: Joel

Joel — Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:41:24 +0000

1. Qana in Lebanon is not “the ancient city of Qana” of the New Testament (Cana of Gallilee) which is in Israel.
2. Stop this second guessing. Israel is in a fight for its life which it must win!!!
3. How many civilians did we kill in Germany and Japan during World War II?
4. Israel has nothing to apologize for or to investigate. She is in a war which she did not start against a merciless, cynical enemy.
5. War means fighting, fighting menas killing.

By: Redhead Infidel

Redhead Infidel — Wed, 02 Aug 2006 16:52:07 +0000

There are many contradictions and sloppy statements in the Haaretz article. I wrote to the three reporters to request clarifications on the following:

1. “…the military had no information on rockets launched from the site of the building, or the presence of Hezbollah men at the time.”

Does that mean there WERE NONE, or that they just didn’t have the info to give to you?

2. “However, it [IAF] changed its version on Monday.”

How so? No one disputes that over 150 rockets have been launched from Qana in the preceding 20 days.

3. “However, there were no rocket launches from Qana on the day of the strike.”

The strike occured between midnight and 1:00 a.m. Are you trying to say that there were no rocket launches from Qana on the previous day, or as you wrote, the actual “day of the strike” - ie: after midnight? It is quite possible that there were no rocket launches between midnight and the time of the Israeli strike - a matter of minutes. So, technically, your statement is correct, but disingenuous. Either you are being deliberately misleading, or none of you are very precise and accurate writers.

4. Your report is contradictory. First you say “The survivors say rescue teams arrived only in the morning, as night conditions made the rescue mission difficult.” but then you say “…the electricity and phones in the village of Qana were almost entirely cut-off by IAF attacks.” Is that so? Apparently NOT, since they were able to make the call anyways. So which is it? Did the rescue teams get a call at night, but they couldn’t make it because of the dark, or did they get the call in the morning??? You can’t have it both ways. In either case, you are wrong, the phones were working. It only matters when the calls were made.

5. “The IDF provided no explanation for the second explosion…”

What second explosion? Either the building collapsed at midnight due to an IAF strike, and the rescue teams couldn’t make it because it was tragically so dark; OR, the building collapsed in the morning, having nothing to do with the IAF strike.

6. “The IAF admits the village was struck three times between Saturday night and Sunday morning.”

I take issue with your loaded use of the negative word “admits”. A more accurate word would have been “confirms”.

I find this particular article to be a sloppy bit of reporting. One would hope that between the three of you, you could apply a little more logic. You’re not asking the right questions, you’re citing questionable and unnamed sources, and your semantics seem deliberately chosen to paint a highly negative picture of the IDF and IAF.

By the way, did you know that the anti-Israeli left is now using this exact article as their “proof” of evil Israeli intent and a cover-up? Not well played, Yoav, Yuval, and Amos - not well played, at all.

By: Old War Dogs >> Rick Moran: IAF Admits It Was Wrong About Qana

Old War Dogs >> Rick Moran: IAF Admits It Was Wrong About Qana — Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:44:10 +0000

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By: Robert

Robert — Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:15:28 +0000

“We will ultimately win because we are better than them.”

Platitudes. Empty rhetoric. We will win because we are smarter, stronger and more committed to victory than they are.
Being moral is great. It doesn’t win you victories. Ask the Poles in 1939.

By: The Strata-Sphere » Blog Archive » Wait And See On Qana

The Strata-Sphere » Blog Archive » Wait And See On Qana — Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:52:06 +0000

[...] Mac Ranger and Rick Moran note changes in the IDF account surrounding Qana and Rick is suggesting caution. I agree, we need to get a clearer picture. But the lack of a rocket attack with in 24 hours of Israeli response is not going to be an indication of a mistake by the IDF. As I noted when the video came out of Hezbollah rocket launchers, that video shows Israeli special forces scouting out and recording Hezbollah sites. The video seems to be taken from a few kilometers away and on a nearby hill. With boots on the ground and evidence of this detail I would posit that the IDF is working on the best intel available, and putting their best soldiers at risk to get the intel and avoid civilians. Wait and see the final report? Sure. Believe Hezbollah over IDF? Doubtful. [...]

By: Dan Roll

Dan Roll — Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:27:41 +0000

Rely on bloggers to stray from the point and allow others to distract from an discussion by extension.
The issue at Qana is this, did the bodies shown to the world by the media die in that building? With the repetition of the assertion that the bodies came from the basement, it becomes all the more more suspicious that none of these bodies showed any sign of injury or blood. Bodies pulled from under tons of debris are usually not in a condition for display.
As for irrelevant departures; why the building was hit, the motives of those that hit it, where the men were, when did the building collapse, who is the guy in the green helmet, is Bush a Nazi, was there a gun on the roof, is the Vice President of America really a demon from hell, etc, - all of these are interesting topics for discussion, I just wish people would stick to the important question for now. How, when, and where, did the bodies displayed for the media from the collapsed building in Qana meet their fate? When this has been established, maybe some of the preceding questions will still be interesting. Or maybe not.

By: Macsmind - Conservative Commentary and Common Sense » Blog Archive » Qana - Part II

Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:36:48 +0000

[...] Rick Moran nonetheless cautions bloggers on the “Hezbollah did it meme”: “First and foremost, those who are blogging this story should step back for a while and wait for the IDF report on the tragedy which should be forthcoming in the next couple of days. This appears to be one of those stories where the bloggers got ahead of the curve of information so far that speculation took on a life of its own and ended up making some wish they had held their fire.” [...]

By: Pablo

Pablo — Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:29:12 +0000

BTW John, the best way to beat this enemy is NOT to become them.

The beat way to beat this enemy is to eliminate them, which admittedly, they’d also like to do to us and to the Israelis. So, beating them to it is crucial.

By: Drewsmom

Drewsmom — Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:00:12 +0000

No md, you are wrong, the best way to win this war is to win it for civilization as we know it so you won’t have to wear a turban to the hospital you work in, but I’m not sure you are a doc as md are probably your initials, kinda like the name mad assed, at Bush and all those on the right side of this issue.
WAKE UP ……………

By: md

md — Wed, 02 Aug 2006 05:10:57 +0000

The following is a comment published on the Left Coaster web site.

Israel should not appologize nor should the US. We should continue mass bombings. When and only when the radical Arabs and Muslims decide to fight by following the Geneva convention should we begin to even care about who dies. Women and children? So what! Their husband or father was out firing rockets so they are legit targets. TO win a war you destroy the opposition. This means the population. If they don’t want to die then surrender.

All you libs are the same. Just a bunch of crybabies who only want to see the US and Israel punished. Not once in this article was it mentioned that the enemy hides near these houses. They refuse towear uniforms and hide behind a child. And since when should grown woem be spared anyway? They pull triggers and wear suicide bomb vests. When they surrender then we should stop.

And by the way, cut the satan, hell and other religious crap. Since when do you belive in God or religion anyway? You would be the first person to prevent me from saying God in a school yet you bring it up when you want.

If it is the US and Israel against the world then I hope you leave to join the enemy. We are in WW3 and you better realize this or you’ll end up dead.

Posted by John at July 31, 2006 11:07 AM

This is what passes for rational thought on the Right.

BTW John, the best way to beat this enemy is NOT to become them. We will ultimately win because we are better than them.