Comments on: WELCOME TO THE NEW MIDDLE EAST http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/08/12/welcome-to-the-new-middle-east/ Politics served up with a smile... And a stilletto. Sat, 25 Apr 2026 18:50:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Chris At Home http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/08/12/welcome-to-the-new-middle-east/comment-page-1/#comment-286587 Chris At Home Sun, 13 Aug 2006 10:40:14 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/08/12/welcome-to-the-new-middle-east/#comment-286587 <strong>Non-War News</strong> It's a ceasefire, right? The IDF will withdraw in a 1-2 weeks.The IDF already ... Non-War News

It’s a ceasefire, right? The IDF will withdraw in a 1-2 weeks.The IDF already …

]]> By: Freedom Fighter http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/08/12/welcome-to-the-new-middle-east/comment-page-1/#comment-286560 Freedom Fighter Sun, 13 Aug 2006 09:40:45 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/08/12/welcome-to-the-new-middle-east/#comment-286560 Well done, Rick..though unlike you, I do see certain parallels between now and the late 1930's. Give William L. Shirer or Sir Winston a quick reread, if you like. I would beg to differ with you slightly on one point...it was not the `sheiks of Araby' the frogs went grovelling to, but Iran. The French Foreign Minister Phillipe Dosty-Blasy met with the Iranian foreign minister in Beirut and received his marching orders...after which he praised Iran as a great nation and a stabilizing force for peace in the region! Iran , of course is the real winner in this conflict. I think that the Bush Administration would have continued to back Israel had Olmert displayed the slightest glimmer of competance or decisiveness...the US simply couldn't delay things any longer. Not after a month. So, as you intimate,this game will be played out again, probably for muc hmore lethal stakes. This is a defeat for the west, and the only silver lining I see is that Olmert will be gone from power soon after the war ends, Based on what I'm hearing from Israel. AFter the near defeat in the Yom Kippur War, the Labor party essentially resigned leadership (and rightfully so) and Likud took over. The party in question may not be the same, but I think Israel will end up with more decisive leadership. Basd onwhat I see coming inthe near future, they're going to need it. Well done, Rick..though unlike you, I do see certain parallels between now and the late 1930’s. Give William L. Shirer or Sir Winston a quick reread, if you like.

I would beg to differ with you slightly on one point…it was not the `sheiks of Araby’ the frogs went grovelling to, but Iran.

The French Foreign Minister Phillipe Dosty-Blasy met with the Iranian foreign minister in Beirut and received his marching orders…after which he praised Iran as a great nation and a stabilizing force for peace in the region!

Iran , of course is the real winner in this conflict.

I think that the Bush Administration would have continued to back Israel had Olmert displayed the slightest glimmer of competance or decisiveness…the US simply couldn’t delay things any longer. Not after a month. So, as you intimate,this game will be played out again, probably for muc hmore lethal stakes.

This is a defeat for the west, and the only silver lining I see is that Olmert will be gone from power soon after the war ends, Based on what I’m hearing from Israel.

AFter the near defeat in the Yom Kippur War, the Labor party essentially resigned leadership (and rightfully so) and Likud took over.

The party in question may not be the same, but I think Israel will end up with more decisive leadership. Basd onwhat I see coming inthe near future, they’re going to need it.

]]> By: sue http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/08/12/welcome-to-the-new-middle-east/comment-page-1/#comment-286547 sue Sun, 13 Aug 2006 08:51:18 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/08/12/welcome-to-the-new-middle-east/#comment-286547 Wishful Thinking? Just maybe: Olmert might have some insight into the mentality of Nasrallah when agreeing to the "Ceasefire" or is this just wishful thinging on my part? Nasrallah speech on TV yesterday: "We will not give up our "right" to fight as long as Israeli Troops are in Lebanon" Wording in UN Resolution: "Israel is expected to cease OFFENSIVE operations" How can there be a ceasefire if Israel is allowed to stay in Lebanon until the wonderful, brave, unbioused and proven "keepers of the peace" return "en force" and Nasrallah continues his "resistance"? Is this some sort of sneaky, around the corner open window for Israel and Olmert has seen the possibilities? Or is it just wishful thinking from a very worried Israeli Citizen! Wishful Thinking?
Just maybe: Olmert might have some insight into the mentality of Nasrallah when agreeing to the “Ceasefire” or is this just wishful thinging on my part?
Nasrallah speech on TV yesterday: “We will not give up our “right” to fight as long as Israeli Troops are in Lebanon”
Wording in UN Resolution: “Israel is expected to cease OFFENSIVE operations”
How can there be a ceasefire if Israel is allowed to stay in Lebanon until the wonderful, brave, unbioused and proven “keepers of the peace” return “en force” and Nasrallah continues his “resistance”? Is this some sort of sneaky, around the corner open window for Israel and Olmert has seen the possibilities? Or is it just wishful thinking from a very worried Israeli Citizen!

]]> By: Mitzi http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/08/12/welcome-to-the-new-middle-east/comment-page-1/#comment-286439 Mitzi Sun, 13 Aug 2006 04:46:01 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/08/12/welcome-to-the-new-middle-east/#comment-286439 I think that if the "Loyal? Opposition" had been more loyal and less Bush deranged, the President would have had a much stronger hand. If we had a fair or even-handed "real"press, as opposed to the Dan Rather types who seem to hate him, the President would have a much stronger negotiating stance. If we had allies that wern't so jealous and untrustworthy and sometimes cowardly, then maybe the President wouldn't have to always practically fight all on his own. He could have some backup. The man has had unimaginable burdens and pressures and dishonabole intentions directed towards him while in this job, and has always remained steady and honorable. His decisions have sometimes enraged me, but I've always trusted his smarts, his fotitude and his heart. He is the best friend Israel can have, and shame on them if they can't see it. I think that if the “Loyal? Opposition” had been more loyal and less Bush deranged, the President would have had a much stronger hand. If we had a fair or even-handed “real”press, as opposed to the Dan Rather types who seem to hate him, the President would have a much stronger negotiating stance. If we had allies that wern’t so jealous and untrustworthy and sometimes cowardly, then maybe the President wouldn’t have to always practically fight all on his own. He could have some backup. The man has had unimaginable burdens and pressures and dishonabole intentions directed towards him while in this job, and has always remained steady and honorable. His decisions have sometimes enraged me, but I’ve always trusted his smarts, his fotitude and his heart. He is the best friend Israel can have, and shame on them if they can’t see it.

]]> By: :: Political Musings :: » Cease-Fire? http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/08/12/welcome-to-the-new-middle-east/comment-page-1/#comment-286385 :: Political Musings :: » Cease-Fire? Sun, 13 Aug 2006 04:20:43 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/08/12/welcome-to-the-new-middle-east/#comment-286385 [...] Rick Moran, in his post Welcome to the New Middle East, makes a number of great points, the following being one example: Welcome to the new Middle East, a place where purposefully ordering the launching of thousands upon thousands of lethal rockets into towns and villages with the sole and exclusive goal of killing as many civilians as possible makes one a hero to the overwhelming majority of its people rather than a monster to be stoned in the street on sight. It is also a tactic that has been green lighted by the United Nations in that they have given these gleeful, murderous, rocketeers the opportunity to start their bombardment all over again just as soon as the international community loses interest and moves on to the next outrage that the world body also will be unable to do anything to stop. [...] [...] Rick Moran, in his post Welcome to the New Middle East, makes a number of great points, the following being one example: Welcome to the new Middle East, a place where purposefully ordering the launching of thousands upon thousands of lethal rockets into towns and villages with the sole and exclusive goal of killing as many civilians as possible makes one a hero to the overwhelming majority of its people rather than a monster to be stoned in the street on sight. It is also a tactic that has been green lighted by the United Nations in that they have given these gleeful, murderous, rocketeers the opportunity to start their bombardment all over again just as soon as the international community loses interest and moves on to the next outrage that the world body also will be unable to do anything to stop. [...]

]]> By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » Breaking: IDF reaches Litani; ceasefire set for 7 a.m. Monday http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/08/12/welcome-to-the-new-middle-east/comment-page-1/#comment-286233 Hot Air » Blog Archive » Breaking: IDF reaches Litani; ceasefire set for 7 a.m. Monday Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:24:16 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/08/12/welcome-to-the-new-middle-east/#comment-286233 [...] Update: Barnett and Moran are neck and neck in a race to the bottom of the depths of despair. Goldstein was in contention early on, but his last update holds out hope that Nasrallah will foolishly ignore the ceasefire, thereby giving the IDF the opportunity to wipe out the remaining jihadis in the field. I do think the fighting will continue for a few days after the ceasefire deadline, but both sides will simply point to the resolution and blame the other: Nasrallah will claim that Israel is continuing offensive operations, which justifies continued hostilities, and Israel will claim that Hezbollah is continuing hostilities, which justifies continued operations. Kofi Annan will express grave concern in due course, and by the end of next week the supreme soviet will have persuaded Olmert to be the bigger man and start withdrawing. Israel can be reasoned with, you see; terrorists can’t, Which is why pressure is brought to bear on the former and not the latter. Barbarism has its advantages. [...] [...] Update: Barnett and Moran are neck and neck in a race to the bottom of the depths of despair. Goldstein was in contention early on, but his last update holds out hope that Nasrallah will foolishly ignore the ceasefire, thereby giving the IDF the opportunity to wipe out the remaining jihadis in the field. I do think the fighting will continue for a few days after the ceasefire deadline, but both sides will simply point to the resolution and blame the other: Nasrallah will claim that Israel is continuing offensive operations, which justifies continued hostilities, and Israel will claim that Hezbollah is continuing hostilities, which justifies continued operations. Kofi Annan will express grave concern in due course, and by the end of next week the supreme soviet will have persuaded Olmert to be the bigger man and start withdrawing. Israel can be reasoned with, you see; terrorists can’t, Which is why pressure is brought to bear on the former and not the latter. Barbarism has its advantages. [...]

]]> By: Diane http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/08/12/welcome-to-the-new-middle-east/comment-page-1/#comment-286217 Diane Sat, 12 Aug 2006 19:12:19 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/08/12/welcome-to-the-new-middle-east/#comment-286217 Heaven help the U.S. for offering not a helping hand but a Judas kiss to its friend, Israel. "And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the pople of the earth be gathered together against her...It shall be in that day that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem." Zechariah 12:3,9 Heaven help the U.S. for offering not a helping hand but a Judas kiss to its friend, Israel. “And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people; all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the pople of the earth be gathered together against her…It shall be in that day that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.” Zechariah 12:3,9

]]> By: DaleinAtlanta http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/08/12/welcome-to-the-new-middle-east/comment-page-1/#comment-286207 DaleinAtlanta Sat, 12 Aug 2006 18:07:05 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/08/12/welcome-to-the-new-middle-east/#comment-286207 TAQIYYAH, Rick; TAQIYYAH! A truce or ceasefire, or better yet, a "hudna", concluded with Muslims, and especially Shias, isn't worth the ink and paper it's written on! It's just another term, for a long slow surrender, or suicide! Sad fact is, that this time, we were complicit in it! TAQIYYAH, Rick; TAQIYYAH! A truce or ceasefire, or better yet, a “hudna”, concluded with Muslims, and especially Shias, isn’t worth the ink and paper it’s written on!

It’s just another term, for a long slow surrender, or suicide!

Sad fact is, that this time, we were complicit in it!

]]> By: SShiell http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/08/12/welcome-to-the-new-middle-east/comment-page-1/#comment-286195 SShiell Sat, 12 Aug 2006 17:17:49 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/08/12/welcome-to-the-new-middle-east/#comment-286195 10 days and counting to August 22. 10 days and counting to August 22.

]]> By: Chris http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/08/12/welcome-to-the-new-middle-east/comment-page-1/#comment-286181 Chris Sat, 12 Aug 2006 15:59:23 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/08/12/welcome-to-the-new-middle-east/#comment-286181 Another "mission accomplished" for George W. Bush. Another “mission accomplished” for George W. Bush.

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