Comments on: GOOSING THE NANNY STATE IN CHICAGO http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/08/23/goosing-the-nanny-state-in-chicago/ Politics served up with a smile... And a stilletto. Mon, 11 May 2026 00:27:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Guillermo Gonzalez http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/08/23/goosing-the-nanny-state-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-296334 Guillermo Gonzalez Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:23:32 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/08/23/goosing-the-nanny-state-in-chicago/#comment-296334 I am refreshed and hopeful when reading your articles describing the ingredients used and involved by the anti-foie gras activism : political opportunism, class warfare, anthropomorphism, neglect to multiculturalism, veganism agenda, the activists and politicians megalomania, self-righteousness, hatred, ignorance, contempt, deception, coercion, bigotry, fanaticism, misinformation and media manipulation (propaganda), bullying, frivolous lawsuits, legislation, terrorism, ...you name it, I could go on but this is enough to get the "taste" of their actions, strategies and tactics that my family, employees and I have personally been subject to since 2003. Those who have the chance to read your articles will understand that this is about working towards a meatless society, just a stepping stone in a slippery slope. The duck is just the pretext for the scandal: If the ducks were mistreated they would never produce the foie gras and superior meat they do. These ducks have the best environment and living conditions in the whole spectrum of animal agriculture. It is in our best business interest to provide them with everything they need to be comfortable. The anatomy of waterfowl is totally adaptable to the traditional practices of foie gras production. This is not rocket science, it is taking advantage of Nature's built in mechanisms; no different than a wild cow capacity to produce milk. Obviously, the genetically selected domestic cow will produce many times more than the wild one... well, the same for the duck! The anti-foie gras activists, politicians and organizations should rather pick and commit to human welfare issues to make sense of their "call" for meaning on earth and making a difference. There are many out there in this complex and difficult times presenting real challenges, needing big money, plenty of gray matter, time and political savvy to be dealt with. I truly thank the courageous chefs and citizens of Chicago for standing firm on behalf of our Constitutional Freedoms and thank you for being a rational voice. Guillermo Gonzalez President / Founder Sonoma Foie Gras Sonoma,California I am refreshed and hopeful when reading your articles describing the ingredients used and involved by the anti-foie gras activism : political opportunism, class warfare, anthropomorphism, neglect to multiculturalism, veganism agenda, the activists and politicians megalomania, self-righteousness, hatred, ignorance, contempt, deception, coercion, bigotry, fanaticism, misinformation and media manipulation (propaganda), bullying, frivolous lawsuits, legislation, terrorism, …you name it, I could go on but this is enough to get the “taste” of their actions, strategies and tactics that my family, employees and I have personally been subject to since 2003.
Those who have the chance to read your articles will understand that this is about working towards a meatless society, just a stepping stone in a slippery slope.

The duck is just the pretext for the scandal: If the ducks were mistreated they would never produce the foie gras and superior meat they do. These ducks have the best environment and living conditions in the whole spectrum of animal agriculture. It is in our best business interest to provide them with everything they need to be comfortable.
The anatomy of waterfowl is totally adaptable to the traditional practices of foie gras production. This is not rocket science, it is taking advantage of Nature’s built in mechanisms; no different than a wild cow capacity to produce milk. Obviously, the genetically selected domestic cow will produce many times more than the wild one… well, the same for the duck!

The anti-foie gras activists, politicians and organizations should rather pick and commit to human welfare issues to make sense of their “call” for meaning on earth and making a difference. There are many out there in this complex and difficult times presenting real challenges, needing big money, plenty of gray matter, time and political savvy to be dealt with.

I truly thank the courageous chefs and citizens of Chicago for standing firm on behalf of our Constitutional Freedoms and thank you for being a rational voice.

Guillermo Gonzalez
President / Founder
Sonoma Foie Gras
Sonoma,California

]]> By: pst314 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/08/23/goosing-the-nanny-state-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-295723 pst314 Thu, 24 Aug 2006 01:02:54 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/08/23/goosing-the-nanny-state-in-chicago/#comment-295723 Chicago is called the Windy City because of the hot air that blows from the Democratic Party-controlled city council. Chicago is called the Windy City because of the hot air that blows from the Democratic Party-controlled city council.

]]> By: Ding Fod http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/08/23/goosing-the-nanny-state-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-295309 Ding Fod Wed, 23 Aug 2006 18:36:39 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/08/23/goosing-the-nanny-state-in-chicago/#comment-295309 This comment is about food animal welfare. I sell cattle for a living and used to have hogs as well. Food animals ARE NOT TORTURED OR MADE TO SUFFER in any way. An animal that is suffering and/or is ill will not grow, will not gain weight and will not make the producer money. This is true acrosss the spectrum, regardless of species. What animals want is 1) a steady water & food supply 2)a dry place out of the wind to rest and 3) a desire to breed (if they haven't been neutered. They don't want anything else. This comment is about food animal welfare. I sell cattle for a living and used to have hogs as well. Food animals ARE NOT TORTURED OR MADE TO SUFFER in any way. An animal that is suffering and/or is ill will not grow, will not gain weight and will not make the producer money. This is true acrosss the spectrum, regardless of species. What animals want is 1) a steady water & food supply 2)a dry place out of the wind to rest and 3) a desire to breed (if they haven’t been neutered. They don’t want anything else.

]]> By: ed http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/08/23/goosing-the-nanny-state-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-295148 ed Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:23:08 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/08/23/goosing-the-nanny-state-in-chicago/#comment-295148 Ahh, City of the Broad Shoulders, I can see it now. Quackeasies with secret passwords (Goose Tatum sent me) serving up the ostentatious offal to those in the know. Hidden goose farms just beyond the Des Plaines River, a resurgence in organized crime to sell da foie gras and provide "protection" to the sellers, all headed up by a modern day Al Capon(e). As we have moved away from our agricultural roots, too many people have come to view all animals as they do pets, or as fellow humans. I gave up being a Democrat a long time ago because of the increasing influence of groups such as PETA (well meaning, but still waaay out of the mainstream). Call me old fashioned, but I am more concerned with the suffering of humans than I am the travails of crop animals. Ahh, City of the Broad Shoulders, I can see it now. Quackeasies with secret passwords (Goose Tatum sent me) serving up the ostentatious offal to those in the know. Hidden goose farms just beyond the Des Plaines River, a resurgence in organized crime to sell da foie gras and provide “protection” to the sellers, all headed up by a modern day Al Capon(e).

As we have moved away from our agricultural roots, too many people have come to view all animals as they do pets, or as fellow humans. I gave up being a Democrat a long time ago because of the increasing influence of groups such as PETA (well meaning, but still waaay out of the mainstream). Call me old fashioned, but I am more concerned with the suffering of humans than I am the travails of crop animals.

]]> By: GawainsGhost http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/08/23/goosing-the-nanny-state-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-295048 GawainsGhost Wed, 23 Aug 2006 14:04:30 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/08/23/goosing-the-nanny-state-in-chicago/#comment-295048 I don't know what foie gras is. I've never seen it before in my life, and if I did I probably wouldn't eat it. French food sucks if you ask me. And I'm all for banning it everywhere. Now goose liver, well I know what that is. But I wouldn't eat it either. I don't eat internal organs. Never have, never will. I'm strictly a Grade A Prime sirloin or ribeye, grilled over an open fire, kind of guy. Center cut pork chops or plump whole chicken, well grilled, works for me too. I like fish on occasion. Red snapper for grilling, talapia, coated in corn meal, for frying. That's about it. Howbeit, if some city council passed an ordinance stating that I couldn't fire up a stack of charcoal and mesquite wood to grill my meat on, well I have a 12 guage loaded with rock salt that would definitely have something to say about that. I don’t know what foie gras is. I’ve never seen it before in my life, and if I did I probably wouldn’t eat it. French food sucks if you ask me. And I’m all for banning it everywhere.

Now goose liver, well I know what that is. But I wouldn’t eat it either. I don’t eat internal organs. Never have, never will. I’m strictly a Grade A Prime sirloin or ribeye, grilled over an open fire, kind of guy. Center cut pork chops or plump whole chicken, well grilled, works for me too. I like fish on occasion. Red snapper for grilling, talapia, coated in corn meal, for frying.

That’s about it. Howbeit, if some city council passed an ordinance stating that I couldn’t fire up a stack of charcoal and mesquite wood to grill my meat on, well I have a 12 guage loaded with rock salt that would definitely have something to say about that.

]]> By: Terri http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/08/23/goosing-the-nanny-state-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-294933 Terri Wed, 23 Aug 2006 11:46:54 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/08/23/goosing-the-nanny-state-in-chicago/#comment-294933 Isn't this more about the geese than about the people? The city isnt' trying to take care of people's health here, it's trying to keep geese from being tortured before death. I'm pretty sure the same is required of beef cattle. No torture before slaughter. I think that's a pretty fair thing to do myself. And yes it might be easier to focus on one small thing but it helps pave the way for treating these animals with a certain amount of respect for the life they are giving to us. Are you seriously saying that we need to have livers from geese that have had tubes forced down their throats to be force fed? Isn’t this more about the geese than about the people? The city isnt’ trying to take care of people’s health here, it’s trying to keep geese from being tortured before death. I’m pretty sure the same is required of beef cattle. No torture before slaughter. I think that’s a pretty fair thing to do myself. And yes it might be easier to focus on one small thing but it helps pave the way for treating these animals with a certain amount of respect for the life they are giving to us. Are you seriously saying that we need to have livers from geese that have had tubes forced down their throats to be force fed?

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