To say I told you so. The current mia culpas coming from the right almost cry out for it. I could point out that all of us who criticized this war were called traitors, Bush Haters and worse. But not…

I’m sorry I have trouble making myself clear. The Republicans are not “my guys.” Personally I can’t stand Republicans and I would not know which Jedi mind tricks you would be referring to. Both parties will flat out lie when it serves them and they think they can get away with it. I will not be voting for any Republicans this time around. I will be voting for third party candidates. I’m leaning toward the Constitution party.

The question I suggested that the Aemrican people should pose is why was this not exposed sooner by either Republicans or Democrats. Both parties almost certainly would have known about it.

I could be persuaded to vote for Democrats, if they will make a commitment to allocate the appropiate resources to Iraq to do the job properly and they if will drop the various lies that say “Bush lied” and the variations of these diatribes.

The Republicans have lost all credibility. Right now I am unable to see a situation where I could be persuded to vote for Republicans in November. I say vote for a third party. Give someone a shot at power who currently does not have it.

With the Foley case the important thing is to bring the pervert to justice, if he is commited. Right now he looks very guilty. Also any politician rather they are Republican or Democrat who aided or abeeted him should be brought to justice. No one should use this situation to play partisian politics.

Below echos most of the critics pointing to Brenner’s decisions as the cause of where we are now and, interestingly, point to Garner’s plan as what should have been done. But how one morphs all this to Rumsfeld as the scapegoat is a mystery. He should have resigned or, as Franks, just retired, and maybe that’s his crime.

“The first committee formed to oversee the reconstruction effort was the Office of Reconstruction and Humanitarian Assistance (ORHA), led by Jay Garner who had been involved in humanitarian efforts in Northern Iraq after the first Gulf War. Garner, who began drafting plans for post-Saddam Iraq in early January, arrived in Baghdad at the end of April 2003. His objectives included food delivery, emergency assistance, reestablishing electricity and other basic services, reshaping the Iraqi military, safeguarding Iraq’s infrastructure and uncovering weapons of mass destruction. One of Garner’s most vital objectives was to retain the Iraqi army to utilize it in the reconstruction process as well as to avoid massive unemployment.

Unfortunately, L. Paul Bremer III, who was appointed to lead the newly formed Coalition Provisional Authority (CPO), which ORHA was dissolved into, replaced Garner. Upon his arrival Bremer began a process of “De-Baathification” of the Iraqi army. The Baath party was Saddam Hussein’s former political party. According to The Council on Foreign Relations, Bremer made two “sweeping” orders: one outlawed the Baath party and dismissed all senior officials from their posts; the other dissolved Iraq’s 500,000-member military and intelligence services. Bremer’s actions crippled the reconstruction effort and made it impossible for American troops to withdraw from Iraq. The stage was set for a long, violent and expensive occupation.”
http://towardfreedom.com/home/content/view/790/60/

If the roles were reversed and the Democrats controlled more seats in the House and Senate and it was a Democrat being accused and this was just now coming forward, I would ask the same questions.

Who gives a damn if it’s poltics, your guys are toast. Your Jedi mind tricks won’t work any more.

Hastert is going to spend the next month explaining why he allowed this to happen, and just maybe why he should remain as Speaker of the House.

Please pass the popcorn.

She might want to ask her fellow Democrats why they did not inform her of this before now. Republicans monitoring Democrats and Democrats monitoring Republicans is a full time job. Both parties spend more time monitoring each other than they do looking after the interests of the nation’s citizens.

Either the Democrats who are over seeing the actions of the Republicans did not inform her, she was not paying attention when they did inform her, the Democrats who are over seeing the Republicans are so incomptent that they somehow missed this, or Ms. Pelosi is lying.

I’m not one to accuse people of nefarious activities without proof and I don’t level the charge of incompetence lightly. I am going to assume she and the leadership simply were not paying attention when the leadership was informed. For each party, watching what the other one is doing is a full time job. It seems unlikely they would be so incomptent to have missed this.

The point is both Republican and Democratic Congressional staffers would have known about this for a very long time and an investigation was not started until now. Oversight by both parties of each other is, to an extent, a legitimate function of Government.

As I said earlier, I generally don’t like to accuse people without clear evidence but it looks like this is a case of partisian politics. Oversight of each party by the other is a full time job. If we assume the Democratic party leadership somehow missed this, this requires us to assume they are completely incompetent. They clearly are not. They would have known about this. Staffers in both parties and probably the leaders would have known about this but it is only being reported during an election season. It leads one to believe that if this were not an election season both parties would have allowed a suspected pervert to go scott free. This does not reflect well on the Government as a whole.

If the roles were reversed and the Democrats controlled more seats in the House and Senate and it was a Democrat being accused and this was just now coming forward, I would ask the same questions. Why are the Republicans just now bringing this forward? If they say they did not know, this would mean that even though oversight of the Democrats is a full time job and always has been they were somehow so incompetent they missed it. People don’t rise to the level of Representative or Senator by being incompetent.

In other words, it is highly unlikely that top offfials in both parties did not know about this. Given that they had to have known, they did not come forward with this. Either both parties are to incompetent to have known or they are both corrupt. Either way you look at this, both parties are unfit for the offices they hold and should be voted out.

Finally. Mr. Foley is innocent until proven guilty. This should be investigated and the chips should fall where they may. If he is guilty, and it looks like he is, he should have to pay steep consequences in prison time.

Former White House chief of staff Andrew H. Card Jr. on two occasions tried and failed to persuade

Why was this not stopped? Thats a very good question. If these activities were known about for months by Republican leaders before they went public, they would have also been known about for months by Democratic party leaders.

Umm not so much.

Pelosi, furious that the Democratic leadership were not informed of the situation for nearly an entire year after the emails were discovered, has already demanded and gotten a House Ethics investigation — her resolution passed the House 410 to zero. The House committee on Official Conduct now has ten days to issue a preliminary report on what the Republican leadership knew, when they knew it, and what they did or didn’t do about it.

Heh.

What do you think, boy f*ckers and torture.

Pattern? Anybody?

Squeal like a pig? Boy?