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		<title>By: Terry Boone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Boone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 10:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, those emails were hardly damning. And while suggestive, they weren't exactly hard evidence. Still, you'd think they might have maybe asked around with the other pages. Seems like that might have been a prudent thing to do. Might also have been wise to hold a page committee meeting, so there'd be no hint of coverup in the worst case. Frankly, it just didn't look good. And the media has a big tasty bone to chew on now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, those emails were hardly damning. And while suggestive, they weren&#8217;t exactly hard evidence. Still, you&#8217;d think they might have maybe asked around with the other pages. Seems like that might have been a prudent thing to do. Might also have been wise to hold a page committee meeting, so there&#8217;d be no hint of coverup in the worst case. Frankly, it just didn&#8217;t look good. And the media has a big tasty bone to chew on now.</p>
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		<title>By: brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2006 20:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You poor, poor thing. All you did was try to argue that the repubs having a barely legal loving closeted gay cyberpredator revealed as a member of their leadership proves dems are weak on defense. How could anyone misinterpret that.
Poor dear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You poor, poor thing. All you did was try to argue that the repubs having a barely legal loving closeted gay cyberpredator revealed as a member of their leadership proves dems are weak on defense. How could anyone misinterpret that.<br />
Poor dear.</p>
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		<title>By: Quilly Mammoth</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/10/01/now-i-know-how-alice-felt/comment-page-1/#comment-337727</link>
		<dc:creator>Quilly Mammoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2006 20:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And if they were so sure it was not a problem, why not inform the Democratic member of the oversight group.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, after all Mr. Borden &lt;i&gt;did&lt;/i&gt; buy that ax that dear Lizzie used. Of course, even with that minimal amount of information the Democrats could have launched an effective campaign to get Foley yanked.  But isn't it so much better to wait until 40 days before an election?

If the the St. Petersburg Times, hardly "Faux News", didn't think there was anything that could be persued what makes anyone think that the Republican Causuc could do something?  Now, whomever had the IM's in their possesion sometime in July (or sooner) &lt;i&gt;could&lt;/i&gt; have done something.  And should of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And if they were so sure it was not a problem, why not inform the Democratic member of the oversight group.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, after all Mr. Borden <i>did</i> buy that ax that dear Lizzie used. Of course, even with that minimal amount of information the Democrats could have launched an effective campaign to get Foley yanked.  But isn&#8217;t it so much better to wait until 40 days before an election?</p>
<p>If the the St. Petersburg Times, hardly &#8220;Faux News&#8221;, didn&#8217;t think there was anything that could be persued what makes anyone think that the Republican Causuc could do something?  Now, whomever had the IM&#8217;s in their possesion sometime in July (or sooner) <i>could</i> have done something.  And should of.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Bottoms</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Bottoms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2006 19:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
In this case the emotion â€œLETâ€™S SCREW THE REPUBLICANS!â€
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It's so much more effective when you srew tehm with the truth.

Foley's a creep and the leadership didn't do enough to find out how much of one.

Anyone who has ever been on the receiving end of the attentions of one of these predators, and that would include me, could see from the so-called innocuos email he was hitting on this kid.

And if they were so sure it was not a problem, why not inform the Democratic member of the oversight group. No, they instead informed the National Republican committee. So Ken (I'm not gay) Mehlman has some explaining to do as well.

Heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
In this case the emotion â€œLETâ€™S SCREW THE REPUBLICANS!â€
</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s so much more effective when you srew tehm with the truth.</p>
<p>Foley&#8217;s a creep and the leadership didn&#8217;t do enough to find out how much of one.</p>
<p>Anyone who has ever been on the receiving end of the attentions of one of these predators, and that would include me, could see from the so-called innocuos email he was hitting on this kid.</p>
<p>And if they were so sure it was not a problem, why not inform the Democratic member of the oversight group. No, they instead informed the National Republican committee. So Ken (I&#8217;m not gay) Mehlman has some explaining to do as well.</p>
<p>Heh.</p>
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		<title>By: Fritz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2006 18:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick,
It appears that Democrats would have wanted the Republican leadership to waterboard Foley.  An immediate inquisition should have been undertaken.  Terrorists be dammed!  A Republican is always held in the greatest suspicion!  Why, Senator Dodd compared the Republican leadership to the Catholic Church in handling this matter.  

I'm very happy that Democrats have now come to the Republican side, 16 year olds are children!  Will this mean they will support parental notification for abortions?  Advocate lessor smut on TV and in our schools.  Will access to porn sites at the library be discontinued?  Will condoms on cucumbers be a thing of the past.  I was so pleased to see our grandmother, Congresswoman Harmon, talk about these "at risk" children.  Gone will be the days of adolescents finding their sexuality, they will now be called boys and girls in need of adult supervision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick,<br />
It appears that Democrats would have wanted the Republican leadership to waterboard Foley.  An immediate inquisition should have been undertaken.  Terrorists be dammed!  A Republican is always held in the greatest suspicion!  Why, Senator Dodd compared the Republican leadership to the Catholic Church in handling this matter.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m very happy that Democrats have now come to the Republican side, 16 year olds are children!  Will this mean they will support parental notification for abortions?  Advocate lessor smut on TV and in our schools.  Will access to porn sites at the library be discontinued?  Will condoms on cucumbers be a thing of the past.  I was so pleased to see our grandmother, Congresswoman Harmon, talk about these &#8220;at risk&#8221; children.  Gone will be the days of adolescents finding their sexuality, they will now be called boys and girls in need of adult supervision.</p>
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		<title>By: ajacksonian</title>
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		<dc:creator>ajacksonian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2006 17:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This would be less troubling for me if the House Leadership had not already tried to shield &lt;a href="http://ajacksonian.blogspot.com/2006/05/royalty-quivers-in-peoples-house.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;a democratic member&lt;/a&gt; from investigation:  Rep. Jefferson (D-LA).  I do not like Congress thinking it is above the law, should impede the law and in anyway try to circumvent the law of the land.  This tiny House of Representatives is far too cozy for my liking, and is *not* doing a job of actually understanding their role in the Federal system.  The House of Representatives was never made to be efficient, smooth operating, shielding its members from investigation and, generally, thinking of themselves *first* and the Nation *second*.  That goes for Democrats, too.  

It is disingenuous of any Democrat to point their finger at the House Leadership when it has done as much and *more* to shield one of their members from investigation.  And it continues to push that case up the Court system even after losing the first round.  That said it is better than the *give everything away* Senate that not only wanted "amnesty" for illegals, but wanted to give gifts and presents and then tell the Executive what to do in Foreign Policy.  Both are over-reaches of power and need to be seriously addressed before they get the bright idea that they really should be running *everything*.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This would be less troubling for me if the House Leadership had not already tried to shield <a href="http://ajacksonian.blogspot.com/2006/05/royalty-quivers-in-peoples-house.html" rel="nofollow">a democratic member</a> from investigation:  Rep. Jefferson (D-LA).  I do not like Congress thinking it is above the law, should impede the law and in anyway try to circumvent the law of the land.  This tiny House of Representatives is far too cozy for my liking, and is *not* doing a job of actually understanding their role in the Federal system.  The House of Representatives was never made to be efficient, smooth operating, shielding its members from investigation and, generally, thinking of themselves *first* and the Nation *second*.  That goes for Democrats, too.  </p>
<p>It is disingenuous of any Democrat to point their finger at the House Leadership when it has done as much and *more* to shield one of their members from investigation.  And it continues to push that case up the Court system even after losing the first round.  That said it is better than the *give everything away* Senate that not only wanted &#8220;amnesty&#8221; for illegals, but wanted to give gifts and presents and then tell the Executive what to do in Foreign Policy.  Both are over-reaches of power and need to be seriously addressed before they get the bright idea that they really should be running *everything*.</p>
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		<title>By: Quilly Mammoth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quilly Mammoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2006 16:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's a specific point in the emails from 2005.  The boy says:
&lt;blockquote&gt;But do tell me what you think about it all. I have one friend thinking Iâ€™m being paranoid and the other saying that she thinks it is weird that he even asks for my e-mail, much more what he said.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

He doesn't know which way to think, and his friends aren't sure either. Like the St. Pete Times there just wasn't enough "there" there.

But let's not let facts get in the way of the typical Liberal tendency to make oneâ€™s decision based on raw emotion.  In this case the emotion â€œLETâ€™S SCREW THE REPUBLICANS!â€

Mark Foley is obviously a troubled man who was following the classic stalkerâ€™s profile.  What do you call the people that knew the path he was following and kept it quit for an October Surprise?  What do you call people that mat have risked a child being sexually assaulted for the simple reason of wanting â€œtheir sideâ€ to win?

In this case I call them Democrats, CREW and the Left Wing Smear Machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a specific point in the emails from 2005.  The boy says:</p>
<blockquote><p>But do tell me what you think about it all. I have one friend thinking Iâ€™m being paranoid and the other saying that she thinks it is weird that he even asks for my e-mail, much more what he said.</p></blockquote>
<p>He doesn&#8217;t know which way to think, and his friends aren&#8217;t sure either. Like the St. Pete Times there just wasn&#8217;t enough &#8220;there&#8221; there.</p>
<p>But let&#8217;s not let facts get in the way of the typical Liberal tendency to make oneâ€™s decision based on raw emotion.  In this case the emotion â€œLETâ€™S SCREW THE REPUBLICANS!â€</p>
<p>Mark Foley is obviously a troubled man who was following the classic stalkerâ€™s profile.  What do you call the people that knew the path he was following and kept it quit for an October Surprise?  What do you call people that mat have risked a child being sexually assaulted for the simple reason of wanting â€œtheir sideâ€ to win?</p>
<p>In this case I call them Democrats, CREW and the Left Wing Smear Machine.</p>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Latest Democratic Hitjob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Latest Democratic Hitjob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2006 16:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: GawainsGhost</title>
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		<dc:creator>GawainsGhost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2006 16:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha! I laughed out loud when I read "the reading comprehension of a Llama or the cognitive skills of a Tapir." That's a brilliant analogy for the mind, or should I say the lack of mind, of a leftist.

However, you're mistaken on Alice's expectations of the creatures she encountered in Wonderland, Mr. Moran. She might have been reasonably certain they were blessed with some kind of intelligence before she met them. But after meeting the Red Queen, the Mad Hatter, Humpty Dumpty, Tweedledee and Tweedledum, she was rather quickly disabused of that notion.

Lewis Carroll's masterpiece is actually a study in logic and language. Every encounter Alice has with a creature in Wonderland is a logic puzzle that turns on language. Thus, when Humpty Dumpty says, in a rather scornful tone, "When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean--neither more nor less." Alice responds, "The question is whether you can make words mean so many different things." To which Humpty Dumpty replies, "The question is which is to be master--that's all."

Here, Humpty Dumpty takes the point of view of a nominalist--the view that universal terms do not refer to objective existences but are nothing more than verbal utterances. This is a view that Carroll actually held himself, as he explains in his book Symbolic Logic: "I maintain that any writer of a book is fully authorised in attaching any meaning he likes to any word or phrase he intends to use. If I find an author saying, at the beginning of his book, "Let it be understood that by the word 'black' I shall always mean 'white', and that by the word 'white' I shall always mean 'black'," I meekly accept his ruling, however injudicious I may think it."

Thankfully, Carroll's position did not win out in the long run. For if we are to communicate accurately we have an obligation to avoid the practice of giving private meanings to commonly used words. If we do not, then communication is impossible. We must pay our words extra, otherwise they are the stuff propaganda is made of. Thus, we do have an obligation to past usage. So, in a sense, words are our masters; if they are not, we cannot communicate. But in another sense we are the masters of words. For if we were not, there would be no such thing as poetry.

This goes to the heart of the debate over intentionalism you have alluded to in the past. And you're right, the left doesn't do nuance--they simply intend to be the masters or propagandists of all. Of course, when they fall like Humpty Dumpty, and they will, all the king's horses and all the king's men won't be able to put them back together again.

In Wonderland, Alice has to keep her wits about her, because nothing is as it seems. She has to carefully analyze everything said to her and use logic to arrive at the truth. In this sense, she is much like you. And the blogosphere becomes a lot like Rick Moran in Wonderland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha! I laughed out loud when I read &#8220;the reading comprehension of a Llama or the cognitive skills of a Tapir.&#8221; That&#8217;s a brilliant analogy for the mind, or should I say the lack of mind, of a leftist.</p>
<p>However, you&#8217;re mistaken on Alice&#8217;s expectations of the creatures she encountered in Wonderland, Mr. Moran. She might have been reasonably certain they were blessed with some kind of intelligence before she met them. But after meeting the Red Queen, the Mad Hatter, Humpty Dumpty, Tweedledee and Tweedledum, she was rather quickly disabused of that notion.</p>
<p>Lewis Carroll&#8217;s masterpiece is actually a study in logic and language. Every encounter Alice has with a creature in Wonderland is a logic puzzle that turns on language. Thus, when Humpty Dumpty says, in a rather scornful tone, &#8220;When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean&#8211;neither more nor less.&#8221; Alice responds, &#8220;The question is whether you can make words mean so many different things.&#8221; To which Humpty Dumpty replies, &#8220;The question is which is to be master&#8211;that&#8217;s all.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here, Humpty Dumpty takes the point of view of a nominalist&#8211;the view that universal terms do not refer to objective existences but are nothing more than verbal utterances. This is a view that Carroll actually held himself, as he explains in his book Symbolic Logic: &#8220;I maintain that any writer of a book is fully authorised in attaching any meaning he likes to any word or phrase he intends to use. If I find an author saying, at the beginning of his book, &#8220;Let it be understood that by the word &#8216;black&#8217; I shall always mean &#8216;white&#8217;, and that by the word &#8216;white&#8217; I shall always mean &#8216;black&#8217;,&#8221; I meekly accept his ruling, however injudicious I may think it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thankfully, Carroll&#8217;s position did not win out in the long run. For if we are to communicate accurately we have an obligation to avoid the practice of giving private meanings to commonly used words. If we do not, then communication is impossible. We must pay our words extra, otherwise they are the stuff propaganda is made of. Thus, we do have an obligation to past usage. So, in a sense, words are our masters; if they are not, we cannot communicate. But in another sense we are the masters of words. For if we were not, there would be no such thing as poetry.</p>
<p>This goes to the heart of the debate over intentionalism you have alluded to in the past. And you&#8217;re right, the left doesn&#8217;t do nuance&#8211;they simply intend to be the masters or propagandists of all. Of course, when they fall like Humpty Dumpty, and they will, all the king&#8217;s horses and all the king&#8217;s men won&#8217;t be able to put them back together again.</p>
<p>In Wonderland, Alice has to keep her wits about her, because nothing is as it seems. She has to carefully analyze everything said to her and use logic to arrive at the truth. In this sense, she is much like you. And the blogosphere becomes a lot like Rick Moran in Wonderland.</p>
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		<dc:creator>clarice feldman</dc:creator>
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