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		<title>By: Ultracet.</title>
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		<title>By: Lusidvicel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lusidvicel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: m. blogo</title>
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		<dc:creator>m. blogo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 02:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Foley is innocent, why did he resign? 

What difference does it make who released the information, anyway, when it's obvious that the pages were being told by someone that knew the guy was a pervert over TEN YEARS AGO. 

What _did_ Newt Gingrich know about this, anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Foley is innocent, why did he resign? </p>
<p>What difference does it make who released the information, anyway, when it&#8217;s obvious that the pages were being told by someone that knew the guy was a pervert over TEN YEARS AGO. </p>
<p>What _did_ Newt Gingrich know about this, anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 00:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you taken a look at that Sex Predators site lately?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you taken a look at that Sex Predators site lately?</p>
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		<title>By: Fordson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fordson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 20:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drewsmom, do you have ANY reason at all to believe that the Democrats knew about this before the GOP did?

The GOP had ample opportunity to ENSURE that this came out almost a year ago, and was blown over by now.  They chose not to do that, because they thought they could bury it until after the election - and they didn't give a damn that this guy was going after kids in the meantime - or rather, they considered those pages collateral damage in the culture wars.

They had to destroy the village to save it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drewsmom, do you have ANY reason at all to believe that the Democrats knew about this before the GOP did?</p>
<p>The GOP had ample opportunity to ENSURE that this came out almost a year ago, and was blown over by now.  They chose not to do that, because they thought they could bury it until after the election - and they didn&#8217;t give a damn that this guy was going after kids in the meantime - or rather, they considered those pages collateral damage in the culture wars.</p>
<p>They had to destroy the village to save it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Drewsmom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drewsmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 19:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fordson, NOBODY, knows if the GOP sat on dynamite any more than the dems sat on it and waited till now to release it, sure has come at a convenient time hasn't it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fordson, NOBODY, knows if the GOP sat on dynamite any more than the dems sat on it and waited till now to release it, sure has come at a convenient time hasn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Fordson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fordson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 19:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you think you're being set up and you are saddled with a guy like Foley, the only way to combat that is to take the initiative and break the story on your own, and frame the dialogue - that way you control the timing - the "management," if you will.

You get to really be the party of family values, too - in more than the bumper-sticker sense.  The raw fact is that instead of taking the appropriate action, the GOP thought they could hold this one until after the elections, if not forever - and they lost the ability to frame the issue and the moral high ground.

The Dems had this handed to them because the GOP tried to play the hand they were dealt the best way they could - not by anything else.  So, now the Dems are bad and cynical because they supposedly took what they were given and played the hand THEY were dealt to THEIR best advantage?

You have to be a sucker to get sucker-punched, pal.

The fact that the GOP sat on dynamite even knowing the risk they were taking tells me is that they do not think there is ANY margin at all come election day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you think you&#8217;re being set up and you are saddled with a guy like Foley, the only way to combat that is to take the initiative and break the story on your own, and frame the dialogue - that way you control the timing - the &#8220;management,&#8221; if you will.</p>
<p>You get to really be the party of family values, too - in more than the bumper-sticker sense.  The raw fact is that instead of taking the appropriate action, the GOP thought they could hold this one until after the elections, if not forever - and they lost the ability to frame the issue and the moral high ground.</p>
<p>The Dems had this handed to them because the GOP tried to play the hand they were dealt the best way they could - not by anything else.  So, now the Dems are bad and cynical because they supposedly took what they were given and played the hand THEY were dealt to THEIR best advantage?</p>
<p>You have to be a sucker to get sucker-punched, pal.</p>
<p>The fact that the GOP sat on dynamite even knowing the risk they were taking tells me is that they do not think there is ANY margin at all come election day.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 19:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Jon Sandor:

"ed

Sure, we should â€œquitâ€ calling Clinton a sexual predator. Since nobody is doing it, it will be easy to quit.

Foley had no â€œauthorityâ€ over the pages. You may as well say that as Congressman he had â€œauthorityâ€ over anyone in the US, and that therefore any sexual relationship he had wth any American was improper.

The facts and the law are against you, as evidenced by this kind of grasping at straws. Congressman Stubbes (D) actually engaged in a sexual relationship with a seventeen year old page. Remind me, please, what charges he was brought up on?

There is an argument to be made that this SHOULD be illegal. But it is not illegal at present, and all this hyperventilating about â€œsexual predatorsâ€ and â€œunderage childrenâ€ and â€œminorsâ€ is either confused or malicious."

The only people I've seen work this hard to defend sexual predators are sexual predators. Got something you want to get off your chest, Jonny boy?</description>
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<p>&#8220;ed</p>
<p>Sure, we should â€œquitâ€ calling Clinton a sexual predator. Since nobody is doing it, it will be easy to quit.</p>
<p>Foley had no â€œauthorityâ€ over the pages. You may as well say that as Congressman he had â€œauthorityâ€ over anyone in the US, and that therefore any sexual relationship he had wth any American was improper.</p>
<p>The facts and the law are against you, as evidenced by this kind of grasping at straws. Congressman Stubbes (D) actually engaged in a sexual relationship with a seventeen year old page. Remind me, please, what charges he was brought up on?</p>
<p>There is an argument to be made that this SHOULD be illegal. But it is not illegal at present, and all this hyperventilating about â€œsexual predatorsâ€ and â€œunderage childrenâ€ and â€œminorsâ€ is either confused or malicious.&#8221;</p>
<p>The only people I&#8217;ve seen work this hard to defend sexual predators are sexual predators. Got something you want to get off your chest, Jonny boy?</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Moran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Moran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 18:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea that this entire incident wasn't "managed" as a political ploy is laughable.

And who's spinning anything except Democrats trying to smear the entire Republican party. 

That website with the emails was as fake as a three dollar bill and was established solely for that purpose. Yeah right...3 different ex pages and interns who got hit on by Foley just happened to find this website that came into being a week after CREW got a hold of the emails and that nobody ever heard of. Santa Claus is coming to town if you believe that.

The whole thing stinks of politics - which makes the Democrats caterwalling about "the kids" so hypocritical as to make me want to vomit.

Foley was a Republican disaster waiting to happen. Unforced in that respect, yes. But the outing was as carefully stage managed as any campaign event you're likely to see. 

Grow up and smell the coffee. This is how the game is played on both sides. If you can't take it, go back and play with your X-box.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea that this entire incident wasn&#8217;t &#8220;managed&#8221; as a political ploy is laughable.</p>
<p>And who&#8217;s spinning anything except Democrats trying to smear the entire Republican party. </p>
<p>That website with the emails was as fake as a three dollar bill and was established solely for that purpose. Yeah right&#8230;3 different ex pages and interns who got hit on by Foley just happened to find this website that came into being a week after CREW got a hold of the emails and that nobody ever heard of. Santa Claus is coming to town if you believe that.</p>
<p>The whole thing stinks of politics - which makes the Democrats caterwalling about &#8220;the kids&#8221; so hypocritical as to make me want to vomit.</p>
<p>Foley was a Republican disaster waiting to happen. Unforced in that respect, yes. But the outing was as carefully stage managed as any campaign event you&#8217;re likely to see. </p>
<p>Grow up and smell the coffee. This is how the game is played on both sides. If you can&#8217;t take it, go back and play with your X-box.</p>
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		<title>By: Fordson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fordson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 18:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spare ME, guy - this is apparently Abramoff, Part Deux to you - you are furiously spinning this to attempt to involve Democrats in any convoluted way possible, even if only by irresponsible, unsupported assertion.

Hey, when all you have is a hammer...

And don't give me any crap about when CREW first got these, or some such - you were referring to the probable gossipping among the pages themselves and to staffers, which if it occurred (not saying it didn't) OBVIOUSLY predated any third parties/blogs/MSM cluing in.

Pitiful.

This episode was not a put-up, not a set-up, not a sting, not entrapment.  This was your basic unforced error.

If you know otherwise, then put up. Otherwise shut up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spare ME, guy - this is apparently Abramoff, Part Deux to you - you are furiously spinning this to attempt to involve Democrats in any convoluted way possible, even if only by irresponsible, unsupported assertion.</p>
<p>Hey, when all you have is a hammer&#8230;</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t give me any crap about when CREW first got these, or some such - you were referring to the probable gossipping among the pages themselves and to staffers, which if it occurred (not saying it didn&#8217;t) OBVIOUSLY predated any third parties/blogs/MSM cluing in.</p>
<p>Pitiful.</p>
<p>This episode was not a put-up, not a set-up, not a sting, not entrapment.  This was your basic unforced error.</p>
<p>If you know otherwise, then put up. Otherwise shut up.</p>
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