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		<title>By: Rhymes With Right</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhymes With Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 12:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Watcher's Council Results&lt;/strong&gt;

The winning entries in the Watcher's Council vote for this week are The March of Folly by Joshuapundit, and Why Intellectuals Love Defeat by TCS Daily.&#160; You can find the full results of the vote over at Watcher of Wasels.&#160;...</description>
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<p>The winning entries in the Watcher&#8217;s Council vote for this week are The March of Folly by Joshuapundit, and Why Intellectuals Love Defeat by TCS Daily.&nbsp; You can find the full results of the vote over at Watcher of Wasels.&nbsp;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Watcher of Weasels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Watcher of Weasels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Council Has Spoken!&lt;/strong&gt;

First off...&#160; any spambots reading this should immediately go here, here, here,&#160; and here.&#160; Die spambots, die!&#160; And now...&#160; the winning entries in the Watcher's Council vote for this week are The March of Folly by Joshuapundit...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Council Has Spoken!</strong></p>
<p>First off&#8230;&nbsp; any spambots reading this should immediately go here, here, here,&nbsp; and here.&nbsp; Die spambots, die!&nbsp; And now&#8230;&nbsp; the winning entries in the Watcher&#8217;s Council vote for this week are The March of Folly by Joshuapundit&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Glittering Eye &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Eye on the Watcher&#8217;s Council</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Glittering Eye &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Eye on the Watcher&#8217;s Council</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: AMERICAN FUTURE - Trying to make sense of a world in turmoil &#187; This Week&#8217;s Watcher&#8217;s Council Nominations</title>
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		<dc:creator>AMERICAN FUTURE - Trying to make sense of a world in turmoil &#187; This Week&#8217;s Watcher&#8217;s Council Nominations</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Watcher of Weasels</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/11/10/the-slaughter-of-the-moderates/comment-page-1/#comment-399259</link>
		<dc:creator>Watcher of Weasels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Submitted for Your Approval&lt;/strong&gt;

First off...&#160; any spambots reading this should immediately go here, here, here,&#160; and here.&#160; Die spambots, die!&#160; And now...&#160; here are all the links submitted by members of the Watcher's Council for this week's vote. Council li...</description>
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<p>First off&#8230;&nbsp; any spambots reading this should immediately go here, here, here,&nbsp; and here.&nbsp; Die spambots, die!&nbsp; And now&#8230;&nbsp; here are all the links submitted by members of the Watcher&#8217;s Council for this week&#8217;s vote. Council li&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: okalokee</title>
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		<dc:creator>okalokee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 01:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62;&#62;Jeff Said:
&#62;&#62;I donâ€™t get why people are â€œafraidâ€ of
&#62;&#62;Social/family values Conservatives.
&#62;&#62;20 years ago, I believe most people
&#62;&#62;lived their lives with basically the
&#62;&#62;same â€œscaryâ€ morality Social Conservatives
&#62;&#62;espouse today. American Society as a whole
&#62;&#62;has moved to the left, and the traditional
&#62;&#62;American values that built this great
&#62;&#62;Country have seemingly all but disappeared.

Well, what exactly do you mean by "social value" or "family value"?  To one person it means a decent minimum wage and affordable health care; to another person it means banning gay marriage.  What you may see as loose-morals liberal dreck coming out of an out-of-touch Hollywood, I may see as sexist high-profit shlock from a moneygrubbing media industry made possible by excessive deregulation of our public airwaves -- and we can both see this as a "values" or even a "morals" issue.

As a fiscally-conservative, socially-liberal Independent, what makes me "afraid" of "social/family values Conservatives" is that they've demonstrated that their version of "family values" is largely focused on what people do in their own bedrooms, with their bodies, and on their own computers and TV screens.  They've approached  incredibly complex issues like abortion and gay rights with vitriol and myopic extremism, while largely ignoring _real_ family issues that affect millions like meaningful jobs, affordable health care and childcare, quality mass education, the shrinking middle class, etc. 

I groaned when I saw Bill Clinton sharing a stage with Al Sharpton back in the 90's.  But seeing Pat Robertson and James Dobson being all buddy-buddy with President Bush after Robertson publicly blamed gays and lesbians for causing 9/11?  Now that's frightening.

Get a Goldwater on the ticket, and you'll get the Independent vote again.  Until then, I'll take my chances with marginally competent Democratic Party focused on Iraq over a wingnut Republican Party focused on gays and stem cells.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Jeff Said:<br />
&gt;&gt;I donâ€™t get why people are â€œafraidâ€ of<br />
&gt;&gt;Social/family values Conservatives.<br />
&gt;&gt;20 years ago, I believe most people<br />
&gt;&gt;lived their lives with basically the<br />
&gt;&gt;same â€œscaryâ€ morality Social Conservatives<br />
&gt;&gt;espouse today. American Society as a whole<br />
&gt;&gt;has moved to the left, and the traditional<br />
&gt;&gt;American values that built this great<br />
&gt;&gt;Country have seemingly all but disappeared.</p>
<p>Well, what exactly do you mean by &#8220;social value&#8221; or &#8220;family value&#8221;?  To one person it means a decent minimum wage and affordable health care; to another person it means banning gay marriage.  What you may see as loose-morals liberal dreck coming out of an out-of-touch Hollywood, I may see as sexist high-profit shlock from a moneygrubbing media industry made possible by excessive deregulation of our public airwaves &#8212; and we can both see this as a &#8220;values&#8221; or even a &#8220;morals&#8221; issue.</p>
<p>As a fiscally-conservative, socially-liberal Independent, what makes me &#8220;afraid&#8221; of &#8220;social/family values Conservatives&#8221; is that they&#8217;ve demonstrated that their version of &#8220;family values&#8221; is largely focused on what people do in their own bedrooms, with their bodies, and on their own computers and TV screens.  They&#8217;ve approached  incredibly complex issues like abortion and gay rights with vitriol and myopic extremism, while largely ignoring _real_ family issues that affect millions like meaningful jobs, affordable health care and childcare, quality mass education, the shrinking middle class, etc. </p>
<p>I groaned when I saw Bill Clinton sharing a stage with Al Sharpton back in the 90&#8217;s.  But seeing Pat Robertson and James Dobson being all buddy-buddy with President Bush after Robertson publicly blamed gays and lesbians for causing 9/11?  Now that&#8217;s frightening.</p>
<p>Get a Goldwater on the ticket, and you&#8217;ll get the Independent vote again.  Until then, I&#8217;ll take my chances with marginally competent Democratic Party focused on Iraq over a wingnut Republican Party focused on gays and stem cells.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 14:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes, leaving "communities alone to govern as they see fit" is not such a great idea.  Think Jim Crowe.  Mobs, I mean communities sometimes decide that someones civil rights are not so important, and it is against "their values" to allow some other American the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.  I am glad for federal do-gooders in some cases.  Because my civil rights are not up for negotiation or a vote.  

You need to deal with the reality, xenophone, that the Constitution of the United States is not there for you to alter and shit around with.  The government exists to enforce the constitution.  It is not subject to your whims, my son.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes, leaving &#8220;communities alone to govern as they see fit&#8221; is not such a great idea.  Think Jim Crowe.  Mobs, I mean communities sometimes decide that someones civil rights are not so important, and it is against &#8220;their values&#8221; to allow some other American the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.  I am glad for federal do-gooders in some cases.  Because my civil rights are not up for negotiation or a vote.  </p>
<p>You need to deal with the reality, xenophone, that the Constitution of the United States is not there for you to alter and shit around with.  The government exists to enforce the constitution.  It is not subject to your whims, my son.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 04:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is all very interesting.  I tend to agree with the aggregate of the comments that the problem is that the GOP gave up on Goldwater conservatism and embraced big government conservatism.  I did my own analysis of the election and found that there are very few "red" states left, at least not this year.  The upper midwest and the northeast are now very blue.  This is quite disconcerting for Republicans, as these regions were fairly divided between the parties after 2004.  Sure, states like Massachusetts were blue long before this election, but New Hampshire used to have two GOP House members, CT had another two, PA, OH, IN...they all lost a number of Republicans.  And it adds up.  The region went from about 50/50 to 70/30 Democrat/Republican in the balance of power.  That's a huge shift.  Absolutely huge.

My analysis also shows that the West can be divided into three or four parts.  The prairie west, states like the Dakotas, Kansas, Oklahoma, these are still red.  The West Coast, Cali, Oregon, etc, are blue.  The mountain west and the southwest are getting pretty purple.  The southwest is slightly more amenable to Democrats than the mountain west; the folks of Idaho still don't quite trust the Dems, but no longer have any love for the GOP.

So basically the GOP has its base in the south and a few prairie states while the Dems have their base in the northeast, the west coast, and now the midwest.  The question is, will the Dems listen to their new moderate overlords in the midwest, or will they push them right back out of the tent?  If the midwesterners moderate the Dems, the GOP will have a really hard time winning back the House for the foreseeable future.  The West is just sort of observing all of this as if all we easterners are crazy (and perhaps they're right) and I really get the impression that westerners are sort of waiting for the right time to send another Ronald Reagan out here on a white horse to clean up our mess, which is what they usually have to do.

Advice to Republicans for 2008: find a Bill Clinton.  That is, find someone who can win the blue states, the way Clinton won all those red southern states after 1994.  McCain and Giuliani seem the best bets right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all very interesting.  I tend to agree with the aggregate of the comments that the problem is that the GOP gave up on Goldwater conservatism and embraced big government conservatism.  I did my own analysis of the election and found that there are very few &#8220;red&#8221; states left, at least not this year.  The upper midwest and the northeast are now very blue.  This is quite disconcerting for Republicans, as these regions were fairly divided between the parties after 2004.  Sure, states like Massachusetts were blue long before this election, but New Hampshire used to have two GOP House members, CT had another two, PA, OH, IN&#8230;they all lost a number of Republicans.  And it adds up.  The region went from about 50/50 to 70/30 Democrat/Republican in the balance of power.  That&#8217;s a huge shift.  Absolutely huge.</p>
<p>My analysis also shows that the West can be divided into three or four parts.  The prairie west, states like the Dakotas, Kansas, Oklahoma, these are still red.  The West Coast, Cali, Oregon, etc, are blue.  The mountain west and the southwest are getting pretty purple.  The southwest is slightly more amenable to Democrats than the mountain west; the folks of Idaho still don&#8217;t quite trust the Dems, but no longer have any love for the GOP.</p>
<p>So basically the GOP has its base in the south and a few prairie states while the Dems have their base in the northeast, the west coast, and now the midwest.  The question is, will the Dems listen to their new moderate overlords in the midwest, or will they push them right back out of the tent?  If the midwesterners moderate the Dems, the GOP will have a really hard time winning back the House for the foreseeable future.  The West is just sort of observing all of this as if all we easterners are crazy (and perhaps they&#8217;re right) and I really get the impression that westerners are sort of waiting for the right time to send another Ronald Reagan out here on a white horse to clean up our mess, which is what they usually have to do.</p>
<p>Advice to Republicans for 2008: find a Bill Clinton.  That is, find someone who can win the blue states, the way Clinton won all those red southern states after 1994.  McCain and Giuliani seem the best bets right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 13:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that one of the problems for us this year was that we seemed to have abandoned too many of our core principles.

1. Big spending/big government. We are now drastically more in debt than ever.

2. Abandonment of the military. We are sending our soldiers off to Iraq and not providing them with adequate armor and other supplies when they are there, and when they return wounded, they are not given proper support. I read an article about how huge numbers of soldiers' wives are on food stamps and have to go to soup kitchens to get food while their husbands are in Iraq. Not to put to fine a point on it, but WHAT THE HELL IS THAT? And under those circumstances, would you want to send your noble, idealistic child to fight in that war as it is being run now?

3. We are not standing up for individual liberties. We have always stood for the right of the individual, as in the right to own guns to protect ourselves. But now it's OUR party that wants to give up the right for people to have privacy in their own homes. When did we become such freaking cowards over one terrorist attack? It was a terrible thing, but just as I'll protect my right to own a gun, I want to protect my right to make a phone call to my doctor without having the government know all the gory details!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that one of the problems for us this year was that we seemed to have abandoned too many of our core principles.</p>
<p>1. Big spending/big government. We are now drastically more in debt than ever.</p>
<p>2. Abandonment of the military. We are sending our soldiers off to Iraq and not providing them with adequate armor and other supplies when they are there, and when they return wounded, they are not given proper support. I read an article about how huge numbers of soldiers&#8217; wives are on food stamps and have to go to soup kitchens to get food while their husbands are in Iraq. Not to put to fine a point on it, but WHAT THE HELL IS THAT? And under those circumstances, would you want to send your noble, idealistic child to fight in that war as it is being run now?</p>
<p>3. We are not standing up for individual liberties. We have always stood for the right of the individual, as in the right to own guns to protect ourselves. But now it&#8217;s OUR party that wants to give up the right for people to have privacy in their own homes. When did we become such freaking cowards over one terrorist attack? It was a terrible thing, but just as I&#8217;ll protect my right to own a gun, I want to protect my right to make a phone call to my doctor without having the government know all the gory details!</p>
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		<title>By: JimmyBob</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimmyBob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 00:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You say, "...the GOP is now truly a conservative party, the kind envisioned by Ronald Reagan and Barry Goldwater many years ago."  My God, son...you may have known RR but you clearly have no clue what BG was about.  He wanted government out of our lives except for defense against attack, plus building roads, dams, bridges and schools.  Gay marriage?  Abortion?  Personal choices, not government's business.  He would have gone into orbit at the first sign of Jesus on the Campaign Trail.  He would've personally throttled anyone who got this country into the kind of debt we're in now.  Barry Goldwater? You're dreaming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say, &#8220;&#8230;the GOP is now truly a conservative party, the kind envisioned by Ronald Reagan and Barry Goldwater many years ago.&#8221;  My God, son&#8230;you may have known RR but you clearly have no clue what BG was about.  He wanted government out of our lives except for defense against attack, plus building roads, dams, bridges and schools.  Gay marriage?  Abortion?  Personal choices, not government&#8217;s business.  He would have gone into orbit at the first sign of Jesus on the Campaign Trail.  He would&#8217;ve personally throttled anyone who got this country into the kind of debt we&#8217;re in now.  Barry Goldwater? You&#8217;re dreaming.</p>
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