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		<title>By: Wry Mouth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wry Mouth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 20:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Democratic Headliner November 12&lt;/strong&gt;

Nov. 12

Chairman Howard Dean issued this statement. Radio implants in his head were able to detect his unspoken thoughts as well! ...</description>
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<p>Nov. 12</p>
<p>Chairman Howard Dean issued this statement. Radio implants in his head were able to detect his unspoken thoughts as well! &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Arnold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 22:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SSHiell - &lt;i&gt;Any and all communication sources are fair game and there does not need to be any court allowance in order to do the surveillance, use the information for arrest, or even use the information for trial.&lt;/i&gt;
Is it really the case that wiretap evidence is admissible as evidence in UK courts, or are you saying something weaker here? My understanding (however IANAL) is that the UK has a rule against use of wiretap-based evidence in court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SSHiell - <i>Any and all communication sources are fair game and there does not need to be any court allowance in order to do the surveillance, use the information for arrest, or even use the information for trial.</i><br />
Is it really the case that wiretap evidence is admissible as evidence in UK courts, or are you saying something weaker here? My understanding (however IANAL) is that the UK has a rule against use of wiretap-based evidence in court.</p>
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		<title>By: SShiell</title>
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		<dc:creator>SShiell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"You give these guys way too much credit. Shit, you act like theyâ€™re smarter than we are. What gives?"

It has nothing to do with how smart one is but it has everything to do with how determined.

A little history lesson:  Half of the US Navyâ€™s casualties in World War Two came in the last 12 month of the war in the Pacific and is directly attributable to Japanese Kamikaze attacks.  It is the end of the year, 1944.  The war in the Pacific is virtually over.  The Japanese Navy is but a shell of its former glory.  Their merchant fleet has lost over 4 million tons of shipping sunk by the US submarine service.  The Japanese mainland is facing starvation from this devastation.  In a very short time, Saipan and then Iwo Jima will fall and the B-29s will start the bombing of the Japanese mainland.  The Japanese resort to Kamikaze, Divine Wind, attacks and they create horrendous casualties among the US Pacific Fleet.

These suicide attacks were intended to save the Emperor.  The Japanese high command felt if they could inflict horrendous casualties on the US, then they might be able to bring us to the Peace Table and end the war before the war brought the total destruction of their society.

And therein lays the basic difference between the same types of actions from World War Two to today.  I do not give these guys any credit at all.  But they still scare me.  Why?

A passage from the Ayatollah Khomeini, quoted in an 11th-grade Iranian schoolbook. "I am decisively announcing to the whole world that if the world-devourers [i.e., the infidel powers] wish to stand against our religion, we will stand against their whole world and will not cease until the annihilation of all them. Either we all become free, or we will go to the greater freedom which is martyrdom. Either we shake one another's hands in joy at the victory of Islam in the world, or all of us will turn to eternal life and martyrdom. In both cases, victory and success are ours." 

In this context, mutual assured destruction, the deterrent that worked so well during the Cold War, would have no meaning. At the end of time, there will be general destruction anyway. What will matter will be the final destination of the dead--hell for the infidels, and heaven for the believers. For people with this mindset, MAD is not a constraint; it is an inducement.

The previous two paragraphs were taken from: http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110008768

Their intent has nothing to do with the salvation of their society or their religion or their way of life.  Suicide is their ends to a means.  If they die as a suicide in the name of Allah, they go to Paradise.  They win.  If all die, and I mean ALL, then they still go to Paradise and they still win.  If that type of attitude does not scare the crap out of you, then you are blind to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You give these guys way too much credit. Shit, you act like theyâ€™re smarter than we are. What gives?&#8221;</p>
<p>It has nothing to do with how smart one is but it has everything to do with how determined.</p>
<p>A little history lesson:  Half of the US Navyâ€™s casualties in World War Two came in the last 12 month of the war in the Pacific and is directly attributable to Japanese Kamikaze attacks.  It is the end of the year, 1944.  The war in the Pacific is virtually over.  The Japanese Navy is but a shell of its former glory.  Their merchant fleet has lost over 4 million tons of shipping sunk by the US submarine service.  The Japanese mainland is facing starvation from this devastation.  In a very short time, Saipan and then Iwo Jima will fall and the B-29s will start the bombing of the Japanese mainland.  The Japanese resort to Kamikaze, Divine Wind, attacks and they create horrendous casualties among the US Pacific Fleet.</p>
<p>These suicide attacks were intended to save the Emperor.  The Japanese high command felt if they could inflict horrendous casualties on the US, then they might be able to bring us to the Peace Table and end the war before the war brought the total destruction of their society.</p>
<p>And therein lays the basic difference between the same types of actions from World War Two to today.  I do not give these guys any credit at all.  But they still scare me.  Why?</p>
<p>A passage from the Ayatollah Khomeini, quoted in an 11th-grade Iranian schoolbook. &#8220;I am decisively announcing to the whole world that if the world-devourers [i.e., the infidel powers] wish to stand against our religion, we will stand against their whole world and will not cease until the annihilation of all them. Either we all become free, or we will go to the greater freedom which is martyrdom. Either we shake one another&#8217;s hands in joy at the victory of Islam in the world, or all of us will turn to eternal life and martyrdom. In both cases, victory and success are ours.&#8221; </p>
<p>In this context, mutual assured destruction, the deterrent that worked so well during the Cold War, would have no meaning. At the end of time, there will be general destruction anyway. What will matter will be the final destination of the dead&#8211;hell for the infidels, and heaven for the believers. For people with this mindset, MAD is not a constraint; it is an inducement.</p>
<p>The previous two paragraphs were taken from: <a href="http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110008768" rel="nofollow">http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110008768</a></p>
<p>Their intent has nothing to do with the salvation of their society or their religion or their way of life.  Suicide is their ends to a means.  If they die as a suicide in the name of Allah, they go to Paradise.  They win.  If all die, and I mean ALL, then they still go to Paradise and they still win.  If that type of attitude does not scare the crap out of you, then you are blind to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Ross @ Journal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Ross @ Journal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The No Zone&lt;/strong&gt;

Democrats claim they want energy independence, but their strategy is nonsensical, to say the least. Their so-called strategy? I encourage you to read their position paper because I'm not making this stuff up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The No Zone</strong></p>
<p>Democrats claim they want energy independence, but their strategy is nonsensical, to say the least. Their so-called strategy? I encourage you to read their position paper because I&#8217;m not making this stuff up.</p>
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		<title>By: scarshapedstar</title>
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		<dc:creator>scarshapedstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 07:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;That latter point is most important. You see, in your desire to be politically correct and multiculturally sensitive and all that, it seems to me that you've failed to note that the enemy we face - while not a nation state in the traditional sense - is nevertheless bound together by an ideology that has nothing to do with race, little to do with God, but much to do about control. The impulse to dominate combined with powerful religious justifications is what drives this ultimately fascist movement.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Okay, that's great. They're motivated. You know those guys who went "over the top" in WWI and died by the thousands? They were motivated, too. And yet they got turned into swiss cheese. Shit, I'm sure they hated the other guys just as much as the Muslamonazis hate us, and vice versa - yet those pesky laws of physics wouldn't bend to stop the bullets from the enemy machine guns from going right through their torsos. Similarly, "They HATE us and want to kill us ALL!" doesn't leave me quaking in my boots, for reasons similar to the way that OSU isn't afraid that I really, really, really, really want the Yellow Jackets to be the national champions this year. You ascribe superhuman powers to average psychopaths for no discernible reason.

And that's what I'll never understand about modern conservatism. You guys insist that you're all super patriots and have the utmost confidence in the ability of America, and especially the armed forces thereof, to get the job done. And yet you cower in fear at The Bedouin Threat. Why? For christ's sake, what do they have, besides   guns and knives? You know full well that the only reason they got away with 9/11 was because up until then everyone assumed they'd walk away from a hijacking. That's it. That's the only reason. They have no superhuman competence or technological wizardry. Their big moment of glory, turning our own high-energy machines against us, was a complete one-trick pony. I know, I know; the mere fact that they haven't hit us again yet means they're planning something so deadly, so devious, so unstoppable blah blah blah.

You give these guys way too much credit. Shit, you act like they're smarter than we are. What gives?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That latter point is most important. You see, in your desire to be politically correct and multiculturally sensitive and all that, it seems to me that you&#8217;ve failed to note that the enemy we face - while not a nation state in the traditional sense - is nevertheless bound together by an ideology that has nothing to do with race, little to do with God, but much to do about control. The impulse to dominate combined with powerful religious justifications is what drives this ultimately fascist movement.</p></blockquote>
<p>Okay, that&#8217;s great. They&#8217;re motivated. You know those guys who went &#8220;over the top&#8221; in WWI and died by the thousands? They were motivated, too. And yet they got turned into swiss cheese. Shit, I&#8217;m sure they hated the other guys just as much as the Muslamonazis hate us, and vice versa - yet those pesky laws of physics wouldn&#8217;t bend to stop the bullets from the enemy machine guns from going right through their torsos. Similarly, &#8220;They HATE us and want to kill us ALL!&#8221; doesn&#8217;t leave me quaking in my boots, for reasons similar to the way that OSU isn&#8217;t afraid that I really, really, really, really want the Yellow Jackets to be the national champions this year. You ascribe superhuman powers to average psychopaths for no discernible reason.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s what I&#8217;ll never understand about modern conservatism. You guys insist that you&#8217;re all super patriots and have the utmost confidence in the ability of America, and especially the armed forces thereof, to get the job done. And yet you cower in fear at The Bedouin Threat. Why? For christ&#8217;s sake, what do they have, besides   guns and knives? You know full well that the only reason they got away with 9/11 was because up until then everyone assumed they&#8217;d walk away from a hijacking. That&#8217;s it. That&#8217;s the only reason. They have no superhuman competence or technological wizardry. Their big moment of glory, turning our own high-energy machines against us, was a complete one-trick pony. I know, I know; the mere fact that they haven&#8217;t hit us again yet means they&#8217;re planning something so deadly, so devious, so unstoppable blah blah blah.</p>
<p>You give these guys way too much credit. Shit, you act like they&#8217;re smarter than we are. What gives?</p>
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		<title>By: SShiell</title>
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		<dc:creator>SShiell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 07:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another example of the difference is the British and US laws:  In Britain, the authorities can detain and hold a suspect for 28 days without charges being filed.  He is not under arrest, he is merely being "detained".  At the end of 28 days, charges must be filed or the suspect must be released.  here in the US, a suspect generally can only be held for 48 hours before charges must be filed.

Again, I do not think you would advocate changing our laws to mimic the British system just because it "works".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another example of the difference is the British and US laws:  In Britain, the authorities can detain and hold a suspect for 28 days without charges being filed.  He is not under arrest, he is merely being &#8220;detained&#8221;.  At the end of 28 days, charges must be filed or the suspect must be released.  here in the US, a suspect generally can only be held for 48 hours before charges must be filed.</p>
<p>Again, I do not think you would advocate changing our laws to mimic the British system just because it &#8220;works&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: SShiell</title>
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		<dc:creator>SShiell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 07:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Law enforcement is working well for the British."

Not so fast there, Bill.  The British Anti-Terrorism Laws make the Patriot Act seem like child's play.  Law enforcement works for the British because there is not the same respect for privacy in the British system as there is in ours.  They do not play with the same set of rules that we have.  Our Constitution, even with the Patriot Act in place, handcuffs our law enforcement agencies.  (And as much as the Left complains otherwise, the Constitution is still the law of this land)

Example: Surveillance.  The controls for internal surveillance in Britain are not the same as in the US.  The contoversial NSA "domestic" surveillance programs have to have a foreign communication source - not so in Britain.  Any and all communication sources are fair game and there does not need to be any court allowance in order to do the surveillance, use the information for arrest, or even use the information for trial.  Why or How can this be?  Becasue the British system trusts the law enforcement agencies of their country in ways we do not.

And in the final analysis, I do not think you would advocate changing our laws to mimic the British system just because it works.

Didn't think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Law enforcement is working well for the British.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not so fast there, Bill.  The British Anti-Terrorism Laws make the Patriot Act seem like child&#8217;s play.  Law enforcement works for the British because there is not the same respect for privacy in the British system as there is in ours.  They do not play with the same set of rules that we have.  Our Constitution, even with the Patriot Act in place, handcuffs our law enforcement agencies.  (And as much as the Left complains otherwise, the Constitution is still the law of this land)</p>
<p>Example: Surveillance.  The controls for internal surveillance in Britain are not the same as in the US.  The contoversial NSA &#8220;domestic&#8221; surveillance programs have to have a foreign communication source - not so in Britain.  Any and all communication sources are fair game and there does not need to be any court allowance in order to do the surveillance, use the information for arrest, or even use the information for trial.  Why or How can this be?  Becasue the British system trusts the law enforcement agencies of their country in ways we do not.</p>
<p>And in the final analysis, I do not think you would advocate changing our laws to mimic the British system just because it works.</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t think so.</p>
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		<title>By: wrymouth</title>
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		<dc:creator>wrymouth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 06:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dean's posted an amusing little blurb on Rumsfield's resignation at te Democratic website. I wonder if he meant it to be funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dean&#8217;s posted an amusing little blurb on Rumsfield&#8217;s resignation at te Democratic website. I wonder if he meant it to be funny.</p>
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		<title>By: zaq</title>
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		<dc:creator>zaq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 05:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a good and true post.

People like Johnny who think Rumsfeld is to stuborn to change his strategy should read his speech just given in Kansas. They just fired one of the most visionary members of government.
  http://www.defenselink.mil/Transcripts/Transcript.aspx?TranscriptID=3781

Sirius, I think it was when the State Department became old enough to have such an entrenched bureaucy with outdated views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a good and true post.</p>
<p>People like Johnny who think Rumsfeld is to stuborn to change his strategy should read his speech just given in Kansas. They just fired one of the most visionary members of government.<br />
  <a href="http://www.defenselink.mil/Transcripts/Transcript.aspx?TranscriptID=3781" rel="nofollow">http://www.defenselink.mil/Transcripts/Transcript.aspx?TranscriptID=3781</a></p>
<p>Sirius, I think it was when the State Department became old enough to have such an entrenched bureaucy with outdated views.</p>
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		<title>By: Sirius Familiaris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sirius Familiaris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 04:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our newly elected leaders in Congress would prefer to see the entire Iraq mission fail than see it through to its only acceptable conclusion.  

I wouldn't be surprised if some of these lousy bastards are cutting deals with Syrians and Iranians on the side, anticipating that we evil Americans will be forced to take a bite of a very big humble pie as our forces are prematurely withdrawn from Iraq.

When did the United States forget how to win wars?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our newly elected leaders in Congress would prefer to see the entire Iraq mission fail than see it through to its only acceptable conclusion.  </p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if some of these lousy bastards are cutting deals with Syrians and Iranians on the side, anticipating that we evil Americans will be forced to take a bite of a very big humble pie as our forces are prematurely withdrawn from Iraq.</p>
<p>When did the United States forget how to win wars?</p>
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