Comments on: AND SO IT BEGINS: HIZBULLAH TAKES TO THE STREETS http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/12/01/and-so-it-begins-hizbullah-takes-to-the-streets/ Politics served up with a smile... And a stilletto. Thu, 30 Apr 2026 20:09:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: jpe http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/12/01/and-so-it-begins-hizbullah-takes-to-the-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-424119 jpe Sun, 03 Dec 2006 03:10:37 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/12/01/and-so-it-begins-hizbullah-takes-to-the-streets/#comment-424119 <a href="http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/krauthammer032706.asp" rel="nofollow">Here</a>, Krauthammer asserts that the Iraqi war could ameliorate the root causes of terrorism: <blockquote>The cauldron of political oppression, religious intolerance, and social ruin in the Arab-Islamic world — oppression transmuted and deflected by regimes with no legitimacy into virulent, murderous anti-Americanism.</blockquote> In short, an Iraq free of Saddam would become politically free, religiously tolerant, socially harmonious, and pro-America. This bizarre thesis was asserted, but rarely did anyone get into the mechanism by which the ability to vote would transform a region shot through with a morbid, inherently oppressive religion. Here, Krauthammer asserts that the Iraqi war could ameliorate the root causes of terrorism:

The cauldron of political oppression, religious intolerance, and social ruin in the Arab-Islamic world — oppression transmuted and deflected by regimes with no legitimacy into virulent, murderous anti-Americanism.

In short, an Iraq free of Saddam would become politically free, religiously tolerant, socially harmonious, and pro-America. This bizarre thesis was asserted, but rarely did anyone get into the mechanism by which the ability to vote would transform a region shot through with a morbid, inherently oppressive religion.

]]> By: jpe http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/12/01/and-so-it-begins-hizbullah-takes-to-the-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-424101 jpe Sun, 03 Dec 2006 02:40:01 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/12/01/and-so-it-begins-hizbullah-takes-to-the-streets/#comment-424101 Wasn't the neoconservative position basically that once Iraqis get political freedom, they'd insist on Western style freedom and become buddies with America? As far as what's happening in Lebanon, it seems pretty clear: Hezballah and it's followers want to topple the democratically elected government. Wasn’t the neoconservative position basically that once Iraqis get political freedom, they’d insist on Western style freedom and become buddies with America?

As far as what’s happening in Lebanon, it seems pretty clear: Hezballah and it’s followers want to topple the democratically elected government.

]]> By: Rick Moran http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/12/01/and-so-it-begins-hizbullah-takes-to-the-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-423796 Rick Moran Sat, 02 Dec 2006 20:54:44 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/12/01/and-so-it-begins-hizbullah-takes-to-the-streets/#comment-423796 Your ignorance of what is happening in Lebanon is matched only by your cluelessnes of who or what a neoconservative is and what they represent. Your ignorance of what is happening in Lebanon is matched only by your cluelessnes of who or what a neoconservative is and what they represent.

]]> By: jpe http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/12/01/and-so-it-begins-hizbullah-takes-to-the-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-423794 jpe Sat, 02 Dec 2006 20:52:13 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/12/01/and-so-it-begins-hizbullah-takes-to-the-streets/#comment-423794 <blockquote>jpe could be just doing a bit of tounge in cheek commentary.</blockquote> Yep. I'd say that these demonstrations are a potent counterexample to the neoconservative theory that democracy will, through some unexplained mechanism, produce a citizenry eager for the kinds of freedoms we have in the West.

jpe could be just doing a bit of tounge in cheek commentary.

Yep. I’d say that these demonstrations are a potent counterexample to the neoconservative theory that democracy will, through some unexplained mechanism, produce a citizenry eager for the kinds of freedoms we have in the West.

]]> By: Doug Ross @ Journal http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/12/01/and-so-it-begins-hizbullah-takes-to-the-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-423474 Doug Ross @ Journal Sat, 02 Dec 2006 16:23:41 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/12/01/and-so-it-begins-hizbullah-takes-to-the-streets/#comment-423474 <strong>The AP's newest source: Tommy al-Flanagan</strong> The recent Associated Press controversy -- in which events and witnesses described in various Baghdad reports appear to be fictitious -- has inspired other reporters to jump into the fray... The AP’s newest source: Tommy al-Flanagan

The recent Associated Press controversy — in which events and witnesses described in various Baghdad reports appear to be fictitious — has inspired other reporters to jump into the fray…

]]> By: Gregdn http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/12/01/and-so-it-begins-hizbullah-takes-to-the-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-423311 Gregdn Sat, 02 Dec 2006 14:12:25 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/12/01/and-so-it-begins-hizbullah-takes-to-the-streets/#comment-423311 Our support of Israel's bombing campaign this summer severely weakened the March 14th forces. Our support of Israel’s bombing campaign this summer severely weakened the March 14th forces.

]]> By: SlimGuy http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/12/01/and-so-it-begins-hizbullah-takes-to-the-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-422957 SlimGuy Sat, 02 Dec 2006 08:21:04 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/12/01/and-so-it-begins-hizbullah-takes-to-the-streets/#comment-422957 Well of course I may be commenting wrong here in that I don't know everyone here and jpe could be just doing a bit of tounge in cheek commentary. In that case never mind. Damn, too many variables. Well of course I may be commenting wrong here in that I don’t know everyone here and jpe could be just doing a bit of tounge in cheek commentary.

In that case never mind.

Damn, too many variables.

]]> By: SlimGuy http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/12/01/and-so-it-begins-hizbullah-takes-to-the-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-422951 SlimGuy Sat, 02 Dec 2006 08:16:08 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/12/01/and-so-it-begins-hizbullah-takes-to-the-streets/#comment-422951 jpe I have a question. Without going into the validity of positions. The crowd today in this article was in support of the non governmental faction in the country that was wishing to express removal of the elected government of a sovereign state with the expressed desire to repress it with the indirect rule of a third party state influence. Please expand on how you consider this freedom on the march, because somehow I don't get that grasp of the situation. Perhaps I am not as enlightened as you. jpe

I have a question.

Without going into the validity of positions. The crowd today in this article was in support of the non governmental faction in the country that was wishing to express removal of the elected government of a sovereign state with the expressed desire to repress it with the indirect rule of a third party state influence.

Please expand on how you consider this freedom on the march, because somehow I don’t get that grasp of the situation.

Perhaps I am not as enlightened as you.

]]> By: SlimGuy http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/12/01/and-so-it-begins-hizbullah-takes-to-the-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-422938 SlimGuy Sat, 02 Dec 2006 08:01:22 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/12/01/and-so-it-begins-hizbullah-takes-to-the-streets/#comment-422938 Crowd numbers pro and con to the Lebanon issue amount to a titillating you show me yours and I'll show you mine. What is important is the motivation for the crowd to show up to begin with. Is it a heartfelt issue oriented display or is it a manipulated go along pay for play gathering. Therein lies the strength or the weakness. Those with the real motivation will have the power to endure. Right now the question is what is that balance, or imbalance depending on your viewpoint. All else is just pretty window dressing. Crowd numbers pro and con to the Lebanon issue amount to a titillating you show me yours and I’ll show you mine.

What is important is the motivation for the crowd to show up to begin with.

Is it a heartfelt issue oriented display or is it a manipulated go along pay for play gathering.

Therein lies the strength or the weakness.

Those with the real motivation will have the power to endure.

Right now the question is what is that balance, or imbalance depending on your viewpoint.

All else is just pretty window dressing.

]]> By: Karen http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/12/01/and-so-it-begins-hizbullah-takes-to-the-streets/comment-page-1/#comment-422851 Karen Sat, 02 Dec 2006 06:14:50 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/12/01/and-so-it-begins-hizbullah-takes-to-the-streets/#comment-422851 A scary day for Lebanon and the rest of the world, too. I pray Hizballah will be defeated soon, but I'm not very optimistic. A scary day for Lebanon and the rest of the world, too. I pray Hizballah will be defeated soon, but I’m not very optimistic.

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