Oh, I 100% agree that the Republicans totally have botched that war - a war i am a veteran of I might add. I dont’ blame any Democrat for the administration’s policy failures.

I just don’t see how Republican failures make a pedestrian speech given by an empty suit a great policy initiative.

If you think Obama’s speech had no great analysis there, because of no original thought, I can only imagine how low your opinion is of the current bunch of fratboy knuckleheads who are running the joint. Mismanage a war so bad, like they never heard of the Powell Doctrine when he was standing right there, and then blame everybody else all these years while at the same time telling us all is well! What a bunch of jamoches. Twelve years of a Repulican congress, and it’s still the democrats fault. People are finally starting to wake up.

Perhaps if he would articulate the stakes in the war (something Bush has failed to do consistently) I would have a different opinion of it.

Did you actually read the date he gave that speech? Did you notice that he gave that speech well before the ISG released its report? Did you notice that the ISG made many of the same points as Obama, with no disagreements at all with anything that Obama said? Not that anyone of any significance was on the ISG - yank yank. Not that the ISG didn’t come up with its conclusions with a whole lot more resources than Obama has. Like W could make such a speech. Yeah, like that.

Did you actually read that speech slugger?

Here are the points:

Predetermined PHased withdrawl
Better Training of Iraqi Troops
No More No Bid Contracts
Talk to our Syria and Iran
Plan for the Aftermath next time
Don’t think you can instill democracy at Gun Point.

OHhhhhhh….he is really going against the grain of popular opinion there, isn’t?

never mind he is wrong on the witdrawl portion (we should either double down or pull out immediately IMHO), and doesn’t really say what we should say or give Syria and Iran in exchange for our cooperation.

Yes Virginia, he still maintains empty suit status.

Audio and Text of Senator Barack Obama’s Remarks “A Way Forward in Iraq” at the Chicago Council on Global Affairs Now Available Online, text and/or audio - http://www.thechicagocouncil.org/hottopics_details.php?hottopics_id=52 Yep, compare the breadth and depth of this speech to ANY made by the current president, or any of his official representatives.

Or read this editorial from that well-known hot bed of liberalism, the Chicago Tribune. Entitled “Obama Should Run,” the editorial begins “With the 2008 presidential field taking shape, the striking thing is how little excitement most of the possible candidates are likely to evoke.” http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-0612060034dec06,1,6299295.story?coll=chi-opinionfront-hed

“I think Barack Obama is the most interesting persona to appear on the political landscape in decades. He’s a walking, talking hope machine, and he may reshape American politics.”
–Mark McKinnon, top advisor to G.W. Bush in last two White House runs, as quoted in NY Times, Dec 4, 2006

Why not go for fresh blood, charisma, and smarts from the heartlands? Our strategy of electing seasoned political veterans from Texas and Arkansas has worked so well.

If this column is the best you can do (we don’t know who he is, he doesn’t have the experience, he is too young, etc.), you are going to be in for a long two years if Obama decides to run, and a long eight years after he becomes president.

hey, thanks for the credit on the Obamo Rorsarch test theory. Glad you got a post out of it. Not.

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