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	<title>Comments on: BOEHLERT MISSING THE POINT ABOUT AP SOURCING</title>
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		<title>By: Patterico&#8217;s Pontifications &#187; Media Matters Distorts Something (Yawn)</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/12/21/boehlert-missing-the-point-about-ap-sourcing/comment-page-1/#comment-470788</link>
		<dc:creator>Patterico&#8217;s Pontifications &#187; Media Matters Distorts Something (Yawn)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 22:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And the Rightwing Nuthouse post is from December 21, so it could not possibly be &#8212; and is not &#8212; a post wherein a warblogger fails to admit error. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Freddie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 21:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, you spend a lot of wasted words and space, harranguing the "left" for not assuming that the source was a fake one.  You got pretty uppity about it as well.

Now the Iraqi authorities have acknowledged that this man is who the AP and Boehlert says he is.

I hope you will admit that you blew it with as much fanfare as your attacks.  Or will you spin this and claim that the sources authenticity is now, suddenly, besides the point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, you spend a lot of wasted words and space, harranguing the &#8220;left&#8221; for not assuming that the source was a fake one.  You got pretty uppity about it as well.</p>
<p>Now the Iraqi authorities have acknowledged that this man is who the AP and Boehlert says he is.</p>
<p>I hope you will admit that you blew it with as much fanfare as your attacks.  Or will you spin this and claim that the sources authenticity is now, suddenly, besides the point?</p>
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		<title>By: Right Wing Nut House &#187; TRIUMPH OF THE WILLFUL</title>
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		<dc:creator>Right Wing Nut House &#187; TRIUMPH OF THE WILLFUL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 16:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] My two posts on the AP are here and here. I was wrong about Michelle Malkin debunking the possible problem with transliterating Arab names into English for as Allah posited at the time and points out here, that appears to have been the reason for the inability of the Iraqi Information Ministry and CENTCOM to track Hussein down. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] My two posts on the AP are here and here. I was wrong about Michelle Malkin debunking the possible problem with transliterating Arab names into English for as Allah posited at the time and points out here, that appears to have been the reason for the inability of the Iraqi Information Ministry and CENTCOM to track Hussein down. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: grayson</title>
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		<dc:creator>grayson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 09:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems to me that counter-attacking the AP in order to reverse the slide in public opinion - while probably not what bloggers are after - is an entirely legitimate action.

To use a hyperbolic analogy, if the Soviets weren't able to control the information among the Soviet States and Client States, it may have died a long time ago.

If "warbloggers" believe that the war is important, and they honestly believe that media reporting has been a cause of the decline in the support of the endeavor, I see no reason why shining a light on the media's misbehavior is somehow illegitimate.

For members of the media to say, "that's our tactic, and you can't use it" is, to my mind, an indication that it absolutely should be used. 

Moreover, I TRULY disagree with the formulation that America is failing in Iraq. 

The bottom line is that Iraq is failing in Iraq.

These people were given a shot at a civilization worth having, where differences are settled with other men as equals and without violence. George W. Bush and the American Military gave that opportunity to 23 million strangers, and that is something enormous in the history of the world.

Shouldn't that have been enough? Why not? No, really. Why not?

Instead of working to created a decent, civil society, buckets of Iraqis instead chose to try to become the next Saddam Hussein; they chose to slaughter and dominate their neighbors.

If the Iraqis got their stuff together, the question of whether America is "failing" is moot. 

You can lead a camel to water... but if the camel is too stubborn and stupid to drink it, can you really say the rider is to blame? Seems to me, you have a stubborn and stupid camel, regardless of what the rider does.

For those who think that America is the worst thing for believing it could bring democracy to that world, consider why that sounds so foolish, and you'll realize that the problem is not with America, but with that world.

We brought democracy to Japan, preserved it enough to develop in S. Korea, restored it in Germany, inspired it all over Eastern Europe and the former Soviet States.

Why not the middle east?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me that counter-attacking the AP in order to reverse the slide in public opinion - while probably not what bloggers are after - is an entirely legitimate action.</p>
<p>To use a hyperbolic analogy, if the Soviets weren&#8217;t able to control the information among the Soviet States and Client States, it may have died a long time ago.</p>
<p>If &#8220;warbloggers&#8221; believe that the war is important, and they honestly believe that media reporting has been a cause of the decline in the support of the endeavor, I see no reason why shining a light on the media&#8217;s misbehavior is somehow illegitimate.</p>
<p>For members of the media to say, &#8220;that&#8217;s our tactic, and you can&#8217;t use it&#8221; is, to my mind, an indication that it absolutely should be used. </p>
<p>Moreover, I TRULY disagree with the formulation that America is failing in Iraq. </p>
<p>The bottom line is that Iraq is failing in Iraq.</p>
<p>These people were given a shot at a civilization worth having, where differences are settled with other men as equals and without violence. George W. Bush and the American Military gave that opportunity to 23 million strangers, and that is something enormous in the history of the world.</p>
<p>Shouldn&#8217;t that have been enough? Why not? No, really. Why not?</p>
<p>Instead of working to created a decent, civil society, buckets of Iraqis instead chose to try to become the next Saddam Hussein; they chose to slaughter and dominate their neighbors.</p>
<p>If the Iraqis got their stuff together, the question of whether America is &#8220;failing&#8221; is moot. </p>
<p>You can lead a camel to water&#8230; but if the camel is too stubborn and stupid to drink it, can you really say the rider is to blame? Seems to me, you have a stubborn and stupid camel, regardless of what the rider does.</p>
<p>For those who think that America is the worst thing for believing it could bring democracy to that world, consider why that sounds so foolish, and you&#8217;ll realize that the problem is not with America, but with that world.</p>
<p>We brought democracy to Japan, preserved it enough to develop in S. Korea, restored it in Germany, inspired it all over Eastern Europe and the former Soviet States.</p>
<p>Why not the middle east?</p>
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		<title>By: The Possum Bistro</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Possum Bistro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 16:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Playing the Fool&lt;/strong&gt;

They fooled everybody - almost.

How often do you question what you read? My history tutor certainly impressed on me that crucial skill: always question the source, whether it is a first-hand or second-hand account, what ideological, cultural or hi...</description>
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<p>They fooled everybody - almost.</p>
<p>How often do you question what you read? My history tutor certainly impressed on me that crucial skill: always question the source, whether it is a first-hand or second-hand account, what ideological, cultural or hi&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Classical Values</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/12/21/boehlert-missing-the-point-about-ap-sourcing/comment-page-1/#comment-451486</link>
		<dc:creator>Classical Values</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;my foam flecked frenzy over fictional facts&lt;/strong&gt;

Is the best defense always a good offense? Eric Boehlert (a Salon editor who now writes for Media Matters) is getting a lot of attention in the blogosphere right now because of the ferocity of his defense of the MSM's...</description>
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<p>Is the best defense always a good offense? Eric Boehlert (a Salon editor who now writes for Media Matters) is getting a lot of attention in the blogosphere right now because of the ferocity of his defense of the MSM&#8217;s&#8230;</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 10:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Anchoress &#187; Sir, that&#8217;s not quite what I said</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Anchoress &#187; Sir, that&#8217;s not quite what I said</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Related: That famous &#8220;warblogger&#8221; Instapundit rounds things up with a raised eyebrow and remembers some stuff the press would probably prefer he forget. Has Jamil Hussein been found? Did he or did he not talk to the AP? Rick Moran concedes Iraq is dangerous/deadly and wonders if that means the news doesn&#8217;t have to be accurate. Malkin stays on it and answers critics Allahpundit seems annoyed by Boehlert&#8217;s characterization of bloggers Eason Jordan draws no conclusions, yet Seedubya says he&#8217;s been &#8216;Dowdified&#8217; by Boehlert Captains Quarters and Jules Crittenden supply balance. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Related: That famous &#8220;warblogger&#8221; Instapundit rounds things up with a raised eyebrow and remembers some stuff the press would probably prefer he forget. Has Jamil Hussein been found? Did he or did he not talk to the AP? Rick Moran concedes Iraq is dangerous/deadly and wonders if that means the news doesn&#8217;t have to be accurate. Malkin stays on it and answers critics Allahpundit seems annoyed by Boehlert&#8217;s characterization of bloggers Eason Jordan draws no conclusions, yet Seedubya says he&#8217;s been &#8216;Dowdified&#8217; by Boehlert Captains Quarters and Jules Crittenden supply balance. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Thunder Run</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Thunder Run</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 15:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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A short recon of whatâ€™s out there that might draw your attention.</description>
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		<dc:creator>Wingo</dc:creator>
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