Now that the rule is established, can we finally find all the MIA-POW’s from Vietnam? Really its just about doing your footwork and checking the truthiness of your sources.
Maybe CENTCOM has some Vietnam MIA stuff in their Pat Tillman/Jessica Lynch file, underneath the WMD’s.

Oh, so now you’re switching to strawmen, Jonathan?

I said nothing of the sort, NOR did I insinuate anything of the sort. The righties shouldn’t be able to abuse the left either, and saying “oh I’m using it as an offense” is childish, it’s still an illogical shield. You just prove my point yet again - I explained that it was tu quoque and you just said “well, they did it, too”. That is logically fallacious. I guess people aren’t for the moral (or logical) high ground anymore, it’s just who can snipe better.

And just for the sake of full disclosure, I dislike both left and right, but I dislike the left more (because leftist political ideas are more illogical).

“What we really expect out of the Democrats is for them to treat us as they would like to have been treated.”
-Incoming House Minority Leader John Boehner of Ohio

Saying “well, the righties were snarky so we can be, too” isn’t a defense – it’s an illogical shield. Same goes the other way – their actions have to be judge irregardless of what the “other side” did. The tu quoque logical fallacy is saying “so what? They did the same thing (or worse)!” Not only is it childish, but you lose the argument by losing it.

I’m not using it as a defense, I’m using it as an offense.

You apparently want the left to play nice while the right continues to abuse us. Sorry, the left is not going to play that game any more. You wish for us to be like an abused spouse, who when the abuser promises never to do it again, believes and returns for yet more abuse.

“If rape is inevitable, relax and enjoy it.” -Bobby Knight to Connie Chung, 1988

This is one rape victim that doesn’t intend to “relax and enjoy it” any more. Instead I intend to kick the rapist right in the balls just as hard as I can and continue doing so for as long as I have strength. Oh, I’ll do so in a gentlemanly manner, but remember, a true gentleman is also a cast iron son of a bitch when offended.

“War is the continuation of politics by other means.”
- Karl von Clausewitz

- “No one starts a war–or rather, no one in his senses ought to do so–without first being clear in his mind what he intends to achieve by that war and how he intends to conduct it.”
-Karl von Clausewitz

Appraise war in terms of the fundamental factors. The first of these factors is moral influence.
Sun-Tzu

The right has been engaging in war for quite some time now, the left remembers that every dog has his day.

Saying “well, the righties were snarky so we can be, too” isn’t a defense - it’s an illogical shield. Same goes the other way - their actions have to be judge irregardless of what the “other side” did. The tu quoque logical fallacy is saying “so what? They did the same thing (or worse)!” Not only is it childish, but you lose the argument by losing it.

But as I’ve stated before it seems logic and politics don’t jive well. If they did we’d mostly be some sort of libertarian.

BAGHDAD, Iraq - The body of an Associated Press employee was found shot in the back of the head Friday, six days after he was last seen by his family leaving for work. Ahmed Hadi Naji, 28, was the fourth AP staffer to die violently in the Iraq war and the second AP employee killed in less than a month. He had been a messenger and occasional cameraman for the AP for 2 1/2 years.

I think this makes it clear that AP employees in Iraq face considerable risks.

Sorry.

The bodies in Bagdhad aren’t exactly new or controversial, they are factual and obvious. The standard marks of the sectarian killings are drilled knees and burns. Only someone who was paying very little attention could miss them, surely?

Or perhaps someone whose ideology requires that they minimize the violence in Iraq for political purposes.

Good policy is difficult to make when information is systematically collected in a way that minimizes its discrepancy with policy goals.
-From the Iraq Study Group Report