http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=19277

1) A serious road accident killed 3 people on the roads in my county yesterday (it didn’t, it is an illustrative point). I offer this as information, draw conclusions on road safety as you will.

2) As a result of the thousands of child murders that occur each day in my county (they don’t, just another illustrative point). I, as an agent of the government, propose that we should imprison all males between the ages of 20 and 40 who have had any suspicions raised against them to ensure the safety of our children.

The two statements make truth claims, but one is obviously a matter for more serious consideration than the other.

Philosophically, we should be concerned about truth, of course, but practicaly some truth claims are more important than others.

“Every day the same violence in Iraq happens in New York, Los Angeles, but in sheer ignorance those commentors turn away.”

Really? I don’t remember stories about car bombings, mass killings, abductions of entire faculty staffs and almost constant assasination attempts against government officials in New York.

I didn’t know it was such a violent place. Glad I don’t live there.

“Perhaps if unremitting negativity with NO real support of the republican admnistration or the military were alleviated by something that were not so one sided right from the beginning we would have a different result now.”

Oh, don’t be ridiculous. The Bush admin got to run this war the way they wanted from the start. I doubt that even a competent group could have successfully run it and eneded up with anything very different from where it is now, but that lot? Honestly? You think the reason that they failed is the media?

Come on…

That isn’t how one discusses what is true or false. Something is true or false, it doesn’t matter how serious it is.

are we violently agreeing?

Perhaps “truth” is a far more complex thing than those on the left believe. Every day the same violence in Iraq happens in New York, Los Angeles, but in sheer ignorance those commentors turn away.

Perhaps if unremitting negativity with NO real support of the republican admnistration or the military were alleviated by something that were not so one sided right from the beginning we would have a different result now.

The real fact is that everyone continues to dance around the subject that such one sided reporting has given comfort and aid to those that hate this country. THAT is a truth that the left side of the aisle will not admit in their need to slime their own country through another “Vietnam”. Fact is you all were NOT right then to do what you did and you are not right now.

I actually think that you are a rather different case. You do seem perfectly happy to question the right as well as the left. In your case it is a strawman. In the case of Malkin et al, it is not.

“I also find it humorous that the same people who questioned pre-war intel because of no confirmation from outside sources (though technically the yellowcake nonsense was cooked up by the Italians) would then attack the right blogosphere for questioning the AP when there was no proof of specific incidents except for Jamil, who they couldn’t prove existed.”

Hmm.

In the one case they were presenting a case for blowing up a country and killing thousands of people. They deliberately and mandaciously created intelligence out of thin air and repressed the evidence that they didn’t like.

In the other you havea news agency without any proposals or requirement to persuade anyone to do anything (as far as I can tell, if AP is suggesting a course of action, please enlighten me).

One is a *tad* more serious than the other, don’t you think?

I also find it humorous that the same people who questioned pre-war intel because of no confirmation from outside sources (though technically the yellowcake nonsense was cooked up by the Italians) would then attack the right blogosphere for questioning the AP when there was no proof of specific incidents except for Jamil, who they couldn’t prove existed.

I’m Obsessing over more than 60 stories where Hussein was a source for information not to mention dozens of other stories with hugely conflicting eyewitness accounts and no effort to reconcile them.

This is a free press issue - not a war/peace issue. As I’ve said countless times, even if every story Hussein was a source on proves false, it doesn’t change the reality of what’s happening in Iraq. How many times do I have to say that before people stop throwing it up in my face as a strawman?

Need more evidence of the eroding value of the old-line newspaper business? Powerline and American Thinker report that the money-losing sale of the Tribune Company was even worse than previously thought…