US AC-130 gunships attacked some fleeing al-Qaeda members along the Somalia-Kenya border wreaking havoc, sowing confusion, and evidently killing several terrorists – including a possible al-Qaeda financier who may have assisted the bombers who destroyed our African embassies in 1998:
A U.S. Air Force AC-130 gunship attacked suspected al-Qaeda members in southern Somalia on Sunday, and U.S. sources said the operation may have hit a senior terrorist figure.The strike took place near the Kenyan border, according to a senior officer at the Pentagon. Other sources said it was launched at night from the U.S. military facility in neighboring Djibouti. It was based on joint military-CIA intelligence and on information provided by Ethiopian and Kenyan military forces operating in the border area.
Sources said last night that initial reports indicated the attack had been successful, although information was still scanty.
“You had some figures on the move in a relatively unpopulated part of the country,” said one source confirming the attack, who, like several others, would discuss the operation only on the condition of anonymity. “It was a confluence of information and circumstances,” he said. The attack was first reported by CBS News.
This is more like it. First, we had cooperative intelligence sharing from both Ethiopia and Kenya – the two major players in that part of the world and both of whom want nothing to do with al-Qaeda and radical Islam. Secondly, the operation appeared to be well planned and expertly carried out. Third, the bonus to the operation may be the timely deaths of two higher ups in al-Qaeda who have been responsible for aiding the perpetrators of attacks on American interests:
One target of the strike, sources said, was Abu Talha al-Sudani, a Sudanese who is married to a Somali woman and has lived in Somalia since 1993—the year of the attack against U.S. troops that was chronicled in the book and movie “Black Hawk Down.” In a 2001 U.S. court case against Osama bin Laden, Sudani was described by a leading witness as an explosives expert who was close to the al-Qaeda leader.More recently, Sudani was identified by U.S. intelligence as a close associate of Gouled Hassan Dourad, head of a Mogadishu-based network that operated in support of al-Qaeda in Somalia. Dourad is one of 14 “high-value” prisoners transferred last September from CIA “black sites” to the U.S. military base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
The Office of the Director of National Intelligence then disclosed that Dourad “worked for the East African al-Qaeda cell led by . . . al-Sudani” and carried out at least one mission for him, related to a plan to bomb the U.S. military base in Djibouti.
And that’s not all. US intelligence has fingered Sudani as the financier for the terrorist attack on our embassies in 1998. And the terrorist who was the beneficiary of that financing may have been killed in the raid as well:
Others have identified Sudani as the financier for Fazul Abdullah Mohammed and Saleh Ali Saleh Nabhan, believed responsible for the 1998 bombing of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. All are among the senior al-Qaeda operatives the Bush administration has charged were sheltered by Somalian Islamic fundamentalists controlling Mogadishu, the country’s capital. They are believed to have fled late last month when Ethiopian troops drove the fundamentalists out of the capital and toward the Kenyan border.[In an interview early Tuesday, Abdirizak Hassan, chief of staff for Prime Minister Ali Mohamed Gedi, confirmed the strike. Hassan said he heard from American officials that Fazul Abdullah Mohammed had been killed, although U.S. officials said he had not been in their immediate sights. “Among the targets was Fazul,” he said, “and we understand that Fazul is no more.”
Hassan also said Somali officials authorized the strike. “We gave permission for actions that are more than airstrikes,” Hassan said. “Whatever it means to rout these people out, we have given them permission.”]
So to sum up; a multi national effort to destroy fleeing al-Qaeda terrorists, carried out with precision and our military’s usual deadly efficiency, with the permission of the UN approved and backed Somali government, may have sent two major al-Qaeda figures along with several others to hell.
One would think that such an operation could be supported by all Americans who wish to fight terrorism. In fact, I would say that this is a no brainer – even for the left.
These men are believed responsible for acts of terrorism, and the people who were attacked were believed to be the men in question. Evidently that forms a sound basis for administering (or, at least, attempting to administer) the death penalty, at least by U.S. standards.
While this person represents the loopy left, even “mainstream” liberals are clucking their tongues and wagging their fingers in disapproval:
See, here’s the thing. The US, again, refused to talk directly to the ICU. The ICU, like Hezbollah, wanted, needed, recognition (even more than Hezbollah). A deal could have been made. But it wasn’t. Instead what the US has done is back a foreign invasion in support of a puppet government with no popular support…If the ICU had taken over Somalia they could have been dealt with as you deal with nations – pressure, sanctions, maybe even bombing runs – plus the carrot of aid and trade relations. As a guerilla movement there is nothing the US can do to them that it has not already done.
The ICU will win in the long run. A lot of people will die in the meantime. Al-Qa’eda will have another haven, and the US will be reviled for putting a bunch of bloodthirsty raping monsters back into power.
All in a day’s work in the Bush administration.
I don’t know whether to fisk this idiocy or simply sit back and laugh at the breathtaking naivete and appalling ignorance.
First of all, we spent the last 6 months urging the Transitional Government to talk with more moderate elements in the Islamic Courts Union:
Frazer, the top U.S. diplomat for Africa, had said late Sunday in Nairobi that Yusuf’s government, which was formed by an international conference in 2004 and has never controlled Mogadishu, needed to bring moderate Islamists into the regime.“I support reaching out to the … Islamic Courts,” Frazer said. “We see a role in the future of Somalia for all who renounce violence and extremism.”
The message signaled a more conciliatory U.S. stance on the Islamic Courts Movement, which had seized Mogadishu in June from U.S.-backed warlords. Initially U.S. officials based in Kenya had some contact with moderates within the movement, including Sheik Sherif Ahmed, a geography teacher who emerged as their leader.
But Ahmed soon was edged out by hard-liners, led by suspected al-Qaida operative Hassan Dahir Aweys, who laid claims to territory in neighboring countries and called for jihad against Ethiopia. Frazer made a series of statements starting in November claiming that al-Qaida terrorists had overrun the courts movement.
U.S. officials think that the militants are sheltering three terrorists who masterminded the 1998 attacks on U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. The Bush administration is widely thought to have given neighboring, Christian-led Ethiopia the green light to expel the Islamists.
Funny how the Agonist writer failed to mention that tiny detail of a declaration of jihad against largely Christian Ethiopia by the radicals in ICU long before the invasion. But then, that just doesn’t fit the narrative of the US as bloodthirsty warmongers so it could be safely jettisoned in favor of a comparison of the those gentle souls in the ICU with democratic reformers from Hizbullah.
The stupidity of such a comparison boggles the mind. Hizbullah was enormously unpopular in Lebanon even before they declared their intention to overthrow the legitimately elected government of Prime Minister Siniora. The overwhelming majority of Lebanese place the blame for starting the destructive war against Israel right where it belongs; in Hassan Nasrallah’s lap. To say that Hizbullah has any “popular support” at all beyond the Shia minority (and a sizable segment of secular Shias oppose them as well) is laughable and demonstrates a towering ignorance of what Hizbullah is doing in Lebanon – mainly the bidding of their masters in Syria and Tehran.
And the “popular support” for the ICU in Somalia?
Jubilant Somalis cheered as troops of the U.N.-backed interim government rolled into Mogadishu unopposed Thursday, putting an end to six months of domination of the capital by a radical Islamic movement.Ethiopian soldiers stopped on the outskirts of town, after providing much of the military might in the offensive that shattered what had seemed an unbeatable Islamic militia. Islamic fighters fled south vowing to continue the battle.
“We are in Mogadishu,” Prime Minister Mohamed Ali Gedi declared after meeting with local clan leaders to discuss the peaceful hand-over of the city.
The ICU had been taken over by radical foreign Islamists in the previous months. Whatever “law and order” they brought to the country came at the expense of the security of their neighbors in Ethiopia and Kenya as the direct threat of jihad against Ethiopia proves conclusively. Not only that, it became apparent that the ICU was setting up a safe haven for terrorists who could strike US and western interests (and friends) in the region:
“We had seen intelligence evidence these three al Qaeda operatives were very much influencing the leadership of the council of the ICU —for example providing logistics, fuel and arms to the militias,” said Jendayi Frazer, the U.S. State Department’s Assistant Secretary for African Affairs.U.S. officials in East Africa said earlier this week that al Qaeda operatives were developing the ability to attack U.S. targets just as they did when the embassy bombings killed hundreds.
Intelligence shows al Qaeda stepped up its operations in Somalia in June after an Islamic militia took power.
Their camps taught radical Islam to young men, weapons flowed in from eastern European arms dealers and money arrived from the Middle East, U.S. officials said.
“What we were really concerned about was there seemed to be much more recruiting, much more training going on. They were positioning themselves to expand their area of influence beyond Somali borders,” said Rear Adm. Richard Hunt of Task Force Horn of Africa.
Before I condemn the entire left for the stupidity exhibited above, let’s wait and see if any liberals cheer this victory against al-Qaeda. I am hoping that there is some sanity both in Congress and among the netroots who recognize that as flawed as the Transitional Government might be, they are a damn sight better than an Islamist-backed, radical fundamentalist outfit like the ICU running things.
And if we can convince the legitimate government to talk with more moderate elements in the ICU and perhaps bring them into the government in some sort of power sharing arrangement, even the left might celebrate.
Analysts who had been critical of U.S. policy in Somalia said the Bush administration might be focusing on achieving political stability there after years of being preoccupied with preventing al-Qaida cells from taking root.“If the U.S. is indeed doing more than making a few public statements in support of dialogue with moderates, then it does represent a shift in the public face of its policy,” said John Prendergast, senior adviser to the International Crisis Group, a research center on global conflict.
The Islamists’ ouster left a power vacuum in Mogadishu, where the transitional government has little support. The city’s powerful Hawiye clan accuses Yusuf, who’s of a rival clan, of being a puppet of Ethiopia.
“If southern Somalia is to stabilize, it is essential that the transitional government hold substantial power-sharing talks with the Hawiye clan elders and Islamic Courts officials,” Prendergast said.
Trying to sweeten the deal, the U.S. has pledged $40 million in new aid to Somalia, including $14 million to support a proposed African peacekeeping mission. Frazer said the money wasn’t conditional on the transitional government negotiating with the Islamists.
We appear to be undertaking a substantial, determined effort to make the right moves in Somalia now – both militarily and diplomatically. As to the latter, patience may be a virtue that I would urge on my lefty friends. Somalia has resisted efforts to coalesce into a nation for the past 15 years and it will take time for our policies to bear fruit; that is, if we can sustain them.
But if the above excerpts from lefty blogs is the kind of mindless, knee jerk reaction to our efforts and the efforts of a sizable portion of Africa to defeat the ICU and establish a viable government in Somalia, then we can do well to ask our lefty friends a very pointed and pertinent question:
Just what will it take for you to support military action to kill our enemies?
UPDATE
The Ethiopians did us a big favor by dislodging the Islamists from Mogadishu. Once on the run, the US could bring all of its technological assets on line to track them, and the Air Force waited long enough for all of them to run into the trap. The Navy positioned the USS Eisenhower in the waters nearby Somalia just in case it finds even more targets to strike.
That hasn’t stopped the Ethiopians, either. Their forces have surrounded an al-Qaeda base and may have overrun it by the time you read this post. Between the three forces, including those loyal to the Somalian transitional government, AQ in Africa is about to take a huge blow, perhaps even a fatal defeat.
It may have taken us a long time, but we do not forget. Let’s hope that our attack took out these high-value targets and plenty of their followers to boot.
8:15 am
three important words: “Rules of Engagement”
8:57 am
Rick,
Obviously I’m not the intended recipient of this question, but leftists will begin supporting these types of actions when they begin hating enemies of the United States more than they hate their American political opponents.
9:37 am
time will tell if the new government can stand. Let’s hope so.
10:28 am
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11:22 am
US Strikes Al Qaeda in Somalia: Update
Last night I linked to a CBS News article that gave us great news about the United States, in conjunction with Ethiopian troops, going after al Qaeda in East Africa, specifically the masterminds behind the 1998 embassy bombings. They may…
2:39 pm
I have commented here several times in opposition to the war in Iraq. The Somali raid appears to have been well planned and well executed. More importantly, it was directed against our enemy, al Qaeda, and should be supported by all. My hope is President Bush will narrow the focus in Iraq to deal with our enemies and not continue wandering unplanned into Iraq’s civil disturbance (war?) between the Shia and the Sunni. Iraq is partitioning itself into three areas (Sunni, Shia and Kurd) through migration and resettlement. The United States needs to forget about a unified Iraq and work to make the natural partitioning as pro-Western and democratic as is possible.
This moderate wants to kill American enemies, al Qaeda (and related extremist groups). What we can no longer afford to do is to referee Iraq’s warring factions. I am counting on our President to use all of the advice he has been given to lay out a workable approach to Iraq and international terrorism. The Somali raids show a right way to attack real enemies.
2:47 pm
Epicenter:
Your comment was deleted for being so far off topic that it ended up in the next county.
Ed:
I get mad at you sometimes but you’re always honest and have a point to make. And I agree that trying to staunch the flow of blood between Sunnis and Shias is a waste of time. Even going after the insurgents should be done in tandem with political moves from the Iraqi government.
Kill the al-Qaeda terrorists in Iraq – that’s the ticket. And while there appears to be a limited amount of cooperation between them and the insurgents, it may be easier to ferret them out – especially in places like Anbar where we have the local tribes on our side in fighting against al-Qaeda.
3:05 pm
You deleted my comment because you did not wnat to get sidetracked by someone questioning the logic of your very premise.
I can see not wanting to get sidetracked.
But it was on topic.
You guys sure do delete alot of comments
why is it that lefty blogs allow for dissent and you guys press for conformity?
I am a libertarian
but the left is more likely to actually debate
4:36 pm
Key front in war on terror, Somalia
The United States of America is capable of doing more than one thing at a time. We can fight this war on terror in the Middle East, and any other place where the terrorists might decide to hide or cause
5:14 pm
Well Right Truth.
We’re not winning the war in Iraq.
we’re not winning the the war in Afhganistan
So yeah, let’s start shooting in another country. Let’s forget that like Iraqis. Somalis don’t want invaders in their country either. Then, when Somali nationals they start shooting back, we can just call them “terrorists”.
By the way, there is nothing stopping them from coming over here. not even us being “over there”.
5:57 pm
I am not sure who you were quoting that clucked about the intervention in Somalia, however, it was carried out in seemingly well run efficiency. I cannot find (not that I was looking for) any fault in the actions carried out. If the ICU threatened Ethiopia, they were begging for war. And if there were al Qaeda operatives starting trouble between Kenya and Ethiopia, they were begging to get taken out. I am not as sure as you are that people were cheering the coming of the Ethiopian army because they felt they at least had some security which they do not now. However, the ICU did have this war won and then they shot their mouth off. They deserved to get overrun after that. What was Ethiopia supposed to do? Double the guard at their border, twiddle their thumbs and wait while the ICU tightened its grip and grew stronger? Not hardly.
8:59 pm
Terrorist Hunting in Somalia
It looks like the US airstrikes against a group of al Qaeda terrorists may have yielded good results for everyone. If it pans out, then watch for these names to appear in the news as confirmed as killed or captured
9:03 pm
but the left is more likely to actually debate
Really? The last time I engaged one of them in debate, in ended pretty much the way I expected. I was derided as a racist, homophobe, etc. Not by virtue of my statements, mind you, but simply because we didn’t agree.
If that’s the extent to which leftists “debate” issues, clearly there’s no meaningful exchange taking place.
6:30 am
Democratic Party Site’s Search Engine is Broken!
Jules Crittenden performs an admirable service as he’s found, organized, and linked to all of the Democratic position papers on Iraq and the War on Terror. They’re just a… click… away…
12:24 pm
Al Qaeda suspects survive U.S. strike on Somalia
11 Jan 2007 13:31:01 GMT
Source: Reuters
“We are still in pursuit. We and the Ethiopians and everyone else wants to interdict terrorists,” said the official, who declined to be named.
What a surprise.
1:17 pm
What in God’s name is your problem? Are you retarded?
You flit from post to post leaving inane, stupid comments that any 6 year old could leave – not to mention the fact that your stupidity is really getting on my nerves.
Why not respond to the post directly. Why always the “gotchya?” Why can’t you be civil? Why are you such a brainless twit?
You have been warned. You are not contributing one iota to discussion on this blog.
Change or be banned.
3:18 pm
Why is pointing out that the three top AlQueda operatives that were supposedly targeted in fact escaped inane?
All I was doing was quoting a “senior US official” and I provided a link to the story in question. How is pointing out facts a “gotcha”?
Show me where I have been uncivil or called anyone any names.
Do you consider what you wrote in that quote civil?
Do you have other commenters that comment on more than one thread?