Comments on: “UNDOCUMENTED” AND OUT OF LUCK http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/01/25/undocumented-and-out-of-luck/ Politics served up with a smile... And a stilletto. Mon, 20 Apr 2026 08:38:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: J'hn1 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/01/25/undocumented-and-out-of-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-494424 J'hn1 Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:44:06 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/01/25/undocumented-and-out-of-luck/#comment-494424 One point that everyone seems to miss is that the corporation would be assuming all tax liability. Since she has no taxpayer ID # (Social Security or otherwise) the corporation cannot transfer tax liability to any legal entity. Instead of writing off the entire (out-of pocket) cost as promotional, they would be "on the hook" for 1) corporate taxes (just as if they had given the money to the stockholders) 2) personal taxes owed (unknown due to no tax ID ) 2a) personal tax amount at maximum rate possible 2b) fines and penalties for unpaid personal taxes 3) fines and penalties for not keeping books to IRS standards (or even GAAP) 4) fines and penalties for transferring assets through untraceable paths to unknown ends. (same as laws used against bookies' runners and private collections believed as destined to fund terror activities) Now sometimes the government looks the other way. Like when Mass. bars and Irish taverns have a thug inside the door collecting "for the boys" and everyone knows it is destined to buy guns and explosives for the IRA. And sometimes the government changes their minds like the fairly recent crackdowns on collecting for Hezbollah, Hamas and Fatah. Some of the rules are recipient blind (because it might be impossible to prove the real intended reviever). Following those recipient blind rules makes withholding this prize until US tax law can be met a necessity. One point that everyone seems to miss is that the corporation would be assuming all tax liability.
Since she has no taxpayer ID # (Social Security or otherwise) the corporation cannot transfer tax liability to any legal entity.
Instead of writing off the entire (out-of pocket) cost as promotional, they would be “on the hook” for
1) corporate taxes (just as if they had given the money to the stockholders)
2) personal taxes owed (unknown due to no tax ID )
2a) personal tax amount at maximum rate possible
2b) fines and penalties for unpaid personal taxes
3) fines and penalties for not keeping books to IRS standards (or even GAAP)
4) fines and penalties for transferring assets through untraceable paths to unknown ends. (same as laws used against bookies’ runners and private collections believed as destined to fund terror activities)
Now sometimes the government looks the other way. Like when Mass. bars and Irish taverns have a thug inside the door collecting “for the boys” and everyone knows it is destined to buy guns and explosives for the IRA.
And sometimes the government changes their minds like the fairly recent crackdowns on collecting for Hezbollah, Hamas and Fatah.
Some of the rules are recipient blind (because it might be impossible to prove the real intended reviever).
Following those recipient blind rules makes withholding this prize until US tax law can be met a necessity.

]]> By: I http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/01/25/undocumented-and-out-of-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-493434 I Sun, 28 Jan 2007 23:56:28 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/01/25/undocumented-and-out-of-luck/#comment-493434 Came here at age 7... If you read the article, they claim she came here at age 7. I don't know why you did not mention that in your post but I think it makes a huge difference. Unless you believed she crossed the border at 7 on her own, I think she should be given some leaway because she cannot be blamed for what her parents did. And before you say that she should have packed her bags and left back to Mexico when she turned 18, how realistic is it to imagine someone who has been living here from 7 to 18 suddenly pack up and go into another country. Obviously, the article doesn't have all the details that would be needed to judge her character but with those details missing, a little caution would be in order before judgement is passed! Came here at age 7…

If you read the article, they claim she came here at age 7. I don’t know why you did not mention that in your post but I think it makes a huge difference. Unless you believed she crossed the border at 7 on her own, I think she should be given some leaway because she cannot be blamed for what her parents did.

And before you say that she should have packed her bags and left back to Mexico when she turned 18, how realistic is it to imagine someone who has been living here from 7 to 18 suddenly pack up and go into another country.

Obviously, the article doesn’t have all the details that would be needed to judge her character but with those details missing, a little caution would be in order before judgement is passed!

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]]> By: Paul http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/01/25/undocumented-and-out-of-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-490814 Paul Fri, 26 Jan 2007 22:41:18 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/01/25/undocumented-and-out-of-luck/#comment-490814 I was under the impression that standard legal boilerplate for such contests includes the statement "open to legal US residents 18 years of age and older". It seems highly unlikely that the station would hold a contest without laying out the basic ground rules regarding contest entry, disqualification, use of likenesses for publicity, etc. In that case, I don't understand what the legal basis for this lawsuit is. I was under the impression that standard legal boilerplate for such contests includes the statement “open to legal US residents 18 years of age and older”. It seems highly unlikely that the station would hold a contest without laying out the basic ground rules regarding contest entry, disqualification, use of likenesses for publicity, etc. In that case, I don’t understand what the legal basis for this lawsuit is.

]]> By: Jess http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/01/25/undocumented-and-out-of-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-490141 Jess Fri, 26 Jan 2007 06:38:43 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/01/25/undocumented-and-out-of-luck/#comment-490141 Since when did illegal aliens gain rights in America? I am shocked that they would be allowed to file a lawsuit! Since when did illegal aliens gain rights in America? I am shocked that they would be allowed to file a lawsuit!

]]> By: Michelle Malkin http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/01/25/undocumented-and-out-of-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-489981 Michelle Malkin Fri, 26 Jan 2007 04:07:57 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/01/25/undocumented-and-out-of-luck/#comment-489981 <strong>Illegal alien demands free car</strong> What the open-borders entitlement culture has wrought (via Chicago Sun-Times): Winning a Chevrolet Corvette is the stuff of dreams. In Maribel Nava Alvarez's case, it has been a nightmare. The former Little Village resident said officials with local r... Illegal alien demands free car

What the open-borders entitlement culture has wrought (via Chicago Sun-Times): Winning a Chevrolet Corvette is the stuff of dreams. In Maribel Nava Alvarez’s case, it has been a nightmare. The former Little Village resident said officials with local r…

]]> By: ed http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/01/25/undocumented-and-out-of-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-489685 ed Thu, 25 Jan 2007 19:40:23 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/01/25/undocumented-and-out-of-luck/#comment-489685 According to the article, attorney James Cueva DIDN'T do his duty as a citizen and turn in an illegal alien, but rather THREATENED to do so IF the lawsuit was filed. I don't see much a hero in Mr. Cueva or the SBS. If he were not an attorney, his actions would look a lot like blackmail. He should have immediately turned over the information regarding the illegal to the INS, not use it as a legal manuever. That said, I wish the punishment for filing frivolous lawsuits included a death penalty option for those filing them and attorneys who facilitate them. On illegals overall, we need to decide if we want cheap yardwork, or borders with integrity. Efforts to have it both ways leads to this kind of foolishness and invalidates the War on Terror. According to the article, attorney James Cueva DIDN’T do his duty as a citizen and turn in an illegal alien, but rather THREATENED to do so IF the lawsuit was filed. I don’t see much a hero in Mr. Cueva or the SBS. If he were not an attorney, his actions would look a lot like blackmail. He should have immediately turned over the information regarding the illegal to the INS, not use it as a legal manuever.

That said, I wish the punishment for filing frivolous lawsuits included a death penalty option for those filing them and attorneys who facilitate them. On illegals overall, we need to decide if we want cheap yardwork, or borders with integrity. Efforts to have it both ways leads to this kind of foolishness and invalidates the War on Terror.

]]> By: kender http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/01/25/undocumented-and-out-of-luck/comment-page-1/#comment-489635 kender Thu, 25 Jan 2007 18:27:03 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/01/25/undocumented-and-out-of-luck/#comment-489635 just wow.....I am taking the advice of a recent email and attempting to become an illegal alien also so I can skip out on taxes and ignore insurance and licensing requirements prescribed by law. just wow…..I am taking the advice of a recent email and attempting to become an illegal alien also so I can skip out on taxes and ignore insurance and licensing requirements prescribed by law.

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