I do believe that through your satire to show the insanity of open border anarchism, you showed us some things that could become frighteningly prophetic if we don’t get informed, enraged and ACT!

Go Mitt Go!

If MILLIONS of invading illegal aliens come here to soak off of our welfare, commit identity theft, cause whole sectors of our economy to become pay and benefit depressed by cheap labor so Americans become increasingly disinterested in these sectors, cause huge amounts of environmental damage, cause the closings of score of hospitals and emergency rooms across the nation, cause overcrowding at scores of schools around the country, cause overcrowding in jails and prisons across the U.S., funnel untold millions of dollars worth of hard drugs into the U.S., and want to form something called Aztlan in the same areas where the U.S. gained land from Mexico in the war we had with them, then we have a spectacular national crises on our hands.

It seems as though enforcing the LAW is not good for the Bushites, who want cheap labor for their multinational big business interests who back them. Their vision for America is now being put into place at the foundational level through the creation of a new political configuration called the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP). It will broaden and deepen the three nations through the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) in dramatic ways.

If we actually enforced the law and had all illegal immigrants return to their original countries to wait in line and apply for LEGAL enterence into the United States, we would undermine the whole reason why they come here: once they break the law and are inside the U.S., they are immune from immigration laws and are able to recieve vast amounts of benefits.

Go Mitt Go!

Lisa said as long as we are getting our lawns mowed, our kids taken care of and our friut picked, we are OK with that. How many on this site have hired illegals to mow your lawn and would you really trust your children to someone whose backgroud you do not know? Good luck trying to do a background check on someone from another nation and if you do leave your kids with someone whose background you don’t know, in my opinion that makes you a piss poor parent. So now we have eliminate two of the three reasons leaving only our fruit. Is a nice juicy apple from Washington, picked by illegals, really worth the price we pay?

ME talks about the illegal’s tin-shacks-in-shit. Obviously ME has never read the Pew Hispanic Research Center study that shows that most who enter our nation illegally had jobs in their native lands. People who live in tin-shacks-in-shit can’t afford the $2,000.00 that it costs for the cayote to bring them here.

Here is a thought for you: illegal immigrants contribute to the state of Texas $1.3 Billion a year in taxes. BUT THEY COST THE STATE OVER $5 BILLION FOR JUST EDUCATION, MEDICAL TREATMENT AND INCARCERATION. Just those three things; and it doesn’t include the cost for WIC, AFDC, TANF, public housing or any other social welfare program.

How much are you willing to pay in taxes to support the services required by illegals; special translators for medical facilities, English as a second language teachers, the cost to utility companies to print their bills in Spanish? To support your “I’m such a compassionate person” feelings, how much in extra taxes a year are you willing to cough up? $2,000? $3,000? $4,000? Or you willing to take that much money away from your own family so that you can support your “compasionate” feelings? And what if every ethnic group that has illegals in our nation started demanding the same benefits as those who speak Spanish? Can you see your telephone bill now? It would come in a box because it would include a copy in Gaelic, Farsi, Italian, Polish, German and Cantonese. Think your phone bill might go up just a tad? And every school would have to staff someone who spoke those languages along with all hospitals, doctor’s offices and municipal offices.

It is all well and good to be sympathetic to someone’s plight. But it really isn’t our problem, now is it? Their plight is really the problem of their native nation. We cannot bring all the poor people here. How many in Nigera are much worse off than say, those from Mexico? Are you willing to send 747’s to Nigera and bring all those poor people here and support them until they are assimilated enought to earn a living and not require social services?

Why should any illegal respect our laws? They broke them (according to the Pew Hispanic Research Center, knowingly) when they came. Do you think that we they got on this side of the borders they all of a sudden got a sudden twinge to start honoring our laws?

We have enough drunk drivers that are Americans (I know, my father was killed by one). We don’t need to be importing them.

From what I can understand you have an issue of large numbers of illegal immigrants, with no strong willed action either way from government on what they want to do about it, and yet at the same time, people who are willing to go through the work of meeting all the requirements and are highly skilled and experienced, have a lot of hoops put up for them to jump through. I could understand if I was coming from a country that has, shall we say, issues with the US at the moment - I hardly think New Zealand is a hotbed of terrorism though

Nevertheless, I am still working moving to the USA, and becoming an American citizen.
Sorry for going off-topic for a bit.

Sorry but look at it this way If he would not have been here in the USA he would not have been drinking and driving with the end result of a death. I am a firm believer that if you want to live in the US or any other country for that matter you need to do it the right and legal way.
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Since Bill is so hyped up about the “larger issue”, I think I’ll introduce the vast concept that “we” never arrived here legally either. Ask any descendant of the continental natives either exterminated or subsumed by the European conquest how their culture perceives our wonderful tradition of legality in emigration.

This is not an issue about illegal immigration except in some much larger context which must certainly include such “causes” as the pull factors of our demand for cheap manual labor and our high standards of living (relative to most of the world).

If Ramos’s status as an illegal immigrant is the real crime here, should the folks who employed him, housed him, gave him that alcohol, etc. be held as accomplices to vehicular manslaughter?

I think Bill’s argument is a specious and opportunistic attempt to prop up his pet social theories in a field of contrary evidence so well laid out by commentor ME above.