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		<title>By: Watcher of Weasels</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/04/25/changing-times-demand-telling-the-truth-in-wartime/comment-page-1/#comment-660395</link>
		<dc:creator>Watcher of Weasels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 06:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Council Has Spoken!...&lt;/strong&gt;

First off...&#160; any spambots reading this should immediately go here, here, here,&#160; and here.&#160; Die spambots, die!&#160; And now...&#160; the winning entries in the Watcher's Council vote for this week are Cornelia, Mother of the Gracchi by...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Council Has Spoken!&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>First off&#8230;&nbsp; any spambots reading this should immediately go here, here, here,&nbsp; and here.&nbsp; Die spambots, die!&nbsp; And now&#8230;&nbsp; the winning entries in the Watcher&#8217;s Council vote for this week are Cornelia, Mother of the Gracchi by&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Glittering Eye &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Eye on the Watcher&#8217;s Council</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/04/25/changing-times-demand-telling-the-truth-in-wartime/comment-page-1/#comment-657368</link>
		<dc:creator>The Glittering Eye &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Eye on the Watcher&#8217;s Council</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 15:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Right Wing Nut House, â€œChanging Times Require Telling the Truth in Wartimeâ€ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Right Wing Nut House, â€œChanging Times Require Telling the Truth in Wartimeâ€ [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Watcher of Weasels</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/04/25/changing-times-demand-telling-the-truth-in-wartime/comment-page-1/#comment-656743</link>
		<dc:creator>Watcher of Weasels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 05:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Submitted for Your Approval...&lt;/strong&gt;

First off...&#160; any spambots reading this should immediately go here, here, here,&#160; and here.&#160; Die spambots, die!&#160; And now...&#160; here are all the links submitted by members of the Watcher's Council for this week's vote. Council li...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Submitted for Your Approval&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>First off&#8230;&nbsp; any spambots reading this should immediately go here, here, here,&nbsp; and here.&nbsp; Die spambots, die!&nbsp; And now&#8230;&nbsp; here are all the links submitted by members of the Watcher&#8217;s Council for this week&#8217;s vote. Council li&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: craig mclaughlin</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/04/25/changing-times-demand-telling-the-truth-in-wartime/comment-page-1/#comment-649266</link>
		<dc:creator>craig mclaughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See Ray Robinson's piece:
 americanthinker.com/2007/04/media_lynch_mob.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See Ray Robinson&#8217;s piece:<br />
 americanthinker.com/2007/04/media_lynch_mob.html</p>
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		<title>By: craig mclaughlin</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/04/25/changing-times-demand-telling-the-truth-in-wartime/comment-page-1/#comment-648516</link>
		<dc:creator>craig mclaughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 04:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"A similar denseness captivated the officers and higher ups at the Pentagon when Jessica Lynch was rescued. The young woman was made into a â€œLittle Girl Ramboâ€'

The 'little girl rambo' stuff came from one anonymous source in one Washington Post story from 3 April.  Then it was repeated constantly by every other media source and outlet. No DOD official ever confirmed any of that stuff on the record that I can recall. The Post story, byline Susan Schmidt and Vernon Loeb, also contained this graf:

"Several officials cautioned that the precise sequence of events is still being determined, and that further information will emerge as Lynch is debriefed. Reports thus far are based on battlefield intelligence, they said, which comes from monitored communications and from Iraqi sources in Nasiriyah whose reliability has yet to be assessed. Pentagon officials said they had heard "rumors" of Lynch's heroics but had no confirmation."

The monitored comms and iraqi source referred to in the graf above described the heroic actions of SGT Donald Walters which were mistakenly attributed to Jessica Lynch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A similar denseness captivated the officers and higher ups at the Pentagon when Jessica Lynch was rescued. The young woman was made into a â€œLittle Girl Ramboâ€&#8217;</p>
<p>The &#8216;little girl rambo&#8217; stuff came from one anonymous source in one Washington Post story from 3 April.  Then it was repeated constantly by every other media source and outlet. No DOD official ever confirmed any of that stuff on the record that I can recall. The Post story, byline Susan Schmidt and Vernon Loeb, also contained this graf:</p>
<p>&#8220;Several officials cautioned that the precise sequence of events is still being determined, and that further information will emerge as Lynch is debriefed. Reports thus far are based on battlefield intelligence, they said, which comes from monitored communications and from Iraqi sources in Nasiriyah whose reliability has yet to be assessed. Pentagon officials said they had heard &#8220;rumors&#8221; of Lynch&#8217;s heroics but had no confirmation.&#8221;</p>
<p>The monitored comms and iraqi source referred to in the graf above described the heroic actions of SGT Donald Walters which were mistakenly attributed to Jessica Lynch.</p>
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		<title>By: nabalzbbfr</title>
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		<dc:creator>nabalzbbfr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 03:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How petty and small-minded! Embellishment of heroic war stories in order to inspire people is an ancient literary tradition going back to Homer's day, if not earlier. One is not supposed to take them literally. Jessica Lynch and Pat Tillman represent photogenic archetypes of our brave fighting men and women. While the stories told about them may not be literally true, they portray a larger "big picture" truth, which is entirely valid. Reasonable people understand this. If Waxman and company think they can make hay out of this to advance their nefarious schemes, they will be sorely disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How petty and small-minded! Embellishment of heroic war stories in order to inspire people is an ancient literary tradition going back to Homer&#8217;s day, if not earlier. One is not supposed to take them literally. Jessica Lynch and Pat Tillman represent photogenic archetypes of our brave fighting men and women. While the stories told about them may not be literally true, they portray a larger &#8220;big picture&#8221; truth, which is entirely valid. Reasonable people understand this. If Waxman and company think they can make hay out of this to advance their nefarious schemes, they will be sorely disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 22:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joey  - You misunderstood my comment, probably my fault, but I was not suggesting that it was ok to lie to sell the war.  My husband (active duty military) and I constantly decry attempts to lie and cover up situations.  Tell the truth and take your licks.  I guess I should have said, how should/could the administration done a better of selling the war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joey  - You misunderstood my comment, probably my fault, but I was not suggesting that it was ok to lie to sell the war.  My husband (active duty military) and I constantly decry attempts to lie and cover up situations.  Tell the truth and take your licks.  I guess I should have said, how should/could the administration done a better of selling the war.</p>
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		<title>By: ajacksonian</title>
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		<dc:creator>ajacksonian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And where, in this, is the Inspectors General of the Army and DoD?  Such accusations should go to them *first*.  Congress could have asked for the IGs to go through this and report on it before holding a single public hearing.  If Congress believes that the IGs are corrupt, then it is time to hold hearings... about the IG process and institute something to fix it.  That is a slow process, yes, and does not always come to great conclusion... but it happens out of the limelight and gets information from all of those inside the decision process and documents it.

Why the grandstanding?  Did the IGs come forward with reports prior to this?  Did they put forth that there is a problem in the process?  Or does Congress suspect the IGs of not doing their job?  This sort of process *must* go through those laws set by Congress and when Congress intervenes it *also* starts changing the character of testimony and some of *that* may not thereafter be available to the IGs.  If you want a non-political military system, then use the non-political process set up to find, identify and rectify such things.  That is if you *want* a non-partisan set of armed forces.

We do want that here, yes?

Because the grandstanding by *either* party hurts that process.  Only when Congress sees it *fail* does that require hearings and such.  Putting it before the cameras first is not the way to do it.  Unless you are aiming to make things partisan...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And where, in this, is the Inspectors General of the Army and DoD?  Such accusations should go to them *first*.  Congress could have asked for the IGs to go through this and report on it before holding a single public hearing.  If Congress believes that the IGs are corrupt, then it is time to hold hearings&#8230; about the IG process and institute something to fix it.  That is a slow process, yes, and does not always come to great conclusion&#8230; but it happens out of the limelight and gets information from all of those inside the decision process and documents it.</p>
<p>Why the grandstanding?  Did the IGs come forward with reports prior to this?  Did they put forth that there is a problem in the process?  Or does Congress suspect the IGs of not doing their job?  This sort of process *must* go through those laws set by Congress and when Congress intervenes it *also* starts changing the character of testimony and some of *that* may not thereafter be available to the IGs.  If you want a non-political military system, then use the non-political process set up to find, identify and rectify such things.  That is if you *want* a non-partisan set of armed forces.</p>
<p>We do want that here, yes?</p>
<p>Because the grandstanding by *either* party hurts that process.  Only when Congress sees it *fail* does that require hearings and such.  Putting it before the cameras first is not the way to do it.  Unless you are aiming to make things partisan&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Bosler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Bosler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spc O'Neal is using damning and incorrect words. Under any reading of this issue, Tillman was NOT killed by fratricide. Any vet can tell you: fratricide is the INTENTIONAL killing of a fellow soldier or officer. There has been no evidence or allegations of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spc O&#8217;Neal is using damning and incorrect words. Under any reading of this issue, Tillman was NOT killed by fratricide. Any vet can tell you: fratricide is the INTENTIONAL killing of a fellow soldier or officer. There has been no evidence or allegations of this.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikolay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nikolay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;whose character assassination by the left continues to this day&lt;/blockquote&gt;When citing those fringe elements, it would be at least fair to acknowledge the fact that Tillman was far left himself (I guess, being a fan of Chomsky makes you _far_ left).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>whose character assassination by the left continues to this day</p></blockquote>
<p>When citing those fringe elements, it would be at least fair to acknowledge the fact that Tillman was far left himself (I guess, being a fan of Chomsky makes you _far_ left).</p>
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