Comments on: THE TROUBLE WITH HARRY III http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/04/26/the-trouble-with-harry-2/ Politics served up with a smile... And a stilletto. Fri, 17 Apr 2026 15:52:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Joe Helgerson http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/04/26/the-trouble-with-harry-2/comment-page-1/#comment-651879 Joe Helgerson Sat, 28 Apr 2007 16:10:16 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/04/26/the-trouble-with-harry-2/#comment-651879 Sorry folks, no matter what Harry Reid said, it won't change the reality on the ground in Iraq. Broder comparing Reid with Alberto Gonzalez is ludicrous at best. Broder was once the king of the Beltway pundits, but now with the internet he is a bit player. Most people are ignoring the little cocktail weeny parties among the inside the beltway elitists. Okay the hard right won one 24 hour newscycle, I'll give them that but...... 65% of the American people want a timeline to withdraw from Iraq. Beating up on the "defeatist" Harry Reid won't change that statistic. So neo-clowns, bask in the glow of Reids statement(which by the way was taken out of context,go read the entire statement). When Reid putting his foot in his mouth is all you have, then you know the war is an utter disaster, the president is a clown, Cheney lives in a different universe. Dudes, your grasping at straws, your starting to appear desperate and pathetic. Please direct your anger and energy at Maliki for not working out a settlement with the Sunnis. Directing your rage at Reid for telling the truth won't salvage a failed policy, give it a rest. Unless you want to send 500,000 troops to Iraq for 10 years and another TRILLION dollars, just admit Bush failed, just like the boy king has failed in everything in his entire life. Directing your anger at Reid is just a petty, short term, feel good moment. Dude it doesn't change anything. Call us dems defeatists until the cows come home, we know were right, deep down you know were right, its called denial. The truth shall set you free. Sorry folks, no matter what Harry Reid said, it won’t change the reality on the ground in Iraq. Broder comparing Reid with Alberto Gonzalez is ludicrous at best. Broder was once the king of the Beltway pundits, but now with the internet he is a bit player. Most people are ignoring the little cocktail weeny parties among the inside the beltway elitists. Okay the hard right won one 24 hour newscycle, I’ll give them that but…… 65% of the American people want a timeline to withdraw from Iraq. Beating up on the “defeatist” Harry Reid won’t change that statistic. So neo-clowns, bask in the glow of Reids statement(which by the way was taken out of context,go read the entire statement). When Reid putting his foot in his mouth is all you have, then you know the war is an utter disaster, the president is a clown, Cheney lives in a different universe. Dudes, your grasping at straws, your starting to appear desperate and pathetic. Please direct your anger and energy at Maliki for not working out a settlement with the Sunnis. Directing your rage at Reid for telling the truth won’t salvage a failed policy, give it a rest. Unless you want to send 500,000 troops to Iraq for 10 years and another TRILLION dollars, just admit Bush failed, just like the boy king has failed in everything in his entire life. Directing your anger at Reid is just a petty, short term, feel good moment. Dude it doesn’t change anything. Call us dems defeatists until the cows come home, we know were right, deep down you know were right, its called denial. The truth shall set you free.

]]> By: Doug Purdie http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/04/26/the-trouble-with-harry-2/comment-page-1/#comment-650440 Doug Purdie Fri, 27 Apr 2007 17:41:47 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/04/26/the-trouble-with-harry-2/#comment-650440 "If you believe there is no hope of winning in Iraq, or that the costs of victory there are not worth it, then you should be for complete withdrawal as soon as possible." Joe Leiberman Rick, You are no longer the only one making that point. Kudos to Mr. Leiberman. If only he had put more emphasis on that point and if he had only made the point with a more adversarial tone... “If you believe there is no hope of winning in Iraq, or that the costs of victory there are not worth it, then you should be for complete withdrawal as soon as possible.”

Joe Leiberman

Rick,
You are no longer the only one making that point. Kudos to Mr. Leiberman. If only he had put more emphasis on that point and if he had only made the point with a more adversarial tone…

]]> By: Doug Ross @ Journal http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/04/26/the-trouble-with-harry-2/comment-page-1/#comment-650019 Doug Ross @ Journal Fri, 27 Apr 2007 10:15:14 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/04/26/the-trouble-with-harry-2/#comment-650019 <strong>Harry Reid through history...</strong> See the proud tradition of Harry Reid through the prism of American conflicts: Valley Forge, Tippecanoe, etc.... Harry Reid through history…

See the proud tradition of Harry Reid through the prism of American conflicts: Valley Forge, Tippecanoe, etc….

]]> By: The Oxford Medievalist http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/04/26/the-trouble-with-harry-2/comment-page-1/#comment-649414 The Oxford Medievalist Thu, 26 Apr 2007 22:30:46 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/04/26/the-trouble-with-harry-2/#comment-649414 <strong>Reid Alert!...</strong> Blind Harry has got some problems! First his hometown paper calls him a clown, now uber-liberal columnist David Broder calls out Senator Harry Reid's utter incompetence. ... Reid Alert!…

Blind Harry has got some problems! First his hometown paper calls him a clown, now uber-liberal columnist David Broder calls out Senator Harry Reid’s utter incompetence.
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]]> By: Freedom Fighter http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/04/26/the-trouble-with-harry-2/comment-page-1/#comment-649276 Freedom Fighter Thu, 26 Apr 2007 19:04:19 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/04/26/the-trouble-with-harry-2/#comment-649276 I agree with you that Reid and Pelosi have underlined the defeatist and disloyal stance of much of the Democrat party. I don't agree with you that George Bush will get any great bounce out of this...nor does he deserve to.He will be fortunate to get out of office without being impeached. The repercussions of the current drama - hopefully - will be felt in`08. I agree with you that Reid and Pelosi have underlined the defeatist and disloyal stance of much of the Democrat party.

I don’t agree with you that George Bush will get any great bounce out of this…nor does he deserve to.He will be fortunate to get out of office without being impeached.

The repercussions of the current drama - hopefully - will be felt in`08.

]]> By: Doug Purdie http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/04/26/the-trouble-with-harry-2/comment-page-1/#comment-649211 Doug Purdie Thu, 26 Apr 2007 17:53:18 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/04/26/the-trouble-with-harry-2/#comment-649211 Rick, Reid seems to think that leaving American soldiers on the battlefield to fight and die in a batlle they can't win, for another 6 months is A-OK. If he said we can't win and called for immediate withdrawel, fine. I disagree, but at least his proposed solution would be consistant with his view of the problem. Instead, he is saying let's let the soldiers struggle and die for another 6 months before we bring them home. Instead of harping on his defeatism, we should harp on his lack of concern for dying American soldiers. He's giving us Hawks an openning, but nobody except you seems to recognize how best to exploit it. Rick,

Reid seems to think that leaving American soldiers on the battlefield to fight and die in a batlle they can’t win, for another 6 months is A-OK. If he said we can’t win and called for immediate withdrawel, fine. I disagree, but at least his proposed solution would be consistant with his view of the problem. Instead, he is saying let’s let the soldiers struggle and die for another 6 months before we bring them home.

Instead of harping on his defeatism, we should harp on his lack of concern for dying American soldiers. He’s giving us Hawks an openning, but nobody except you seems to recognize how best to exploit it.

]]> By: Hallfasthero http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/04/26/the-trouble-with-harry-2/comment-page-1/#comment-649116 Hallfasthero Thu, 26 Apr 2007 15:22:22 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/04/26/the-trouble-with-harry-2/#comment-649116 As Harry said, Iraq needs to be handled diplomatically, not militarily. Rick, I wonder if you read your own posts. The fact that the Americans are looking at the prospect of leaving (which we should) is likely forcing the issue of resolution. Put more simply, no project ever gets done unless a deadline is set for it. If GWB had his way, we would be there forever and a day and would be stuck in the middle of a civil war that no one sees any point in ending. May I remind you that the soldiers are getting their tours of duty extended, the hardware they have is getting worn out. They are being sent back without even being entirely healed up and they are the only ones in the entire country sacrificing for this war. You are not and you never have. Neither for that matter am I. This conflict has gone on longer than WWII and still has little or nothing to show for it. There is a possible blip in the radar concerning a story of one faction and suddenly you want to scream from the top of the hills that GWB is right and the Dem's are wrong. You are willing to leave those soldiers in that meat grinder based on that? Don't you have any sense of what you are talking about? Sorry but if GWB had been more forthcoming about the circumstances and had not been busted for telling one fairy tale after another about how the war was truly going, I might concede he deserved another chance. Trust is something that I think GWB feels he is entitled to. He has either forgotten or, perhaps never knew that it is earned. Under the circumstances, he has lost trust. Maybe the news in Iraq is getting better, but I no longer believe the news enough to risk any more lives. Too little and too late. Sorry if the post seems a little disjointed, I could only work on it in parts. Mock away. As Harry said, Iraq needs to be handled diplomatically, not militarily. Rick, I wonder if you read your own posts. The fact that the Americans are looking at the prospect of leaving (which we should) is likely forcing the issue of resolution. Put more simply, no project ever gets done unless a deadline is set for it.

If GWB had his way, we would be there forever and a day and would be stuck in the middle of a civil war that no one sees any point in ending. May I remind you that the soldiers are getting their tours of duty extended, the hardware they have is getting worn out. They are being sent back without even being entirely healed up and they are the only ones in the entire country sacrificing for this war. You are not and you never have. Neither for that matter am I.

This conflict has gone on longer than WWII and still has little or nothing to show for it. There is a possible blip in the radar concerning a story of one faction and suddenly you want to scream from the top of the hills that GWB is right and the Dem’s are wrong. You are willing to leave those soldiers in that meat grinder based on that? Don’t you have any sense of what you are talking about?

Sorry but if GWB had been more forthcoming about the circumstances and had not been busted for telling one fairy tale after another about how the war was truly going, I might concede he deserved another chance. Trust is something that I think GWB feels he is entitled to. He has either forgotten or, perhaps never knew that it is earned. Under the circumstances, he has lost trust. Maybe the news in Iraq is getting better, but I no longer believe the news enough to risk any more lives. Too little and too late.

Sorry if the post seems a little disjointed, I could only work on it in parts. Mock away.

]]> By: David M http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/04/26/the-trouble-with-harry-2/comment-page-1/#comment-649107 David M Thu, 26 Apr 2007 15:10:12 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/04/26/the-trouble-with-harry-2/#comment-649107 Trackbacked by The Thunder Run - <a href="http://thunderrun.blogspot.com/2007/04/web-reconnaissance-for-04262007.html" rel="nofollow">Web Reconnaissance for 04/26/2007</a> A short recon of what’s out there that might draw your attention. Trackbacked by The Thunder Run - Web Reconnaissance for 04/26/2007
A short recon of what’s out there that might draw your attention.

]]> By: The Thunder Run http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/04/26/the-trouble-with-harry-2/comment-page-1/#comment-649105 The Thunder Run Thu, 26 Apr 2007 15:03:56 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/04/26/the-trouble-with-harry-2/#comment-649105 <strong>Web Reconnaissance for 04/26/2007...</strong> A short recon of whatÂ’s out there that might draw your attention.... Web Reconnaissance for 04/26/2007…

A short recon of whatÂ’s out there that might draw your attention….

]]> By: clarice feldman http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/04/26/the-trouble-with-harry-2/comment-page-1/#comment-649076 clarice feldman Thu, 26 Apr 2007 14:05:06 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/04/26/the-trouble-with-harry-2/#comment-649076 Very good,Rick. It was the first thing I read this morning and it set a good mood for the day. Very good,Rick. It was the first thing I read this morning and it set a good mood for the day.

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