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	<title>Comments on: A SHORT AND RATHER UNNECESSARY RESPONSE TO CHRIS MUIR</title>
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		<title>By: Gary Ogletree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Ogletree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 15:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Gary Ogletree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Ogletree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 15:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoy how Yankees pols always feel obligated to take a shot at the Rebel flag when they come to SC.  I think it's up to the people of SC to figure it out.  It Dems hate the Battle Flag so much why are they displaying half of it on their podium at the big press conference on surrender?  See current pic at Pajamas...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoy how Yankees pols always feel obligated to take a shot at the Rebel flag when they come to SC.  I think it&#8217;s up to the people of SC to figure it out.  It Dems hate the Battle Flag so much why are they displaying half of it on their podium at the big press conference on surrender?  See current pic at Pajamas&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: CayuteKitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>CayuteKitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 04:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick Moran said:

"But I will continue to make the argument that yes indeed, there are some symbols and words that are just too offensive, too drenched with a history of repression and violence that the use of them in any context and regardless of intent is just plain wrong."

What this argument fails to allow for is the fact that as time passes subsequent generations tend to form and follow new trends in language.

The "black face", in the context used by Chris Muir, is today's generations' way of nailing the tag of "hypocrite" right to the target.

I'm sick of political correctness, which dredges up history from the rotting corpses that long ago should have turned to ashes.  Who I am today, who we are today as a nation, is NOT defined by our history, but rather whether we have learned the lessons of that history and are actively growing and changing to incorporate the wisdom gleaned by past mistakes.

Putting people on a perpetual guilt trip simply because long ago generations were not sophisticated enough to recognize the destructive trends of their eras is foolish and self-defeating.

My ancestors were Vikings.  And I was born and raised in Camden, New Jersey, into a very poor, very large white family.  My neighbors were Blacks, Puerto Ricans, Jews, Italians, Irish, on and on.  We didn't have to deal with racial prejudices back then because we were too racially diverse.  But we shared the common bond of being dirt poor.

Shall I tell you what kind of extremely destructive and hurtful prejudices exist against poor folk, especially poor white trash?  I think not.  Just like any other prejudice and hardship in life, it had to be overcome.

Rather than waste time running around like "thought police", I think you "politically correct" types would help things along much more effectively by comparing past and present, looking for the improvements that have been made, even small ones, and sharing that wisdom for all of us living in today's very complex world.

And give positive advice and offer growth-encouraging perspectives where appropriate, instead of having knee-jerk reactionary lynchings should someone slip up.

This -is- the 21st Century, after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick Moran said:</p>
<p>&#8220;But I will continue to make the argument that yes indeed, there are some symbols and words that are just too offensive, too drenched with a history of repression and violence that the use of them in any context and regardless of intent is just plain wrong.&#8221;</p>
<p>What this argument fails to allow for is the fact that as time passes subsequent generations tend to form and follow new trends in language.</p>
<p>The &#8220;black face&#8221;, in the context used by Chris Muir, is today&#8217;s generations&#8217; way of nailing the tag of &#8220;hypocrite&#8221; right to the target.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sick of political correctness, which dredges up history from the rotting corpses that long ago should have turned to ashes.  Who I am today, who we are today as a nation, is NOT defined by our history, but rather whether we have learned the lessons of that history and are actively growing and changing to incorporate the wisdom gleaned by past mistakes.</p>
<p>Putting people on a perpetual guilt trip simply because long ago generations were not sophisticated enough to recognize the destructive trends of their eras is foolish and self-defeating.</p>
<p>My ancestors were Vikings.  And I was born and raised in Camden, New Jersey, into a very poor, very large white family.  My neighbors were Blacks, Puerto Ricans, Jews, Italians, Irish, on and on.  We didn&#8217;t have to deal with racial prejudices back then because we were too racially diverse.  But we shared the common bond of being dirt poor.</p>
<p>Shall I tell you what kind of extremely destructive and hurtful prejudices exist against poor folk, especially poor white trash?  I think not.  Just like any other prejudice and hardship in life, it had to be overcome.</p>
<p>Rather than waste time running around like &#8220;thought police&#8221;, I think you &#8220;politically correct&#8221; types would help things along much more effectively by comparing past and present, looking for the improvements that have been made, even small ones, and sharing that wisdom for all of us living in today&#8217;s very complex world.</p>
<p>And give positive advice and offer growth-encouraging perspectives where appropriate, instead of having knee-jerk reactionary lynchings should someone slip up.</p>
<p>This -is- the 21st Century, after all.</p>
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		<title>By: Lissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 22:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we've got a fundamental disconnect going on here.  As Sister Toldjah often writes, just because you have the right to say something, does not make it a/the right thing to say.  I support Chris Muir's right to draw any damn thing he wants.  I support Rick Moran's right to question whether he SHOULD (as opposed to CAN) draw such a thing.  And it's the right of anyone, conservative or liberal, politically correct or in-your-face, to rip a cartoonist a new one when s/he feels a serious boundary of good taste is being crossed.  As I wrote earlier, I was a fan of Chris Muir; I thought the use of black face tasteless and was glad to see he was taking some heat for it; and, based on his comments (as cited by Rick), plan to read less of his work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we&#8217;ve got a fundamental disconnect going on here.  As Sister Toldjah often writes, just because you have the right to say something, does not make it a/the right thing to say.  I support Chris Muir&#8217;s right to draw any damn thing he wants.  I support Rick Moran&#8217;s right to question whether he SHOULD (as opposed to CAN) draw such a thing.  And it&#8217;s the right of anyone, conservative or liberal, politically correct or in-your-face, to rip a cartoonist a new one when s/he feels a serious boundary of good taste is being crossed.  As I wrote earlier, I was a fan of Chris Muir; I thought the use of black face tasteless and was glad to see he was taking some heat for it; and, based on his comments (as cited by Rick), plan to read less of his work.</p>
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		<title>By: Lars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 21:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a child, I enjoyed reading "Little 
Black Sambo", and listening to the "Amos and Andy Show" on radio.  Both were long ago banned because of stereotyping or racism, or something even though I didn't see anything offensive about them.  Seems to me that some in our society have become way too sensitive.
Used to have terms such as "colored people" or "negro", can't say them now and "blacks" has evolved into "African American" even though most are not from Africa. Of course the warlords of race don't want to stop being offended because that is how they derive their power and influence.</description>
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Black Sambo&#8221;, and listening to the &#8220;Amos and Andy Show&#8221; on radio.  Both were long ago banned because of stereotyping or racism, or something even though I didn&#8217;t see anything offensive about them.  Seems to me that some in our society have become way too sensitive.<br />
Used to have terms such as &#8220;colored people&#8221; or &#8220;negro&#8221;, can&#8217;t say them now and &#8220;blacks&#8221; has evolved into &#8220;African American&#8221; even though most are not from Africa. Of course the warlords of race don&#8217;t want to stop being offended because that is how they derive their power and influence.</p>
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		<title>By: SlimGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>SlimGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The difference I see is Joe Liberman has never to my knowledge tried to pander as southern sounding and black empathetic but was painted with the black face by a very left website as a symbol of being a sellout.

Hillary has actually pandered to African-Americans with word choice and southern drawl by choice on her part.

Even if Muir had not blackfaced her, some would have been offended just by the wording he attributed to her in the strip.

When leaving City Hall a few minutes ago I had to wait at a long red light and two African-American males in the lane next to mine were playing a cd of rap or hip-hop that used every last term you could think of that SHOULD be called offensive to blacks and described acts by women that should be offensive to all women.

In the Imus case, I would love to know if any of the offended ladies had any similar music on their Ipod or CD collection.  Sounds like otherwise it was very selective outrage, no so much as what was said but who said it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference I see is Joe Liberman has never to my knowledge tried to pander as southern sounding and black empathetic but was painted with the black face by a very left website as a symbol of being a sellout.</p>
<p>Hillary has actually pandered to African-Americans with word choice and southern drawl by choice on her part.</p>
<p>Even if Muir had not blackfaced her, some would have been offended just by the wording he attributed to her in the strip.</p>
<p>When leaving City Hall a few minutes ago I had to wait at a long red light and two African-American males in the lane next to mine were playing a cd of rap or hip-hop that used every last term you could think of that SHOULD be called offensive to blacks and described acts by women that should be offensive to all women.</p>
<p>In the Imus case, I would love to know if any of the offended ladies had any similar music on their Ipod or CD collection.  Sounds like otherwise it was very selective outrage, no so much as what was said but who said it.</p>
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		<title>By: Wickedpinto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wickedpinto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That strip was on the same day that hillary came to an agreement with the chick who black-faced joe lieberman.  He even mentioned jane hamsher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That strip was on the same day that hillary came to an agreement with the chick who black-faced joe lieberman.  He even mentioned jane hamsher.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Moran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Moran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 19:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nowhere do you see me advocating banning anything. Get a grip.

What I said about Holiday Inn:..."has not been seen on over the air TV for many years." I've seen it on TCM every year. Please read the damn post.

Where in God's green earth did you get the idea I wanted to ban anything? ESPECIALLY AFTER I SPECIFICALLY SAID I WAS OPPOSED TO SUCH A THING? Stop reading things into the post that isn't there.

You wouldn't know "PC" if it came up and bit you in the ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nowhere do you see me advocating banning anything. Get a grip.</p>
<p>What I said about Holiday Inn:&#8230;&#8221;has not been seen on over the air TV for many years.&#8221; I&#8217;ve seen it on TCM every year. Please read the damn post.</p>
<p>Where in God&#8217;s green earth did you get the idea I wanted to ban anything? ESPECIALLY AFTER I SPECIFICALLY SAID I WAS OPPOSED TO SUCH A THING? Stop reading things into the post that isn&#8217;t there.</p>
<p>You wouldn&#8217;t know &#8220;PC&#8221; if it came up and bit you in the ass.</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
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		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 18:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His statement that â€œsymbols only have the power you give them,â€ could also apply to specific words like â€œniggerâ€ (and, one would assume â€œkikeâ€ and â€œspic.â€

Which is the claim used to justify the black use of the dreaded "N" word,in order,it is said,to reclaim it and disempower it.
Honkie,cracker,redneck,trailer trash are all racial,class slurs consciously used to demean,diminish and debase a specific group,should we ban those words?

All symbols offend someone.
Old Glory flew over slavery,share cropping and Jim Crow,should we ban it?The muslim crescent has flown and is flying over aggresive wars of imperialism and oppression,should we ban it?
We are busily banning Christian symbols,less they offend jews,muslims,athists,gay activists,etc.Is this not offensive to many and not just Christians?
The flag issue is more complicated than you acknowledge,frankly.To many,many southerners it has become a symbol of opposition to,dare I say,the cultural imperialism of the White left elite that has long since declared ALL things southern as nasty if not downright evil and to be abolished.
Just mention Nascar and watch the sneers bloom among the Annointed as they shudder in horror.

P.S. I watched "Holiday Inn" on one of the cable channels a couple of months ago,a small inaccuracy that never the less undermines your other factual claims.

P.P.S. You seem to take the idea of banning it as a positive while insisting you oppose censorship.
Well,a neat way to keep your own hands clean,bemoaning censorship in general while implying approval in this case.

P.P.P.S. The last thing the conservative movement needs,or frankly will tolerate,is self appointed Inquistors attempting to police it with "more PC than thou"ness to show they are,unlike THOSE people,socially acceptble to their betters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His statement that â€œsymbols only have the power you give them,â€ could also apply to specific words like â€œniggerâ€ (and, one would assume â€œkikeâ€ and â€œspic.â€</p>
<p>Which is the claim used to justify the black use of the dreaded &#8220;N&#8221; word,in order,it is said,to reclaim it and disempower it.<br />
Honkie,cracker,redneck,trailer trash are all racial,class slurs consciously used to demean,diminish and debase a specific group,should we ban those words?</p>
<p>All symbols offend someone.<br />
Old Glory flew over slavery,share cropping and Jim Crow,should we ban it?The muslim crescent has flown and is flying over aggresive wars of imperialism and oppression,should we ban it?<br />
We are busily banning Christian symbols,less they offend jews,muslims,athists,gay activists,etc.Is this not offensive to many and not just Christians?<br />
The flag issue is more complicated than you acknowledge,frankly.To many,many southerners it has become a symbol of opposition to,dare I say,the cultural imperialism of the White left elite that has long since declared ALL things southern as nasty if not downright evil and to be abolished.<br />
Just mention Nascar and watch the sneers bloom among the Annointed as they shudder in horror.</p>
<p>P.S. I watched &#8220;Holiday Inn&#8221; on one of the cable channels a couple of months ago,a small inaccuracy that never the less undermines your other factual claims.</p>
<p>P.P.S. You seem to take the idea of banning it as a positive while insisting you oppose censorship.<br />
Well,a neat way to keep your own hands clean,bemoaning censorship in general while implying approval in this case.</p>
<p>P.P.P.S. The last thing the conservative movement needs,or frankly will tolerate,is self appointed Inquistors attempting to police it with &#8220;more PC than thou&#8221;ness to show they are,unlike THOSE people,socially acceptble to their betters.</p>
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		<title>By: shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee.  You almost made it to the end of an otherwise very good post without taking a gratuitous swipe at the Big Bad Left.  But you couldn't help yourself.  It's a shame, because you have a good mind and write well.  But you just can't keep your Us vs. Them loathing in check for even a few brief paragraphs.  It really diminishes you as someone worth reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee.  You almost made it to the end of an otherwise very good post without taking a gratuitous swipe at the Big Bad Left.  But you couldn&#8217;t help yourself.  It&#8217;s a shame, because you have a good mind and write well.  But you just can&#8217;t keep your Us vs. Them loathing in check for even a few brief paragraphs.  It really diminishes you as someone worth reading.</p>
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