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		<title>By: Scrapiron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scrapiron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 16:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A democrat working for/against the American people leaked a top secret operation in Iran, the antique MSM (traitors) spread the leak around the world. Iran can't identify the operatives so any American citizen will do. Welcome to the real world of damage done by the democrat traitors who leak National Security Information on a daily basis and the lack of a Justice Department that will prosecute them. Thanks Gonzales.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A democrat working for/against the American people leaked a top secret operation in Iran, the antique MSM (traitors) spread the leak around the world. Iran can&#8217;t identify the operatives so any American citizen will do. Welcome to the real world of damage done by the democrat traitors who leak National Security Information on a daily basis and the lack of a Justice Department that will prosecute them. Thanks Gonzales.</p>
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		<title>By: grognard</title>
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		<dc:creator>grognard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 04:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know most of the people involved were there to visit sick relatives but never the less the State Department warnings about travel in Iran [effective 10/2006] were very specific at the time they went.  Iran does not issue visas to the US, it does not issue passports to the US.. Iran does not recognize religious conversions, there are demonstrations where American citizens could be a target. There is no US diplomatic mission in Iran, all contacts must be through the Swiss embassy.  Above all the State Department warned that Iran  does not recognize dual citizenship, if there were any problems the Iranian government might not allow contact with the Swiss embassy on the grounds that the person in trouble was solely an Iranian citizen and not eligible for any contact with a diplomatic mission.  The State Department did specifically warn about the possibility of arrest and harassment. The warning that is now in effect is only slightly different than the 10/06 warning, the difference being that the now there is a statement that people have been detained.  You canâ€˜t blame the bureaucrats for this ,â€œFoggy Bottomâ€ can only warn you about the consequences of travel,  they canâ€™t stop you from going.  There is some personal responsibility involved when you ignore State Department travel warnings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know most of the people involved were there to visit sick relatives but never the less the State Department warnings about travel in Iran [effective 10/2006] were very specific at the time they went.  Iran does not issue visas to the US, it does not issue passports to the US.. Iran does not recognize religious conversions, there are demonstrations where American citizens could be a target. There is no US diplomatic mission in Iran, all contacts must be through the Swiss embassy.  Above all the State Department warned that Iran  does not recognize dual citizenship, if there were any problems the Iranian government might not allow contact with the Swiss embassy on the grounds that the person in trouble was solely an Iranian citizen and not eligible for any contact with a diplomatic mission.  The State Department did specifically warn about the possibility of arrest and harassment. The warning that is now in effect is only slightly different than the 10/06 warning, the difference being that the now there is a statement that people have been detained.  You canâ€˜t blame the bureaucrats for this ,â€œFoggy Bottomâ€ can only warn you about the consequences of travel,  they canâ€™t stop you from going.  There is some personal responsibility involved when you ignore State Department travel warnings.</p>
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		<title>By: Semanticleo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Semanticleo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 01:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it ironic that Ledeen, The Harlot of Babylon, is miffed that Bush seems preoccupied.

The harlot was a key town-crier in the bum's rush to Iraq.  Now that we are broke and bogged down in that Mesopotamian swamp, he wants to
pump every headline with a new call to arms.

I was able to find some info on the gist of the article (as no links are found)and, since
any exhalation of Ledeens requires a factcheck.(eg. If he declares 'the sun rises in the east' I must rise at dawn to verify)
one would think cites would be abundant.

No, it is not on radar.  Yes, it should be.

But Ledeen should not be the boy yelling 'wolf!'</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it ironic that Ledeen, The Harlot of Babylon, is miffed that Bush seems preoccupied.</p>
<p>The harlot was a key town-crier in the bum&#8217;s rush to Iraq.  Now that we are broke and bogged down in that Mesopotamian swamp, he wants to<br />
pump every headline with a new call to arms.</p>
<p>I was able to find some info on the gist of the article (as no links are found)and, since<br />
any exhalation of Ledeens requires a factcheck.(eg. If he declares &#8216;the sun rises in the east&#8217; I must rise at dawn to verify)<br />
one would think cites would be abundant.</p>
<p>No, it is not on radar.  Yes, it should be.</p>
<p>But Ledeen should not be the boy yelling &#8216;wolf!&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: GnuCarSmell</title>
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		<dc:creator>GnuCarSmell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 22:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A previous poster mistakenly referred to Iran's government as "democratically elected".  While it is true that elections are held in Iran, the supreme guide (the mullahs) insure that only those candidates who support the mullahs' view of Shi'ite Islamic supremacy are permitted to run for office.  In fact, those Iranians who dare challenge the totalitarian vision of Islamic supremacy in favor of democracy are not only excluded from running for office, they are routinely silenced "with extreme prejudice", if you get my drift.

The current hostage-taking we are witnessing there reflects a malignant thuggery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A previous poster mistakenly referred to Iran&#8217;s government as &#8220;democratically elected&#8221;.  While it is true that elections are held in Iran, the supreme guide (the mullahs) insure that only those candidates who support the mullahs&#8217; view of Shi&#8217;ite Islamic supremacy are permitted to run for office.  In fact, those Iranians who dare challenge the totalitarian vision of Islamic supremacy in favor of democracy are not only excluded from running for office, they are routinely silenced &#8220;with extreme prejudice&#8221;, if you get my drift.</p>
<p>The current hostage-taking we are witnessing there reflects a malignant thuggery.</p>
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		<title>By: Sirius Familiaris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sirius Familiaris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 22:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick,

Why not just ban the people who appear to be  trotting out that tired old canard about how we can trust megalomaniacal theocratic dictators but every US action or policy - especially under a Republican administration - is suspect?

The people in charge in Iran right now can't be trusted any farther than they can be thrown. To believe otherwise is beyond naive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick,</p>
<p>Why not just ban the people who appear to be  trotting out that tired old canard about how we can trust megalomaniacal theocratic dictators but every US action or policy - especially under a Republican administration - is suspect?</p>
<p>The people in charge in Iran right now can&#8217;t be trusted any farther than they can be thrown. To believe otherwise is beyond naive.</p>
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		<title>By: Fight4TheRight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fight4TheRight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 20:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The headline over at PatDollard.com says it all:

" USS Enterprise heads to Iran"

(that makes THREE aircraft carriers off Iran)

http://patdollard.com/2007/06/01/uss-enterprise-heads-to-iran/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The headline over at PatDollard.com says it all:</p>
<p>&#8221; USS Enterprise heads to Iran&#8221;</p>
<p>(that makes THREE aircraft carriers off Iran)</p>
<p><a href="http://patdollard.com/2007/06/01/uss-enterprise-heads-to-iran/" rel="nofollow">http://patdollard.com/2007/06/01/uss-enterprise-heads-to-iran/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Fight4TheRight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fight4TheRight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 19:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll just ask one innocent little question here because this thread has gotten a bit "testy."  

Can anyone enlighten me as to a single concession that Iran has EVER made in any negotiation in its history?

And one final point.  The scariest thing about Iran is that in all of the discussions about their nuclear ambitions, the taking of the Brits, their financing Hezbollah and Hamas, theit supplying training and weaponry to Iraq factions...in all of this, they actually believe they are right on all issues.  They aren't pretending or hedging their bets or looking for a better position and throwing out some claims - they actually BELIEVE they are correct on all fronts.  I think every one of us, at some time in our life, has run into a person who is either mentally unstable or full-blown psychotic and we have all experienced that sudden urge to get away from that person - not one of us would have ever considered sitting down with that person and trying to reason with him/her.

And like it or not, Iran is flat out, clinically insane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll just ask one innocent little question here because this thread has gotten a bit &#8220;testy.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Can anyone enlighten me as to a single concession that Iran has EVER made in any negotiation in its history?</p>
<p>And one final point.  The scariest thing about Iran is that in all of the discussions about their nuclear ambitions, the taking of the Brits, their financing Hezbollah and Hamas, theit supplying training and weaponry to Iraq factions&#8230;in all of this, they actually believe they are right on all issues.  They aren&#8217;t pretending or hedging their bets or looking for a better position and throwing out some claims - they actually BELIEVE they are correct on all fronts.  I think every one of us, at some time in our life, has run into a person who is either mentally unstable or full-blown psychotic and we have all experienced that sudden urge to get away from that person - not one of us would have ever considered sitting down with that person and trying to reason with him/her.</p>
<p>And like it or not, Iran is flat out, clinically insane.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikolay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nikolay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 17:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Same goes for you. The fact that those people were trying to undermine the policies of their governmetn is despicable although they didnâ€™t deserve to get arrested.&lt;/blockquote&gt;You meant it's despicable that they were undermining Iran's government? You don't want Milosevic's fate for Ahmadinejad? 
Or were they undermining US's policy? Is US against women rights? Against cultural dialogue? Against fighting AIDS?
Why won't you change the title of the post to "Persian gangsters will try despicable Americans"? 
That's the way freepers see it: if it's about Soros, let them burn. For some mysterious reasons that hatred of Soros doesn't transfer into hatred of Orange Revolution in Ukraine or of Kasparov in Russia. Obviously, when he gets something done, Soros can be forgiven (or forgotten), but when he's only trying -- screw him. 
&lt;blockquote&gt;Khatami â€“ anti-west, anti-American, pro blowing Israel to kingdom come. Some goddamn moderate, huh? And the miniscule reforms he as advocating â€“ halfheartedly and probably only to establish an independent power base with the students â€“ have nothing to do with making Iran a â€œfreeâ€ country.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Really? Two-state solution is blowing Israel to kingdom come? Anti-west? Anti-American? He's certainly not more pro-American than Chirac, but how bad is that? 
And Gorby was, obviously, a saint. FYI, he, or, for that matter, Yeltsin, had more innocent blood on his hands than Khatami. FYI, it's almost impossible to find pro-Israel politicians in the region, and Khatami is certainly less of anti-Semite than 

&lt;blockquote&gt;And WTF do you think AQ Khan was doing in Iran in the mid 90â€™s? Getting a suntan? Khanâ€™s network never â€“ repeat never â€“ helped a country with nuclear expertise that wasnâ€™t trying to build a bomb. And like Pakistan, a nuke would be wildly popular in Iran. So much for your â€œhelping the revolutionâ€ nonsense.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Do you think that Iran is culturally similar to Pakistan? Are you sure? Are you sure that verifiable proof (as opposed to zero-value MKO intelligence) that Ahmadinejad wants his country to be destroyed would have no effect on domestic policies? They seem to get pretty  mad at him for quite minor reasons. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;The â€œsaneâ€ side of Iran doesnâ€™t need awakening. It needs to be in power. And as long as the mullahs and 250,000 Rev guards have their jackboots on the necks of the people, that aint gonna happen.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Do you know Gene Sharp? 250.000 is not that many against well-organized resistance. It takes a good coordination and a well-chosen moment to trigger the process. I'm 100% that a lot of people are working on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Same goes for you. The fact that those people were trying to undermine the policies of their governmetn is despicable although they didnâ€™t deserve to get arrested.</p></blockquote>
<p>You meant it&#8217;s despicable that they were undermining Iran&#8217;s government? You don&#8217;t want Milosevic&#8217;s fate for Ahmadinejad?<br />
Or were they undermining US&#8217;s policy? Is US against women rights? Against cultural dialogue? Against fighting AIDS?<br />
Why won&#8217;t you change the title of the post to &#8220;Persian gangsters will try despicable Americans&#8221;?<br />
That&#8217;s the way freepers see it: if it&#8217;s about Soros, let them burn. For some mysterious reasons that hatred of Soros doesn&#8217;t transfer into hatred of Orange Revolution in Ukraine or of Kasparov in Russia. Obviously, when he gets something done, Soros can be forgiven (or forgotten), but when he&#8217;s only trying &#8212; screw him. </p>
<blockquote><p>Khatami â€“ anti-west, anti-American, pro blowing Israel to kingdom come. Some goddamn moderate, huh? And the miniscule reforms he as advocating â€“ halfheartedly and probably only to establish an independent power base with the students â€“ have nothing to do with making Iran a â€œfreeâ€ country.</p></blockquote>
<p>Really? Two-state solution is blowing Israel to kingdom come? Anti-west? Anti-American? He&#8217;s certainly not more pro-American than Chirac, but how bad is that?<br />
And Gorby was, obviously, a saint. FYI, he, or, for that matter, Yeltsin, had more innocent blood on his hands than Khatami. FYI, it&#8217;s almost impossible to find pro-Israel politicians in the region, and Khatami is certainly less of anti-Semite than </p>
<blockquote><p>And WTF do you think AQ Khan was doing in Iran in the mid 90â€™s? Getting a suntan? Khanâ€™s network never â€“ repeat never â€“ helped a country with nuclear expertise that wasnâ€™t trying to build a bomb. And like Pakistan, a nuke would be wildly popular in Iran. So much for your â€œhelping the revolutionâ€ nonsense.</p></blockquote>
<p>Do you think that Iran is culturally similar to Pakistan? Are you sure? Are you sure that verifiable proof (as opposed to zero-value MKO intelligence) that Ahmadinejad wants his country to be destroyed would have no effect on domestic policies? They seem to get pretty  mad at him for quite minor reasons. </p>
<blockquote><p>The â€œsaneâ€ side of Iran doesnâ€™t need awakening. It needs to be in power. And as long as the mullahs and 250,000 Rev guards have their jackboots on the necks of the people, that aint gonna happen.</p></blockquote>
<p>Do you know Gene Sharp? 250.000 is not that many against well-organized resistance. It takes a good coordination and a well-chosen moment to trigger the process. I&#8217;m 100% that a lot of people are working on that.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Moran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Moran</dc:creator>
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		<description>Nick:

Same goes for you. The fact that those people were trying to undermine the policies of their governmetn is despicable although they didn't deserve to get arrested.

And for God's sake, if you don't know what you're talking about, keep your mouth shut. Khatami=Gorby? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

Khatami - anti-west, anti-American, pro blowing Israel to kingdom come. Some goddamn moderate, huh? And the miniscule reforms he as advocating - halfheartedly and probably only to establish an independent power base with the students - have nothing to do with making Iran a "free" country.

And WTF do you think AQ Khan was doing in Iran in the mid 90's? Getting a suntan? Khan's network never - repeat never - helped a country with nuclear expertise that wasn't trying to build a bomb. And like Pakistan, a nuke would be wildly popular in Iran. So much for your "helping the revolution" nonsense.

The "sane" side of Iran doesn't need awakening. It needs to be in power. And as long as the mullahs and 250,000 Rev guards have their jackboots on the necks of the people, that aint gonna happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick:</p>
<p>Same goes for you. The fact that those people were trying to undermine the policies of their governmetn is despicable although they didn&#8217;t deserve to get arrested.</p>
<p>And for God&#8217;s sake, if you don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re talking about, keep your mouth shut. Khatami=Gorby? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?</p>
<p>Khatami - anti-west, anti-American, pro blowing Israel to kingdom come. Some goddamn moderate, huh? And the miniscule reforms he as advocating - halfheartedly and probably only to establish an independent power base with the students - have nothing to do with making Iran a &#8220;free&#8221; country.</p>
<p>And WTF do you think AQ Khan was doing in Iran in the mid 90&#8217;s? Getting a suntan? Khan&#8217;s network never - repeat never - helped a country with nuclear expertise that wasn&#8217;t trying to build a bomb. And like Pakistan, a nuke would be wildly popular in Iran. So much for your &#8220;helping the revolution&#8221; nonsense.</p>
<p>The &#8220;sane&#8221; side of Iran doesn&#8217;t need awakening. It needs to be in power. And as long as the mullahs and 250,000 Rev guards have their jackboots on the necks of the people, that aint gonna happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Moran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Moran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way Rick, where would we get the troops to take on Iran?

Where in my piece do I advocate military action, nitwit?

I swear to God. People who don't bother to read what I write and comment on this site drive me nuts. And if you read anything I've written you know I OPPOSE military action against Iran.

I'm going to start banning people for being idiots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way Rick, where would we get the troops to take on Iran?</p>
<p>Where in my piece do I advocate military action, nitwit?</p>
<p>I swear to God. People who don&#8217;t bother to read what I write and comment on this site drive me nuts. And if you read anything I&#8217;ve written you know I OPPOSE military action against Iran.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to start banning people for being idiots.</p>
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