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		<title>By: kreiz</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/08/07/blogs-missing-the-real-story-as-usual/comment-page-2/#comment-839314</link>
		<dc:creator>kreiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 18:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Bithead suggests, blogs are reactive, often little more than individual editorial pages.  This is partly why blogs are still dependent upon original news sources, which continue to cut back due to costs and, ironically, lack of sales due to net competition.  TMV's Joe Gandleman has promoted the idea of blogs are original news sources, usually interviews.  (Now that I think about it, that's something you and Ed have done with Blog Radio).  Anyway, Bit's right- blogs' reactivity helps explain the "piling on" phenomenon, even though I agree with you that moderation in this instance is appropriately exercised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Bithead suggests, blogs are reactive, often little more than individual editorial pages.  This is partly why blogs are still dependent upon original news sources, which continue to cut back due to costs and, ironically, lack of sales due to net competition.  TMV&#8217;s Joe Gandleman has promoted the idea of blogs are original news sources, usually interviews.  (Now that I think about it, that&#8217;s something you and Ed have done with Blog Radio).  Anyway, Bit&#8217;s right- blogs&#8217; reactivity helps explain the &#8220;piling on&#8221; phenomenon, even though I agree with you that moderation in this instance is appropriately exercised.</p>
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		<title>By: daveinboca</title>
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		<dc:creator>daveinboca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, perhaps a Mexican standoff in Iraq could be in the offing.  The realization of the Sunni tribal leaders that AQ is a bunch of Taliban crazies has turned them back toward sanity.  The only thing, the elephant in the parlor, resisting a solution is the persistent mistrust Shi'ites have of their Sunni persecutors of more than eighty years [1920-2003] and this may keep the end-game of resulution from happening.  

The left is so heavily invested in defeat that it is a shibboleth/mantra in their campaign rhetoric.  As in Vietnam, they may play an active role in bringing about American defeat, even though Petraeus's strategy is beginning to get results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, perhaps a Mexican standoff in Iraq could be in the offing.  The realization of the Sunni tribal leaders that AQ is a bunch of Taliban crazies has turned them back toward sanity.  The only thing, the elephant in the parlor, resisting a solution is the persistent mistrust Shi&#8217;ites have of their Sunni persecutors of more than eighty years [1920-2003] and this may keep the end-game of resulution from happening.  </p>
<p>The left is so heavily invested in defeat that it is a shibboleth/mantra in their campaign rhetoric.  As in Vietnam, they may play an active role in bringing about American defeat, even though Petraeus&#8217;s strategy is beginning to get results.</p>
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		<title>By: An Open message to Rick Moran &#124; BitsBlog</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Open message to Rick Moran &#124; BitsBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 03:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rick: You say:&#160; Decloaking Beauchamp will not bring us closer to &#8220;victory&#8221; in Iraq &#8211; if such a thing existed outside of the fevered imaginations of an ever dwindling number of conservatives. It will not make up for Abu Ghraib &#8211; another story whose perceived importance far, far outweighed any relationship to the reality of what actually happened. It will not induce the American people to change their minds and embrace the war effort. Nor will it shut the left up which, while something devoutly to be desired, is alas an effort doomed to failure. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Rick: You say:&nbsp; Decloaking Beauchamp will not bring us closer to &ldquo;victory&rdquo; in Iraq &ndash; if such a thing existed outside of the fevered imaginations of an ever dwindling number of conservatives. It will not make up for Abu Ghraib &ndash; another story whose perceived importance far, far outweighed any relationship to the reality of what actually happened. It will not induce the American people to change their minds and embrace the war effort. Nor will it shut the left up which, while something devoutly to be desired, is alas an effort doomed to failure. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 03:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all respect, Rick, blogs are by definition reactionary.  We  react to what is out there.  The bottom line here is that all this "piling on" that you're talking about, that occurred in the Beauchamp case, was a large number of people reacting correctly to being lied to.  It's the kind of thing that lease the editorial boards of newspapers, if not the news staff, used to do.  Alas, they don't do it much anymore.  Which, in turn, is precisely why this new medium exists. 

I don't know how others play this particular game, Rick, but I will tell you the truth about BitsBlog; it's very seldom indeed, then I have tried to promote one of my posts by emailing other bloggers. perhaps this explains why my hit rates are not nearly what I think they should be.   The reason I haven't done it, is it has always struck me as seeking approval from people you're competing with. 

 For my part, I speak my mind, and let it go at that. I am active on other people's Blogs for the same reason. If somebody else is going my way, that's just fine.  If not, see ya.  But I notice a certain talk show host who shall remain nameless, within the studios of WSB has taken note of your efforts. That's not a bad thing.  What that notice suggests is, people are starting to take this medium seriously.  But perhaps you need to study a little more closely why it is they do so... And perhaps the best way to do that, is to examine what would happen without power being here.  Believe me when I tell you, there are those in government who are hitting the prayer mats every night for just such an occurrence.  imagine with me, the results of taking Beauchamp at his word with no resistance. what kind of image would be sent into the minds of the average American?  What kind of image would be sent into the minds of our military in the rest of the world?  Trust me what I tell you that's precisely why the article was written and printed.  Make no mistake; these people are working for the other side. 

It is precisely  because of the incidents like this Beauchamp affair that we in Blogdom are being taken seriously. Far from such Blog Swarms being a BAD thing, I will guarantee you that going forward for the least a little while the media will take fact checking very seriously indeed.  TNR got caught with their pants down on this one.  Again.  To the extent that my adding on my little voice to that particular pig pile help that process along, I consider it a good thing.  Certainly, it is better than the absence of that kind of pressure.  Glenn would call it an Army of Davids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all respect, Rick, blogs are by definition reactionary.  We  react to what is out there.  The bottom line here is that all this &#8220;piling on&#8221; that you&#8217;re talking about, that occurred in the Beauchamp case, was a large number of people reacting correctly to being lied to.  It&#8217;s the kind of thing that lease the editorial boards of newspapers, if not the news staff, used to do.  Alas, they don&#8217;t do it much anymore.  Which, in turn, is precisely why this new medium exists. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how others play this particular game, Rick, but I will tell you the truth about BitsBlog; it&#8217;s very seldom indeed, then I have tried to promote one of my posts by emailing other bloggers. perhaps this explains why my hit rates are not nearly what I think they should be.   The reason I haven&#8217;t done it, is it has always struck me as seeking approval from people you&#8217;re competing with. </p>
<p> For my part, I speak my mind, and let it go at that. I am active on other people&#8217;s Blogs for the same reason. If somebody else is going my way, that&#8217;s just fine.  If not, see ya.  But I notice a certain talk show host who shall remain nameless, within the studios of WSB has taken note of your efforts. That&#8217;s not a bad thing.  What that notice suggests is, people are starting to take this medium seriously.  But perhaps you need to study a little more closely why it is they do so&#8230; And perhaps the best way to do that, is to examine what would happen without power being here.  Believe me when I tell you, there are those in government who are hitting the prayer mats every night for just such an occurrence.  imagine with me, the results of taking Beauchamp at his word with no resistance. what kind of image would be sent into the minds of the average American?  What kind of image would be sent into the minds of our military in the rest of the world?  Trust me what I tell you that&#8217;s precisely why the article was written and printed.  Make no mistake; these people are working for the other side. </p>
<p>It is precisely  because of the incidents like this Beauchamp affair that we in Blogdom are being taken seriously. Far from such Blog Swarms being a BAD thing, I will guarantee you that going forward for the least a little while the media will take fact checking very seriously indeed.  TNR got caught with their pants down on this one.  Again.  To the extent that my adding on my little voice to that particular pig pile help that process along, I consider it a good thing.  Certainly, it is better than the absence of that kind of pressure.  Glenn would call it an Army of Davids.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Mackey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel Mackey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 02:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that pretty much says it all Rick, Tano congratulating you, Ace of Spades flaming you....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that pretty much says it all Rick, Tano congratulating you, Ace of Spades flaming you&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: A Blog For All</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Blog For All</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 00:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Not Quite The Last Word On ScottScam...&lt;/strong&gt;

TNR's editorial process is badly flawed, and in running this series, they not only got more than they bargained for, but besmirched the US Army based on the fabrications of a soldier who was provided an unfettered outlet for his fictionalized account....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Not Quite The Last Word On ScottScam&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>TNR&#8217;s editorial process is badly flawed, and in running this series, they not only got more than they bargained for, but besmirched the US Army based on the fabrications of a soldier who was provided an unfettered outlet for his fictionalized account&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: TNR, Scott Thomas, Rick Moran and Ace of Spades at Conservative Times--Republican GOP news source.</title>
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		<dc:creator>TNR, Scott Thomas, Rick Moran and Ace of Spades at Conservative Times--Republican GOP news source.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 00:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Let me show you why. The title is &#8220;BLOGS MISSING THE REAL STORY AS USUAL&#8221; and then the first two paragraphs are: Getting caught up in a blog swarm on a particular topic can be hazardous. The very fact that so many are writing about the same thing can generate its own momentum, its own â€œnarrative.â€ Each succeeding blogger who writes about the subject feels compelled to attach just a little more meaning, a little more importance to the story until the original subject has been blown so far out of proportion that it becomes lost amidst the cacophony of dramatic â€œrevelationsâ€ and â€œgotchyaâ€ moments. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Let me show you why. The title is &#8220;BLOGS MISSING THE REAL STORY AS USUAL&#8221; and then the first two paragraphs are: Getting caught up in a blog swarm on a particular topic can be hazardous. The very fact that so many are writing about the same thing can generate its own momentum, its own â€œnarrative.â€ Each succeeding blogger who writes about the subject feels compelled to attach just a little more meaning, a little more importance to the story until the original subject has been blown so far out of proportion that it becomes lost amidst the cacophony of dramatic â€œrevelationsâ€ and â€œgotchyaâ€ moments. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Neo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 23:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T&lt;blockquote&gt;he WH and the Pentagon put out the first reports about Lynch â€œfighting until she was out of bullets.â€&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No they didn't.  Take a look at the record, not your memory.  There are &lt;b&gt;no press releases&lt;/b&gt; by either the White House or the Pentagon to that effect.  It was all based on Schmidt and Loeb's fairy tale.  There was nothing from the White House and the Pentagon kept saying "the facts werenâ€™t yet known" and there were "rumors."</description>
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<blockquote>he WH and the Pentagon put out the first reports about Lynch â€œfighting until she was out of bullets.â€</p></blockquote>
<p>No they didn&#8217;t.  Take a look at the record, not your memory.  There are <b>no press releases</b> by either the White House or the Pentagon to that effect.  It was all based on Schmidt and Loeb&#8217;s fairy tale.  There was nothing from the White House and the Pentagon kept saying &#8220;the facts werenâ€™t yet known&#8221; and there were &#8220;rumors.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Thom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 22:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neo

The WH and the Pentagon put out the first reports about Lynch "fighting until she was out of bullets." There was susequent hyping by the press, but good God, don't give the Pentagon a pass. They waited weeks to refute the hero story officially - just like with Tillman, only uglier becauser they lied to his family - and the WaPo  was one of the papers questioning the  story before they came clean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo</p>
<p>The WH and the Pentagon put out the first reports about Lynch &#8220;fighting until she was out of bullets.&#8221; There was susequent hyping by the press, but good God, don&#8217;t give the Pentagon a pass. They waited weeks to refute the hero story officially - just like with Tillman, only uglier becauser they lied to his family - and the WaPo  was one of the papers questioning the  story before they came clean.</p>
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		<title>By: Neo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 22:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want the truth, not hype, not lies.

Take for instance the story about the March 23, 2003, capture in Iraq of Pvt. Jessica Lynch. Henry Waxmanâ€™s House Oversight Committee recently investigated this story (along with the Pat Tilman episode) concentrating on Ms. Lynch and the Pentagon and White House PR surrounding the "legend" status of Ms. Lynch.

The basis of Ms. Lynch's legend came from an unknown "official" used by Susan Schmidt and Vernon Loeb of the Washington Post. â€œSeveralâ€ other â€œofficialsâ€ cautioned that the facts werenâ€™t yet known, and â€œPentagon officialsâ€ said reports of Lynchâ€™s gun-firing heroics were only â€œrumors.â€

House Oversight skipped over the fact that there was no hyping press from either the White House or Pentagon, as Rep. Waxman left the "urban legend" of their propaganda remain intact.  As to the sloppy reporting by The Washington Post, Schmidt and Loeb were never called to talk about their 'heroic adventure' story that got all the other inaccurate reports going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want the truth, not hype, not lies.</p>
<p>Take for instance the story about the March 23, 2003, capture in Iraq of Pvt. Jessica Lynch. Henry Waxmanâ€™s House Oversight Committee recently investigated this story (along with the Pat Tilman episode) concentrating on Ms. Lynch and the Pentagon and White House PR surrounding the &#8220;legend&#8221; status of Ms. Lynch.</p>
<p>The basis of Ms. Lynch&#8217;s legend came from an unknown &#8220;official&#8221; used by Susan Schmidt and Vernon Loeb of the Washington Post. â€œSeveralâ€ other â€œofficialsâ€ cautioned that the facts werenâ€™t yet known, and â€œPentagon officialsâ€ said reports of Lynchâ€™s gun-firing heroics were only â€œrumors.â€</p>
<p>House Oversight skipped over the fact that there was no hyping press from either the White House or Pentagon, as Rep. Waxman left the &#8220;urban legend&#8221; of their propaganda remain intact.  As to the sloppy reporting by The Washington Post, Schmidt and Loeb were never called to talk about their &#8216;heroic adventure&#8217; story that got all the other inaccurate reports going.</p>
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