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		<title>By: retire05</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/08/20/the-conspiracy-to-unionize-north-america/comment-page-1/#comment-861614</link>
		<dc:creator>retire05</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 22:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, when the governor of Texas tells us that the TTC is necessary for the transfer of people/goods across the state, all you have to do is look at the route of the highway to know what is happening.
As to a Spanish consortium getting the TTC contract because it could handle it, one has to wonder why Dean Word was not given the contract and why the Spanish company has admitted that it will have to borrow money to build the TTC.  So could Dean Word and they are an American company building highways in Texas NOW.
And yes, Texans are against the TTC and it will probably cost Rick Perry his next election.  Kay Bailey Hutchison will run against him.  She could very well win if she comes out against the TTC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, when the governor of Texas tells us that the TTC is necessary for the transfer of people/goods across the state, all you have to do is look at the route of the highway to know what is happening.<br />
As to a Spanish consortium getting the TTC contract because it could handle it, one has to wonder why Dean Word was not given the contract and why the Spanish company has admitted that it will have to borrow money to build the TTC.  So could Dean Word and they are an American company building highways in Texas NOW.<br />
And yes, Texans are against the TTC and it will probably cost Rick Perry his next election.  Kay Bailey Hutchison will run against him.  She could very well win if she comes out against the TTC.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/08/20/the-conspiracy-to-unionize-north-america/comment-page-1/#comment-861122</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judicial Watch is filing suit b/c they have bought into the fear of the NAU enough to want to research it. Not every part of a meeting between heads of state is going to be public, ever.

I have read some of Robert Pastor's work and, frankly, he is delusional at best. Any "deepening" of NAFTA would require the Senate's ratification and my state's senators would fear for their well being if they voted for it (Alabama).

I didn't say Stall wasn't qualified. It wasn't meant as a slam. I just pointed out that he was running for political office (see previous reference to political power). I actually think that his loss speaks volumes of what the voters of Texas think.

You are dead right about Al Gore. Silent would be better.

I agree with you that government is inefficient and the Fort Dix Six could have been handled better. When illegals break the law, we need a way to deport them and keep them out.

Your right about TCC and secrecy. If it is as stupid (the second time I referred to the TCC as stupid) as it sounds, it needs to be stopped, but it can only be stopped by the people of Texas.

Spain? Not multinational? Couldn't care less. It is a big project. It is going to need a lot of people and resources. Maybe that means it needs a company larger than any in Texas and the US. I wouldn't think so, but I don't know.

retire05, I have neither hostility towards you nor do I believe you are stupid. My point hasn't changed. The TCC is not a NAFTA superhighway. There is no NAU and there never will be. The American people are culturally different than those in Europe. We will never accept something like the EU here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judicial Watch is filing suit b/c they have bought into the fear of the NAU enough to want to research it. Not every part of a meeting between heads of state is going to be public, ever.</p>
<p>I have read some of Robert Pastor&#8217;s work and, frankly, he is delusional at best. Any &#8220;deepening&#8221; of NAFTA would require the Senate&#8217;s ratification and my state&#8217;s senators would fear for their well being if they voted for it (Alabama).</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t say Stall wasn&#8217;t qualified. It wasn&#8217;t meant as a slam. I just pointed out that he was running for political office (see previous reference to political power). I actually think that his loss speaks volumes of what the voters of Texas think.</p>
<p>You are dead right about Al Gore. Silent would be better.</p>
<p>I agree with you that government is inefficient and the Fort Dix Six could have been handled better. When illegals break the law, we need a way to deport them and keep them out.</p>
<p>Your right about TCC and secrecy. If it is as stupid (the second time I referred to the TCC as stupid) as it sounds, it needs to be stopped, but it can only be stopped by the people of Texas.</p>
<p>Spain? Not multinational? Couldn&#8217;t care less. It is a big project. It is going to need a lot of people and resources. Maybe that means it needs a company larger than any in Texas and the US. I wouldn&#8217;t think so, but I don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>retire05, I have neither hostility towards you nor do I believe you are stupid. My point hasn&#8217;t changed. The TCC is not a NAFTA superhighway. There is no NAU and there never will be. The American people are culturally different than those in Europe. We will never accept something like the EU here.</p>
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		<title>By: retire05</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/08/20/the-conspiracy-to-unionize-north-america/comment-page-1/#comment-860920</link>
		<dc:creator>retire05</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, OK, so you say the particulars of the SPP are not secret.  So why has Judicial Watch filed a law suit under FOA asking for the minutes of meetings pertaining to the SPP?  Ummm? 
And yes, David Stall ran for office.  Does that make him less qualified to speak on the TTC because he lost an election?  If so, there are a lot of people who are not qualified to speak on the things they discuss.  If we use your analogy, Al Gore needs to shut up today.
But you didn't bring that up for any other reason than to slam a person who has honest concerns about the TTC. 

You also say the government should know more about terrorists than you do.  Well, need I mention the over 70 tickets given to the Fort Dix Six?  

I believe that our nation has the right to a certain amount of secrecy when it comes to national security.  The TTC doesn't fall under that catagory.

So you have no problem with a Spanish company building a super highway across the state of Texas where they will set the tolls and gain ALL profit from the highway until it is paid off?  The Spanish company will invest $8 Billion and will reap at least $104 billion.

Do some more study beside taking talking points from those who will not be affected by the TTC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, OK, so you say the particulars of the SPP are not secret.  So why has Judicial Watch filed a law suit under FOA asking for the minutes of meetings pertaining to the SPP?  Ummm?<br />
And yes, David Stall ran for office.  Does that make him less qualified to speak on the TTC because he lost an election?  If so, there are a lot of people who are not qualified to speak on the things they discuss.  If we use your analogy, Al Gore needs to shut up today.<br />
But you didn&#8217;t bring that up for any other reason than to slam a person who has honest concerns about the TTC. </p>
<p>You also say the government should know more about terrorists than you do.  Well, need I mention the over 70 tickets given to the Fort Dix Six?  </p>
<p>I believe that our nation has the right to a certain amount of secrecy when it comes to national security.  The TTC doesn&#8217;t fall under that catagory.</p>
<p>So you have no problem with a Spanish company building a super highway across the state of Texas where they will set the tolls and gain ALL profit from the highway until it is paid off?  The Spanish company will invest $8 Billion and will reap at least $104 billion.</p>
<p>Do some more study beside taking talking points from those who will not be affected by the TTC.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What secret!?! The TTC was a bill (or set of bills, I am not from Texas) passed in the Texas legislature and signed by the Texas governor.
http://ttc.keeptexasmoving.org/default.aspx

The meeting this week has been covered by every major news outlet.

The CFR document can be found with Google.
http://www.cfr.org/content/publications/attachments/NorthAmerica_TF_final.pdf

The SPP has its own website.
http://www.spp.gov/

What is being called a secret, by many, is not what is real but what is feared. If you believe that an American President (with not one patriot in his administration to blow the whistle) would sign away sovereignty, and lessen his own power, with the duplicity (or stupidity) of 535 members of Congress, you are irrationally afraid.

On the issue of secrecy. My government better know more about terrorists than I do. They also should use that information to stop them.

They also should be allowed to conduct their work with some privacy. I am sure someone will try to tee off on this line, but if our Constitutional Framers has tried to negotiate and deliberate in public, we would still be under the Articles of Confederation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What secret!?! The TTC was a bill (or set of bills, I am not from Texas) passed in the Texas legislature and signed by the Texas governor.<br />
<a href="http://ttc.keeptexasmoving.org/default.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://ttc.keeptexasmoving.org/default.aspx</a></p>
<p>The meeting this week has been covered by every major news outlet.</p>
<p>The CFR document can be found with Google.<br />
<a href="http://www.cfr.org/content/publications/attachments/NorthAmerica_TF_final.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.cfr.org/content/publications/attachments/NorthAmerica_TF_final.pdf</a></p>
<p>The SPP has its own website.<br />
<a href="http://www.spp.gov/" rel="nofollow">http://www.spp.gov/</a></p>
<p>What is being called a secret, by many, is not what is real but what is feared. If you believe that an American President (with not one patriot in his administration to blow the whistle) would sign away sovereignty, and lessen his own power, with the duplicity (or stupidity) of 535 members of Congress, you are irrationally afraid.</p>
<p>On the issue of secrecy. My government better know more about terrorists than I do. They also should use that information to stop them.</p>
<p>They also should be allowed to conduct their work with some privacy. I am sure someone will try to tee off on this line, but if our Constitutional Framers has tried to negotiate and deliberate in public, we would still be under the Articles of Confederation.</p>
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		<title>By: feeblemind</title>
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		<dc:creator>feeblemind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 02:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys have never addressed retire05's concerns about this being done in secret. If the meetings/agreements are benign, why not put it all out in the open for all to see? And I have no faith in anything Bush is involved with regarding Mexico. He is clearly more on their side than ours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys have never addressed retire05&#8217;s concerns about this being done in secret. If the meetings/agreements are benign, why not put it all out in the open for all to see? And I have no faith in anything Bush is involved with regarding Mexico. He is clearly more on their side than ours.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really. There is no Nafta highway. This is a Texas plan (and granted it sounds like a real stupid one). If you are against it, contact your local representatives, b/c the Feds are not in charge of this project. If they fail you, run for office.

And help yourself. Don't call it the NAFTA highway, call it what it is. Saying "NAFTA highway" makes you sound like a conspiracy nut and it will affect your appeal to others.

I did review the corridorwatch website. David Stall (his site) ran for State Senate. Did he win?

This sounds like big stupid government. Not nefarious. Stupid.

http://ttc.keeptexasmoving.org/default.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really. There is no Nafta highway. This is a Texas plan (and granted it sounds like a real stupid one). If you are against it, contact your local representatives, b/c the Feds are not in charge of this project. If they fail you, run for office.</p>
<p>And help yourself. Don&#8217;t call it the NAFTA highway, call it what it is. Saying &#8220;NAFTA highway&#8221; makes you sound like a conspiracy nut and it will affect your appeal to others.</p>
<p>I did review the corridorwatch website. David Stall (his site) ran for State Senate. Did he win?</p>
<p>This sounds like big stupid government. Not nefarious. Stupid.</p>
<p><a href="http://ttc.keeptexasmoving.org/default.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://ttc.keeptexasmoving.org/default.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: retire05</title>
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		<dc:creator>retire05</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 13:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, I said in my initial post that I am not a "grassy knoll" person.  I don't know how much clearer I can make that.  But to say there is no NAFTA highway is hiding your head in the sand.  What do you think the TransTexas Corridor is with football field wide highways, lanes for light rail, pipe lines, utilities and specialist truck lanes?  To say that it is not to facilitate NAFTA is ignoring the construction that is going on in Texas as we type our responses.  

Lying to me for my money?  The only money I am going to lose is the money I have tied up in my ranch land that will be taken by the highway because a state that will determine it's value, not a real estate appraiser.  Or the tolls I will have to pay in order to drive down State Highway 71 from my small town to get into Austin (yes, it is one of the planned toll roads).  Hwy. 71 is a four lane state highway that runs from I-10 on the west side of Houston to Austin.

So as I watch the bull dozers and the earth moving equipment, I will take your advise and tell myself "there is no NAFTA highway, there is no NAFTA highway, there is no NAFTA highway".  

http://www.corridorwatch.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, I said in my initial post that I am not a &#8220;grassy knoll&#8221; person.  I don&#8217;t know how much clearer I can make that.  But to say there is no NAFTA highway is hiding your head in the sand.  What do you think the TransTexas Corridor is with football field wide highways, lanes for light rail, pipe lines, utilities and specialist truck lanes?  To say that it is not to facilitate NAFTA is ignoring the construction that is going on in Texas as we type our responses.  </p>
<p>Lying to me for my money?  The only money I am going to lose is the money I have tied up in my ranch land that will be taken by the highway because a state that will determine it&#8217;s value, not a real estate appraiser.  Or the tolls I will have to pay in order to drive down State Highway 71 from my small town to get into Austin (yes, it is one of the planned toll roads).  Hwy. 71 is a four lane state highway that runs from I-10 on the west side of Houston to Austin.</p>
<p>So as I watch the bull dozers and the earth moving equipment, I will take your advise and tell myself &#8220;there is no NAFTA highway, there is no NAFTA highway, there is no NAFTA highway&#8221;.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.corridorwatch.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.corridorwatch.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 00:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully we can find some point of common agreement.

1. Bird Flu is bad.
2. More trade is good.
3. Jihad against the US is bad.

These are the main issues of the SPP. To help in coordinating government efforts in case of avian flu. To make trade with our 3 countries easier for other countries (literally an extension of Reagan's philosophy that "a rising tide lifts all boats" to our nation's neighbors).

The CFR wrote that more trade could be made possible if trade tariffs could be made uniform amongst the 3 countries.

There is no NAU. There is no NAFTA superhighway. There is no treaty. The under secretary of the Commerce Dept. said on Friday that this is all garbage (he was taking calls on the air for an hour on Medved's radio show). Foxnews just mentioned that the administration refers to the idea of NAU as "silly".

Retire05 you seem to be a rational person. People are lying to you for your money. People are lying to you for political influence. The rest of us Right Wing Nut Jobs need you. There are real problems in this world. Do not let your voice be lost to this insane conspiracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully we can find some point of common agreement.</p>
<p>1. Bird Flu is bad.<br />
2. More trade is good.<br />
3. Jihad against the US is bad.</p>
<p>These are the main issues of the SPP. To help in coordinating government efforts in case of avian flu. To make trade with our 3 countries easier for other countries (literally an extension of Reagan&#8217;s philosophy that &#8220;a rising tide lifts all boats&#8221; to our nation&#8217;s neighbors).</p>
<p>The CFR wrote that more trade could be made possible if trade tariffs could be made uniform amongst the 3 countries.</p>
<p>There is no NAU. There is no NAFTA superhighway. There is no treaty. The under secretary of the Commerce Dept. said on Friday that this is all garbage (he was taking calls on the air for an hour on Medved&#8217;s radio show). Foxnews just mentioned that the administration refers to the idea of NAU as &#8220;silly&#8221;.</p>
<p>Retire05 you seem to be a rational person. People are lying to you for your money. People are lying to you for political influence. The rest of us Right Wing Nut Jobs need you. There are real problems in this world. Do not let your voice be lost to this insane conspiracy.</p>
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		<title>By: retire05</title>
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		<dc:creator>retire05</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank Martin, thanks for such a nice post.  And what can we attest your total lack of gentility to?  Breeding?  Or have you taken up the hobby of insulting people who whom your disagree?

I have been to Canada (was not impressed) thank you and even to Mexico (was less impressed).

If you are representative of either California or Canada, perhaps we should give California to Canada and be done with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank Martin, thanks for such a nice post.  And what can we attest your total lack of gentility to?  Breeding?  Or have you taken up the hobby of insulting people who whom your disagree?</p>
<p>I have been to Canada (was not impressed) thank you and even to Mexico (was less impressed).</p>
<p>If you are representative of either California or Canada, perhaps we should give California to Canada and be done with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>grow up, get out more, visit canada,  visit mexico. Thanks to the evil international highways that already exist, you can drive over there all by yourself. Heck you can even drive french speaking quebec. (Zut allours!)

Go find a hobby, take up competitive whittling but for gods sake get off the crackpipe of half assed and fundamentally stupid conspiracy theories. 

There are real things to strike out against, this is not one of them. There is just no "there" there. 

Its just not good for you to obsess on such pure old fashioned horseshit, old man...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>grow up, get out more, visit canada,  visit mexico. Thanks to the evil international highways that already exist, you can drive over there all by yourself. Heck you can even drive french speaking quebec. (Zut allours!)</p>
<p>Go find a hobby, take up competitive whittling but for gods sake get off the crackpipe of half assed and fundamentally stupid conspiracy theories. </p>
<p>There are real things to strike out against, this is not one of them. There is just no &#8220;there&#8221; there. </p>
<p>Its just not good for you to obsess on such pure old fashioned horseshit, old man&#8230;</p>
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