Comments on: LAYING IT IN ON THE LINE FOR PEACE http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/09/16/laying-it-in-on-the-line-for-peace/ Politics served up with a smile... And a stilletto. Wed, 22 Apr 2026 21:34:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: busboy33 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/09/16/laying-it-in-on-the-line-for-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-928484 busboy33 Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:17:16 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/09/16/laying-it-in-on-the-line-for-peace/#comment-928484 #Chip: Maby you missed in #16, where I said pretty clearly I agree that the "chickenhawk" argument is foolish: "I agree both sides of the “chicken” argument make fools of themselves. No doubt in my mind" At least, that was my intent. If it didn't come thru that I don't believe the argument, from either side, then I failed to convey my thoughts clearly. Mr. Moran is using the argument to attack Leftie talking heads for, essentially, being punks. Talking a good game, but not putting their keisters on the line when it counts and all that: "The fact is, those who are truly dedicated to peace and prove it by their actions make pretenders like Greenwald et al look like the cowardly wretches they truly are" "The left will no more fight for peace than they will fight for anything else important. Their “fighting” consists solely of lecturing the rest of us on how we should obey their petulant demands because of their moral superiority." And so forth. Again, in my opinion the argument is baseless, but if Mr. Moran truly believes it (as implied by the post), then he presumably would apply it to Rightie "all talk and no action" people as well. Yet he doesn't. That is either hypocricy, foolishness, or a deliberate attempt to use a false argument to smear an opponent. Unfortunately, I don't think he's either a hypicrite or a fool. #Chip:

Maby you missed in #16, where I said pretty clearly I agree that the “chickenhawk” argument is foolish:

“I agree both sides of the “chicken” argument make fools of themselves. No doubt in my mind”

At least, that was my intent. If it didn’t come thru that I don’t believe the argument, from either side, then I failed to convey my thoughts clearly.
Mr. Moran is using the argument to attack Leftie talking heads for, essentially, being punks. Talking a good game, but not putting their keisters on the line when it counts and all that:

“The fact is, those who are truly dedicated to peace and prove it by their actions make pretenders like Greenwald et al look like the cowardly wretches they truly are”

“The left will no more fight for peace than they will fight for anything else important. Their “fighting” consists solely of lecturing the rest of us on how we should obey their petulant demands because of their moral superiority.”

And so forth. Again, in my opinion the argument is baseless, but if Mr. Moran truly believes it (as implied by the post), then he presumably would apply it to Rightie “all talk and no action” people as well. Yet he doesn’t. That is either hypocricy, foolishness, or a deliberate attempt to use a false argument to smear an opponent. Unfortunately, I don’t think he’s either a hypicrite or a fool.

]]> By: Chip http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/09/16/laying-it-in-on-the-line-for-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-926957 Chip Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:16:58 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/09/16/laying-it-in-on-the-line-for-peace/#comment-926957 #22 Your rebuttal presumes the "chickenhawk" argument is logical to begin with, which it is not, as <a href="http://www.slate.com/?id=2073772" rel="nofollow">articulated quite nicely</a> by Christopher Hitchens several years ago. #22

Your rebuttal presumes the “chickenhawk” argument is logical to begin with, which it is not, as articulated quite nicely by Christopher Hitchens several years ago.

]]> By: busboy33 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/09/16/laying-it-in-on-the-line-for-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-926626 busboy33 Mon, 17 Sep 2007 17:32:15 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/09/16/laying-it-in-on-the-line-for-peace/#comment-926626 #20 Attacking the argument does not expose hypocricy. Defending one side for using the argument while attacking the other side for using the same argument is hypocricy. #20

Attacking the argument does not expose hypocricy. Defending one side for using the argument while attacking the other side for using the same argument is hypocricy.

]]> By: Silvio Canto, Jr. http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/09/16/laying-it-in-on-the-line-for-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-926190 Silvio Canto, Jr. Mon, 17 Sep 2007 13:51:06 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/09/16/laying-it-in-on-the-line-for-peace/#comment-926190 The American left has been on dope since the 1960s. We saw more evidence of that over the weekend. The American left has been on dope since the 1960s. We saw more evidence of that over the weekend.

]]> By: Chip http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/09/16/laying-it-in-on-the-line-for-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-926079 Chip Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:53:39 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/09/16/laying-it-in-on-the-line-for-peace/#comment-926079 #14 More evidence that logic and reason are not your forte. Exposing the hypocrisy of those advancing the fallacious "chickenhawk" smear in no way supports their argument. #14

More evidence that logic and reason are not your forte. Exposing the hypocrisy of those advancing the fallacious “chickenhawk” smear in no way supports their argument.

]]> By: Chip http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/09/16/laying-it-in-on-the-line-for-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-926066 Chip Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:47:25 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/09/16/laying-it-in-on-the-line-for-peace/#comment-926066 #17 <a href="http://stinkyluvin.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Lots of little words from the small mind of an ill-mannered dolt</a>. Gutless wonders like yourself were probably so absorbed with your own perceived moral superiority to realize that <a>military men critical of Rumsfeld</a> were telegraphing a plea for more enlistments <b>AND</b> not only talking to Bush supporters. #17

Lots of little words from the small mind of an ill-mannered dolt.

Gutless wonders like yourself were probably so absorbed with your own perceived moral superiority to realize that military men critical of Rumsfeld were telegraphing a plea for more enlistments AND not only talking to Bush supporters.

]]> By: disunreconnected http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/09/16/laying-it-in-on-the-line-for-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-925015 disunreconnected Mon, 17 Sep 2007 02:13:02 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/09/16/laying-it-in-on-the-line-for-peace/#comment-925015 Long time reader of your posts, Rick. This one rings true, as many other do. Hang tough in the face of the nay-sayers. Long time reader of your posts, Rick.
This one rings true, as many other do.
Hang tough in the face of the nay-sayers.

]]> By: KEvron http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/09/16/laying-it-in-on-the-line-for-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-924914 KEvron Mon, 17 Sep 2007 01:16:46 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/09/16/laying-it-in-on-the-line-for-peace/#comment-924914 <i>"In short, put up or shut up."</i> big words from a chickenhawk.... KEvron “In short, put up or shut up.”

big words from a chickenhawk….

KEvron

]]> By: busboy33 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/09/16/laying-it-in-on-the-line-for-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-924737 busboy33 Mon, 17 Sep 2007 00:03:00 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/09/16/laying-it-in-on-the-line-for-peace/#comment-924737 @Davebo: I wouldn't come to this site if Mr. Moran didn't impress me, even if I disagree with his positions most of the time. I agree both sides of the "chicken" argument make fools of themselves. No doubt in my mind. Was it 100k at the rally, or 10k? I had thought it was 10k, but I could be wrong. I support the protesters firmly (when there's a rally around me I go whenever I can). Didn't intend to sound harsh. Its just that the post didn't attack the hypocritical argument, it attacked the Left. Now, granted, this is the RightWingNutHouse, so mabye I was expecting too much, but I was hoping for more "tough decisions require followthru and personal sacrifice" rather than "this is why the Left are punks." @Davebo:
I wouldn’t come to this site if Mr. Moran didn’t impress me, even if I disagree with his positions most of the time.
I agree both sides of the “chicken” argument make fools of themselves. No doubt in my mind.
Was it 100k at the rally, or 10k? I had thought it was 10k, but I could be wrong.
I support the protesters firmly (when there’s a rally around me I go whenever I can).
Didn’t intend to sound harsh. Its just that the post didn’t attack the hypocritical argument, it attacked the Left. Now, granted, this is the RightWingNutHouse, so mabye I was expecting too much, but I was hoping for more “tough decisions require followthru and personal sacrifice” rather than “this is why the Left are punks.”

]]> By: Davebo http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/09/16/laying-it-in-on-the-line-for-peace/comment-page-1/#comment-924569 Davebo Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:36:33 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/09/16/laying-it-in-on-the-line-for-peace/#comment-924569 busboy, you're being a bit unfair I think. Both "chicken" arguments are silly. Our President didn't tell us we should go to war. He told us he should go to the Mall. There is no draft. Considering that, 100k in DC is pretty incredible. I have a grudging respect for Rick. And this post is certainly not his best work. But he's getting there. It's apparantly a painful transition. busboy, you’re being a bit unfair I think.

Both “chicken” arguments are silly.

Our President didn’t tell us we should go to war. He told us he should go to the Mall.

There is no draft. Considering that, 100k in DC is pretty incredible.

I have a grudging respect for Rick. And this post is certainly not his best work. But he’s getting there. It’s apparantly a painful transition.

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