Hillary Clinton touring a Las Vegas neighborhood yesterday:
Clinton said unscrupulous lending leads to bad mortgages, which lead to foreclosures, which lead to people with nowhere to go and vacant neighborhoods that can go rapidly downhill.
First of all, what’s wrong with this picture?
We have the evil lender.
We have the heartless bank.
We have “bad mortgages.”
Which lead to heartless capitalists foreclosing on the poor, unsuspecting homeowners.
There’s something missing in all of that and I will bet you only a conservative could find it.
(Answer below the fold)
HOW ABOUT THE IDIOT CONSUMER WHO TOOK A “TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE” LOAN IN THE FIRST PLACE!
“Unscrupulous” lending? I hardly think any loan officer or mortgage salesman has to pull any kind of trickery on someone looking to buy a home in the “sub prime” market. The very definition of sub prime customers are people who are high risk in the first place. These are people who “want” a home. I am very happy for them. I want a 750 foot yacht but that doesn’t mean I can afford one or that any bank or lending institution in their right mind would loan me the money to buy one.
The basis of the sub-prime crisis is stupidity and irresponsibility – both on the part of the lender and the customer. The lenders believed the housing boom would go on forever, that the price of homes would continue to rise in a fluid market thus giving their sub prime customers who had no business getting a loan in the first place the opportunity to sell their home and move in 4 or 5 years, avoiding the ballooning payments and interest rates.
But something happened on the way to paradise – the inexorable law of supply and demand took over and builders – who were building homes as fast they could throw them up – suddenly looked up and realized they had a slew of empty houses with no customers filling them. The rapid rise in home prices not only enticed builders to build more but the existing home market quickly became saturated with all of these sub prime customers trying to unload their houses before midnight struck and their mortgages turned into a pumpkin.
Conservatives believe in personal responsibility – and that not only includes the homeowners who erred in taking the loans but in the financial institutions that made the loans in the first place. Bailing out businesses that make bad decisions is contrary to the ideals of a free market and only encourages continued bad decision making.
The market should not have a “safety net” where if your company is big enough or has enough political pull, the government will step in and save you from your folly. That way, you make government a partner in the business. That might be alright for Communist China but it shouldn’t be done here.
Taxpayers should not be paying for other people’s mistakes at the personal or corporate level. Most taxpayers I know – myself included – have their own problems and don’t need to be burdened with the consequences of stupidity, greed, and bad judgement exhibited by other individuals or businesses.
And if this ends up hurting the economy – which it will – then perhaps a valuable lesson will have been learned and probity, caution, and responsible lending practices will be rewarded instead of devalued by bailing out those companies who don’t deserve it.
And the people whose homes are foreclosed? Yes it’s sad when someone loses their home. To say that I don’t feel sympathy for families who have made terrible decisions and are forced out of their house would be wrong. And for those who have no where else to go, the government should do its job and lay out a safety net for them.
But most people who are being foreclosed on have jobs and are perfectly able to find another place to live. They probably won’t own the house or apartment but they won’t starve nor will they be thrown out on the street. Do these people really need the government’s help? Democrats think so. Democrats want to reward the irresponsible regardless of their financial situation. Democrats want to give out taxpayer money so that even those who are capable of taking care of themselves will have their mistakes forgiven – thanks to our generosity.
It is not social Darwinism to demand individual responsibility from citizens. Without it, we become nothing more than slaves to the government, dependent on Big Brother to think for us, to make decisions for us – decisions we used to make ourselves. And every time we surrender that decision making and every time we allow the government to step in – even it it is to save us from being hoisted on our own petard – we lose a little freedom. This is the trade off we make – a fact the liberals desperately try to hide from people lest they rebel against their slavemasters and take back their own lives.
But liberals needn’t worry too much. It appears from where I’m sitting that the American people are completely willing to sell their birthright of liberty for the ease and comfort of government serfdom. The liberals have trained us monkeys very well. Vote for them and out pops a banana treat. No need to take responsibility for your own life. Not when there are so many in government eager to run it for you.
UPDATE
Not unexpectedly, Malkin reports that Obama jumps on the bailout bandwagon with both feet:
“We’re going to put money in the pockets of hardworking Americans who deserve it. That’s what I’m fighting for,†Obama told hotel and restaurant workers packed into the steamy union hall of the Culinary Workers Union, Local 226. The Illinois senator said he identified with their economic hardships.
O Gawd! Another Democrat who feels our pain. If I were you, I’d keep a tight grip on my wallet when the Dems come to town.
Michelle asks the same questions I do:
How about identifying with responsible homeowners and responsible taxpayers who’ll be paying for all this election-year largesse–much of it not to Americans “who deserve it,†but to people who shouldn’t have been taking out home loans they couldn’t pay for and mortgage companies that shouldn’t have taken them on as customers?How about them?
The Republicans are no better:
“There’s clearly an additional need to consider other measures,†Mr. McCain said Wednesday. “I will know within a very short period of time whether these policies are succeeding or not,†he said of Mr. Paulson’s plan to persuade lenders voluntarily to modify some troubled mortgages. Mr. Romney has called for the creation of a business cooperative that would pool the bad loans in one entity that would then be able to handle individual solutions with homeowners. Romney’s aides also say he favors increased funding for a government chartered housing-services agency called NeighborWorks America.
Of course, the outgrowth of all of this will be more regulation, more red tape. If the government would only step back and let the market do its job, that wouldn’t be necessary. Those companies engaged in this tomfoolery would suffer the ultimate judgement of the free market while those who followed established, safe, and responsible lending practices would be rewarded appropriately by seeing their bottom line unaffected.
Instead, the burden will now also fall on those responsible companies who are suffering a liquidity crisis along with the rest of the financial industry. And the sad fact is, the big security companies who used these mortgages in high risk mortgage funds knew that the piper would have to be paid eventually but probably didn’t care because they figured the government would bail them out if worse came to worse.
It was Joseph Kennedy who was one of the first of the mega rich to see what the New Deal meant to capitalism – from that point on, government would have a huge say in the market and that those who controlled government would have more power than any of the robber baron capitalists who ever ran roughshod over Wall Street. That’s why he pushed his sons toward a political career, thinking that government interference in the market would only grow over time.
Kennedy, one of the shrewdest operators ever to prowl Wall Street, was right. He foresaw a time when government would see itself as the final arbiter in the market rather than market forces themselves. And with Democrats in the lead, that vision continues to skew the market in ways that we will rue before too long.
10:08 pm
I agree with you Rick about the Democrats, but don’t forget that our “compassionate conservative” president sounds a lot like Hillary Clinton on this whole mess.
12:39 am
“And if this ends up hurting the economy – which it will – then perhaps a valuable lesson will have been learned and probity, caution, and responsible lending practices will be rewarded instead of devalued by bailing out those companies who don’t deserve it.”
The S&L crisis of the 80’s should have taught the same lesson. Free market must be a slow learner.
12:48 am
Don’t forget that before the Dems complained about “predatory lenders” who take advantage of the poor people by loaning them money the Dems complained about the evil RED-LINING bankers who refused to loan money to poor people.
4:29 am
“It appears from where I’m sitting that the American people are completely willing to sell their birthright of liberty for the ease and comfort of government serfdom. The liberals have trained us monkeys very well. Vote for them and out pops a banana treat. No need to take responsibility for your own life. Not when there are so many in government eager to run it for you.”
Out of interest, could you show me which of the Republican candidates (not to mention current president) advocate leaving the subprime mess to work itself out on its own?
Apart from Ron Paul, of course.
I agree with you in the main, and don’t fancy my taxes going to bail out people who made bad decisions that I deliberately avoided. However, when looking for whose fault the whole thing is it is worth remembering that the customers are basically uneducated herd-followers, while the lenders are running according to practices derived from trained and experienced economists. One side knew what it was doing and didn’t care, the other side should have known what it was doing but didn’t.
1:20 pm
Didn’t the sub-prime mess come about because the government demanded that everyone be offer a mortgage, regardless of how nutty is was?
The folks who signed up for untenable loans and those who made them, should feel the pain of the collapse.
Additional government meddling, already shown to be a problem, will not make this mess better. At best is will “spread the pain” screwing people who had nothing to do with it and probably “kick down the road” a great deal of the coast, which will spread the pain to taxpayers not yet born.
12:10 am
Free markets and personal responsibility are definitely lofty, conservative ideals to which I adhere. However, none of us live in a vacuum. Those who work hard, save what we can, buy what we can afford are unfotuanately very much affected by the actions of the greedy bankers, rapicious builders, and stupid sub-prime borrowers. Certainly they will suffer. But if the economy tanks as a result of their actions, all of us will suffer. No one said “Life was fair”...they do say capitalism is amoral though. Isn’t this a perfect example of why we have government (and pay dearly for it)? Our great leaders are supposed to find a way in times like these to ameliorate the pain felt by us all. What would be wrong with that?
10:51 am
Kennedy, one of the shrewdest operators ever to prowl Wall Street, was right. He foresaw a time when government would see itself as the final arbiter in the market rather than market forces themselves. Hey, it worked in East Berlin- all you had to do was glance over the Wall and see its beautiful, bright skyline. I’m kidding.
2:36 pm
The problem with expecting the government to ameliorate our pain, is where does it stop? Suppose I’m in pain because I don’t have a newer car. Aren’t I entitled to a better ride, or a more efficient one? Suppose I’m in pain because I spend more money than I take in. Aren’t I entitled to a more expansive lifestyle? Where do you think this sense of entitlement comes from? If people know that the government will bail them out when they make risky, stupid, or short-sighted decisions, then expect them to make more of them.
9:39 am
The problem is not with unscrupulous lenders or stupid borrowers (though those certainly are problems). The problem is also not with honest, well meaning lenders and borrowers who were duped by the counterparty (duped, or overly-willing). The problem is with what Friedman calls “the neighborhood affect,” which is literally the problem here. Neighbors of these forclosures have done nothing to warrant some of the havaoc being played out in their neighborhoods. Read the Atlantic this month, or yesterday’s NYT. Foreclosures are not simple—they take forever, emotions run high, and sometimes people vandalize the property on their way out. Or they simply just walk away, leaving an unattended house that becomes an eyesore. And that hurts people who are not involved in the problem. I don’t know what the solution is, and I realize we don’t want to encourage crazy lending or borrowing, but there must be some solution that banks willingly (mostly) can take that helps those people at the margin, not those way past the margin. And for banks, it’s enlightened self interest: it’s bad enough they made stupid mortgages; they don’t want to become landlords of houses that lose value by the day.
9:43 am
So you’re saying that the real problem is in the falling value of housing and not the loans themselves?
Not much anyone can do about that except, as you say, if banks take it upon themselves to try and work with the delinquents a little longer.