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		<title>By: Weasel Whacked &#171; Bookworm Room</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weasel Whacked &#171; Bookworm Room</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On the Council side, first place went to Done With Mirrors for Liberal Fascism. In it, Callimachus basically said that he doesn&#8217;t like Jonah Goldberg&#8217;s book, and then he goes on to rip-roaring discussion about fascism. Since you all know that I really loved Goldberg&#8217;s book, I didn&#8217;t vote for that post, even though I have to admit that it&#8217;s a really good one. Such is the problem of voting with emotions, not intellect (liberals, take heed). There was a seven way tie for second place, with the Watcher breaking the tie and awarding official second place rank to Right Wing Nut House for Grim Choices Confront GOP &#8212; a premise and a post with which I entirely agree. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] On the Council side, first place went to Done With Mirrors for Liberal Fascism. In it, Callimachus basically said that he doesn&#8217;t like Jonah Goldberg&#8217;s book, and then he goes on to rip-roaring discussion about fascism. Since you all know that I really loved Goldberg&#8217;s book, I didn&#8217;t vote for that post, even though I have to admit that it&#8217;s a really good one. Such is the problem of voting with emotions, not intellect (liberals, take heed). There was a seven way tie for second place, with the Watcher breaking the tie and awarding official second place rank to Right Wing Nut House for Grim Choices Confront GOP &#8212; a premise and a post with which I entirely agree. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: El Jefe Maximo</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Jefe Maximo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I hear the talk of RINOS and staying home, I think of all the British Tories all those years ago, who were unhappy with John Major because he wasn't Margaret Thatcher.

After years of Cool Britannia, Tony Blair and Gordon Brown, and a country changed beyond recognition, I wonder how they feel now ? 

I don't necessarily like the choices either, but the election's going forward anyway. To my way of thinking, President McCain is much, much, much preferable to President Hillary or President Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I hear the talk of RINOS and staying home, I think of all the British Tories all those years ago, who were unhappy with John Major because he wasn&#8217;t Margaret Thatcher.</p>
<p>After years of Cool Britannia, Tony Blair and Gordon Brown, and a country changed beyond recognition, I wonder how they feel now ? </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t necessarily like the choices either, but the election&#8217;s going forward anyway. To my way of thinking, President McCain is much, much, much preferable to President Hillary or President Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: Bart Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bart Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When one of the RINOS are nominated &#38; become the Republican nominee ,I agree that we should not vote for a democrat, why perpetuate their unacceptable policies. Voting for a third party candidate is a better option but not adequate either. That being said;

Use the wright in option on the ballot. Write your own name in for president; this will send a clear message to the Republican Party's Leadership, that they are totally out of step with conservative Goals &#38; purpose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When one of the RINOS are nominated &amp; become the Republican nominee ,I agree that we should not vote for a democrat, why perpetuate their unacceptable policies. Voting for a third party candidate is a better option but not adequate either. That being said;</p>
<p>Use the wright in option on the ballot. Write your own name in for president; this will send a clear message to the Republican Party&#8217;s Leadership, that they are totally out of step with conservative Goals &amp; purpose.</p>
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		<title>By: retire05</title>
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		<dc:creator>retire05</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there really any difference between left wingers just because of the letter behind their name?  The true answer is "no".

John McCain will not be much different than his Democrat counterparts.  What will be different is the reaction of the Republicans in the House and Senate.  If a Democrat is elected, it will be acceptable for Republicans to try to block and fight what socialist program a Democrat POTUS is trying to foist on us.  Under McCain, true conservatives will become the mavericks and will be considered traitors to their party.

Like the Democrat candidates, no one is looking at McCain's record and how he has twarted his own party, and their agenda, time after time.  He is another "reporting for duty" candidate who is now claiming credit for the surge.  Sorry, that dog won't hunt.

If left of center independents are the ones voting for McCain, what does that tell you?  McCain is not carrying the vote of true conservatives.  Those of us who buy into the platform of the Republican party are not behind McCain.

But the media is.  We are being told to suck it up and just accept a man who considers John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, Russ Feingold, Mel Martinez and other liberals as his friends.  He stands on the podium with Lindsey "we will tell the racists to shut up" Graham and I would go so far as to say that there is a good chance McCain will pick Graham as his running mate.  So much for our borders.  Odd that the McCain campaign told Martinez to stay at home while he was in Florida.  Simply, McCain has to run from his record while he is in a state that is severly affected by illegal immigration.

So go ahead and vote for McCain if he is the GOP nominee.  But don't whine to us true conservatives when he gives you a government that is more oppressive than you could have ever dreamed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there really any difference between left wingers just because of the letter behind their name?  The true answer is &#8220;no&#8221;.</p>
<p>John McCain will not be much different than his Democrat counterparts.  What will be different is the reaction of the Republicans in the House and Senate.  If a Democrat is elected, it will be acceptable for Republicans to try to block and fight what socialist program a Democrat POTUS is trying to foist on us.  Under McCain, true conservatives will become the mavericks and will be considered traitors to their party.</p>
<p>Like the Democrat candidates, no one is looking at McCain&#8217;s record and how he has twarted his own party, and their agenda, time after time.  He is another &#8220;reporting for duty&#8221; candidate who is now claiming credit for the surge.  Sorry, that dog won&#8217;t hunt.</p>
<p>If left of center independents are the ones voting for McCain, what does that tell you?  McCain is not carrying the vote of true conservatives.  Those of us who buy into the platform of the Republican party are not behind McCain.</p>
<p>But the media is.  We are being told to suck it up and just accept a man who considers John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, Russ Feingold, Mel Martinez and other liberals as his friends.  He stands on the podium with Lindsey &#8220;we will tell the racists to shut up&#8221; Graham and I would go so far as to say that there is a good chance McCain will pick Graham as his running mate.  So much for our borders.  Odd that the McCain campaign told Martinez to stay at home while he was in Florida.  Simply, McCain has to run from his record while he is in a state that is severly affected by illegal immigration.</p>
<p>So go ahead and vote for McCain if he is the GOP nominee.  But don&#8217;t whine to us true conservatives when he gives you a government that is more oppressive than you could have ever dreamed.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikolay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nikolay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;soviets did not sacrifice any of their own blood for freedom. They kept all the land they took from the Nazis. They are also responsible for the very existence of North Korea. A gift that keeps in giving.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Thompson was speaking about the personal sacrifices. There's a difference between country's politics and that. Most of the Russian anti-Stalinists were still supporting the fight against Hitler. I have a number of relatives that did wonders of heroism in that war, and they were totally anti-soviet people. If you claim that their sacrifices did nothing for the cause of freedom, you piss on their graves. 
&lt;blockquote&gt;Um. Britain, France, Yugoslavia and USSR were in it for survival at the most basic, civilian by civilian level. Bit of a difference there.&lt;/blockquote&gt;And USA didn't enter the war until the attack on Pearl Harbor. Which was more than 2 years after invasion of Poland, and more than a year after the bombing of London began. 
Guys, seriously, do you really believe that the claim that "USA shed more blood for the cause of freedom than all the other countries combined" is anything but the ignorant and offensive BS?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>soviets did not sacrifice any of their own blood for freedom. They kept all the land they took from the Nazis. They are also responsible for the very existence of North Korea. A gift that keeps in giving.</p></blockquote>
<p>Thompson was speaking about the personal sacrifices. There&#8217;s a difference between country&#8217;s politics and that. Most of the Russian anti-Stalinists were still supporting the fight against Hitler. I have a number of relatives that did wonders of heroism in that war, and they were totally anti-soviet people. If you claim that their sacrifices did nothing for the cause of freedom, you piss on their graves. </p>
<blockquote><p>Um. Britain, France, Yugoslavia and USSR were in it for survival at the most basic, civilian by civilian level. Bit of a difference there.</p></blockquote>
<p>And USA didn&#8217;t enter the war until the attack on Pearl Harbor. Which was more than 2 years after invasion of Poland, and more than a year after the bombing of London began.<br />
Guys, seriously, do you really believe that the claim that &#8220;USA shed more blood for the cause of freedom than all the other countries combined&#8221; is anything but the ignorant and offensive BS?</p>
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		<title>By: syn</title>
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		<dc:creator>syn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Conservatives seem to want respect but refuse to extend it"

This is a primary race, was not aware that Moderates/Independents represented the base of the Republican Party. Secondly, it hard to make such claim when practically everyone is telling Conservatives to just shut up and nominate McCain because he has moderate/independent voters.


If the race is all about 'gaining moderates and independent voters' why then do not moderate/independent voters run a candidate who can get the Conservative vote?

How will Moderates/Independents persuade me to choose between a McCain and an Obama?

Like what happened under four years of Jimmy Carter, America will indeed wake-up when their lives are directly affected by the policies they demanded, right now things are too good; give it four years under a high Misery Index and real change will occur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Conservatives seem to want respect but refuse to extend it&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a primary race, was not aware that Moderates/Independents represented the base of the Republican Party. Secondly, it hard to make such claim when practically everyone is telling Conservatives to just shut up and nominate McCain because he has moderate/independent voters.</p>
<p>If the race is all about &#8216;gaining moderates and independent voters&#8217; why then do not moderate/independent voters run a candidate who can get the Conservative vote?</p>
<p>How will Moderates/Independents persuade me to choose between a McCain and an Obama?</p>
<p>Like what happened under four years of Jimmy Carter, America will indeed wake-up when their lives are directly affected by the policies they demanded, right now things are too good; give it four years under a high Misery Index and real change will occur.</p>
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		<title>By: Neoconnews.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neoconnews.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 07:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is a huge mistake to fall into the comforting trap that 'democrats will be blamed for the failures of the country while they are at the helm'. The Democrats control the Congress right now. Do you see them shouldering their share of the blame from their constituents? Of course not, whatever the problem- it's still all Dubya's fault.

When a Democrat is President, they will use the bully pulpit, something that Bush has rarely done (and done poorly when he tried to). Billy boy used it all the time and his wife will ride all over that thing. Things aren't going to get better by handing the reigns over to the Democrats. Conservatives will remain the specter. They will still blame us.

The true damage will take a lot longer to surface than the end of Hillary or Obama's first term. The damage will be deep and it will grow. I can't say if I'll be able to stomach voting for Straight Talk or not, it's not an enticing prospect, but let there be no confusion: America isn't going to 'wake up' under the command of Hillary or Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is a huge mistake to fall into the comforting trap that &#8216;democrats will be blamed for the failures of the country while they are at the helm&#8217;. The Democrats control the Congress right now. Do you see them shouldering their share of the blame from their constituents? Of course not, whatever the problem- it&#8217;s still all Dubya&#8217;s fault.</p>
<p>When a Democrat is President, they will use the bully pulpit, something that Bush has rarely done (and done poorly when he tried to). Billy boy used it all the time and his wife will ride all over that thing. Things aren&#8217;t going to get better by handing the reigns over to the Democrats. Conservatives will remain the specter. They will still blame us.</p>
<p>The true damage will take a lot longer to surface than the end of Hillary or Obama&#8217;s first term. The damage will be deep and it will grow. I can&#8217;t say if I&#8217;ll be able to stomach voting for Straight Talk or not, it&#8217;s not an enticing prospect, but let there be no confusion: America isn&#8217;t going to &#8216;wake up&#8217; under the command of Hillary or Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: Grim Choices Confront GOP at Simply Kimberly &#124; Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grim Choices Confront GOP at Simply Kimberly &#124; Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 06:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Grim Choices Confront GOP   Published  on 22 Jan 2008   in notable.        Rick Moran @ Right Wing Nut House: The GOP is a broken party. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Grim Choices Confront GOP   Published  on 22 Jan 2008   in notable.        Rick Moran @ Right Wing Nut House: The GOP is a broken party. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Allahpunditredux</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allahpunditredux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 04:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't want to be overly snarky but why don't conservatives just take a hike and promote Limbaugh as their standard bearer - at least they could finally be standing on principle rather than the bullying tactics they have used on moderates.

Conservatives seem to want respect but refuse to extend it. Of course this doesn't characterize all conservatives but a great many of the more vocal ones come across this way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want to be overly snarky but why don&#8217;t conservatives just take a hike and promote Limbaugh as their standard bearer - at least they could finally be standing on principle rather than the bullying tactics they have used on moderates.</p>
<p>Conservatives seem to want respect but refuse to extend it. Of course this doesn&#8217;t characterize all conservatives but a great many of the more vocal ones come across this way.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Mustang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy Mustang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 03:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Screw You Guys, I'm Going Home crowd is becoming tiresome.    You guys are bigger RINOs than McCain will ever be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Screw You Guys, I&#8217;m Going Home crowd is becoming tiresome.    You guys are bigger RINOs than McCain will ever be.</p>
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