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		<title>By: M. Collins</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 07:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im skinny. I always have been. Its just who I am. Im fairly active but that has nothing to do with it. At times in my life Ive tried hard to bulk up without much sucess. Im whats called a hard gainer. Short of using roids I'll probably always be slim. Im a guy by the way. In fact and no offense, Im usually not physically attracted to the bigger girls, but that is me and I know I couldn't possibly speak for everyone. But to demonize someone because they're overweight is phucking insane and pisses me off. Too many people nowadays know whats best for everyone else. I don't like it when I hear people bad mouthing people who are "fat". If its someone I know I can almost always cite someone they're close to such as a girlfriend, friend, or family member whose weight isn't "ideal and perfect" and it quickly shuts their dumb mouths and sends them stumbling and stuttering for words to recover from their ignorant statements. Some people really just can't help it. Sure some people probably could slim down easier than others. But to look at someone all but a few seconds and know their life story and what they "should" be doing pisses me off to no end. Im skinny and I'll stand by all my fat friends and fellow fat humans to the deathly end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im skinny. I always have been. Its just who I am. Im fairly active but that has nothing to do with it. At times in my life Ive tried hard to bulk up without much sucess. Im whats called a hard gainer. Short of using roids I&#8217;ll probably always be slim. Im a guy by the way. In fact and no offense, Im usually not physically attracted to the bigger girls, but that is me and I know I couldn&#8217;t possibly speak for everyone. But to demonize someone because they&#8217;re overweight is phucking insane and pisses me off. Too many people nowadays know whats best for everyone else. I don&#8217;t like it when I hear people bad mouthing people who are &#8220;fat&#8221;. If its someone I know I can almost always cite someone they&#8217;re close to such as a girlfriend, friend, or family member whose weight isn&#8217;t &#8220;ideal and perfect&#8221; and it quickly shuts their dumb mouths and sends them stumbling and stuttering for words to recover from their ignorant statements. Some people really just can&#8217;t help it. Sure some people probably could slim down easier than others. But to look at someone all but a few seconds and know their life story and what they &#8220;should&#8221; be doing pisses me off to no end. Im skinny and I&#8217;ll stand by all my fat friends and fellow fat humans to the deathly end.</p>
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		<title>By: Willow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Willow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 09:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obesity is not caused by overeating. It is caused by fluid retention in people who are sensitive to salt. Dieting is unnecessary and harmful. It is easy to lose weight safely and speedily by drastically cutting down on salt/sodium. Go on! - Try it!

Most obese people lose about 14 pounds in  the first month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obesity is not caused by overeating. It is caused by fluid retention in people who are sensitive to salt. Dieting is unnecessary and harmful. It is easy to lose weight safely and speedily by drastically cutting down on salt/sodium. Go on! - Try it!</p>
<p>Most obese people lose about 14 pounds in  the first month.</p>
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		<title>By: Gayle Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gayle Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm old enough to remember the "whites only" signs in the South and that was considered heinous!  Dems demonized Republicans over these signs, when it was Democratic governors who insisted on perpetuating segregation.

How is this any different?  I'll answer that for you - it isn't.  It is discrimination pure and simple and I'd like to know when people are going to say "enough"!?

I smoke and to be completely honest, I don't like to smoke during the day and never did, even when I could do it at my desk.  That did not keep me from bitterly resenting the sanctimonious anti-smoking campaigners - how dare ANYONE tell me how to live my life!?  This is more of the same.  I am not skinny and probably never will be.  And I'm probably 50-70 pounds above what the actuarial tables consider to be healthy.  All that being said, I'm fairly healthy, relatively health problem-free except for the residual effect (good and bad) from my years as a figure skater.  Good effect?  My physical being is pretty strong.  Bad effect?  Think about butt hitting ice repeatedly, every day, 6 days per week, 50 weeks of the year.  Any wonder I have arthritis in my spine?  

So next we need to ban figure skating!  All those orthopedic problems, don't you know!

This has just become ASININE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m old enough to remember the &#8220;whites only&#8221; signs in the South and that was considered heinous!  Dems demonized Republicans over these signs, when it was Democratic governors who insisted on perpetuating segregation.</p>
<p>How is this any different?  I&#8217;ll answer that for you - it isn&#8217;t.  It is discrimination pure and simple and I&#8217;d like to know when people are going to say &#8220;enough&#8221;!?</p>
<p>I smoke and to be completely honest, I don&#8217;t like to smoke during the day and never did, even when I could do it at my desk.  That did not keep me from bitterly resenting the sanctimonious anti-smoking campaigners - how dare ANYONE tell me how to live my life!?  This is more of the same.  I am not skinny and probably never will be.  And I&#8217;m probably 50-70 pounds above what the actuarial tables consider to be healthy.  All that being said, I&#8217;m fairly healthy, relatively health problem-free except for the residual effect (good and bad) from my years as a figure skater.  Good effect?  My physical being is pretty strong.  Bad effect?  Think about butt hitting ice repeatedly, every day, 6 days per week, 50 weeks of the year.  Any wonder I have arthritis in my spine?  </p>
<p>So next we need to ban figure skating!  All those orthopedic problems, don&#8217;t you know!</p>
<p>This has just become ASININE.</p>
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		<title>By: SGT Christopher Whitaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>SGT Christopher Whitaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is painfully obvious that, yet again, we have politicians who completely misunderstand the various health guidelines used.  BMI is only ONE tool used to determine overall health; there are a number of other tools.  I am 5'7" tall, weigh about 200lbs and if anyone calls me obese they are going to get punched in the mouth.  Anyone who works out to any significxant degree isn't going to come close to meeting their supposed "ideal" BMI.  Does that mean that Football players are now "morbidly obese?"  That will probably be news to some of them.  This is simply another typical power-grab by morons politicians and their bureaucratic minions "foro our own good."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is painfully obvious that, yet again, we have politicians who completely misunderstand the various health guidelines used.  BMI is only ONE tool used to determine overall health; there are a number of other tools.  I am 5&#8242;7&#8243; tall, weigh about 200lbs and if anyone calls me obese they are going to get punched in the mouth.  Anyone who works out to any significxant degree isn&#8217;t going to come close to meeting their supposed &#8220;ideal&#8221; BMI.  Does that mean that Football players are now &#8220;morbidly obese?&#8221;  That will probably be news to some of them.  This is simply another typical power-grab by morons politicians and their bureaucratic minions &#8220;foro our own good.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Conservative Belle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conservative Belle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What might be an interesting investigation on this topic would be to ask which of those three bill sponsors smoke.

A member of the restaurant association in MS told me that this was spiteful attempt to get back at the recent smoking bans in Mississippi cities.  IOW, 'if I can't smoke in certain places, then fat people can't eat in restaurants.'

Also of note:

Many legislators are supporting a $1.00 tax increase per pack on cigarette sales.  There is actually a billboard downtown on the approach to the MS state capitol that show these choices: 

Greedy tobacco companies or health care for children

No kidding.

Someone should ask Mayhall if there will be someone at every restaurant with a BMI scale that you must step on before you order a slice of pecan pie a la mode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What might be an interesting investigation on this topic would be to ask which of those three bill sponsors smoke.</p>
<p>A member of the restaurant association in MS told me that this was spiteful attempt to get back at the recent smoking bans in Mississippi cities.  IOW, &#8216;if I can&#8217;t smoke in certain places, then fat people can&#8217;t eat in restaurants.&#8217;</p>
<p>Also of note:</p>
<p>Many legislators are supporting a $1.00 tax increase per pack on cigarette sales.  There is actually a billboard downtown on the approach to the MS state capitol that show these choices: </p>
<p>Greedy tobacco companies or health care for children</p>
<p>No kidding.</p>
<p>Someone should ask Mayhall if there will be someone at every restaurant with a BMI scale that you must step on before you order a slice of pecan pie a la mode.</p>
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		<title>By: elisa72</title>
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		<dc:creator>elisa72</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 16:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm surprised that no one has mentioned how truly useless it is to regulate WHERE fat people can eat...while having no control whatsoever over what they eat at home.  So what's next?  Grocery stores are allowed to sell only vegetables to fat people?  Cameras installed in their kitchens to see what snack they're eating?  Or will they just make obesity a crime?  Seems that's where they are headed.

"He hopes it will 'call attention to the serious problem of obesity'"  I can't express how sick I am of the legislative process being misused to "send a message" or "call attention."  Crafting laws - even ones that have no chance of actually becoming law - is NOT the proper way to call attention to any issue, and then when you consider that some of these wacky bills actually DO become law...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised that no one has mentioned how truly useless it is to regulate WHERE fat people can eat&#8230;while having no control whatsoever over what they eat at home.  So what&#8217;s next?  Grocery stores are allowed to sell only vegetables to fat people?  Cameras installed in their kitchens to see what snack they&#8217;re eating?  Or will they just make obesity a crime?  Seems that&#8217;s where they are headed.</p>
<p>&#8220;He hopes it will &#8216;call attention to the serious problem of obesity&#8217;&#8221;  I can&#8217;t express how sick I am of the legislative process being misused to &#8220;send a message&#8221; or &#8220;call attention.&#8221;  Crafting laws - even ones that have no chance of actually becoming law - is NOT the proper way to call attention to any issue, and then when you consider that some of these wacky bills actually DO become law&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: HE HATE ME</title>
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		<dc:creator>HE HATE ME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 01:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great- just what we need some bureaucrat's arbitrary standards and gatekeeping of health resources. I don't buy into those approved tables. I'm six three and 195# and look skinny and some table says I should be #165. I was 135 in high school and looked like a concentration camp survivor. Everyone has some bad habit or another. Screw Nurse Bloomburg. Screw the Goracle for his AGW religion (speaking of one porker and another in Fat Teddy K).
No doubt society as a whole overeats the junk food. Let's make it more expensive by pushing for more ethanol. Let's ignore use of nuclear plants and our huge coal supplies. Maybe Jonathan Swift satire had it right- eat the Irish infants or in this case the ubiquitous  illegal alien offspring that gets automatic US citizenship. Wonder what price it would bring?  And let's round up those of us who bitch about overpopulation and euthanize THEM forthwith or at least sterilize the lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great- just what we need some bureaucrat&#8217;s arbitrary standards and gatekeeping of health resources. I don&#8217;t buy into those approved tables. I&#8217;m six three and 195# and look skinny and some table says I should be #165. I was 135 in high school and looked like a concentration camp survivor. Everyone has some bad habit or another. Screw Nurse Bloomburg. Screw the Goracle for his AGW religion (speaking of one porker and another in Fat Teddy K).<br />
No doubt society as a whole overeats the junk food. Let&#8217;s make it more expensive by pushing for more ethanol. Let&#8217;s ignore use of nuclear plants and our huge coal supplies. Maybe Jonathan Swift satire had it right- eat the Irish infants or in this case the ubiquitous  illegal alien offspring that gets automatic US citizenship. Wonder what price it would bring?  And let&#8217;s round up those of us who bitch about overpopulation and euthanize THEM forthwith or at least sterilize the lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Arnold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 21:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Nazis were also big Greenies too.&lt;/i&gt;
Green parties have always been pacifistic, so Nazis wouldn't qualify. From &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Party#Green_Parties_in_Europe" rel="nofollow"&gt;Wikipedia&lt;/a&gt;
"In contrast, formally organized "Green Parties" follow a coherent ideology that includes not only environmentalism, but also other concerns such as social justice, consensus decision-making, and pacifism."

The proposed legislation appears to be just ... insane and un-American. I expect the authors are receiving a lot of angry mail.
FWIW, private health care and/or employers who supply health care can be just as intrusive about habits generally considered unhealthy. This is more about control than how socialized a health care system is.

&lt;i&gt;(think racist Margaret Sanger)&lt;/i&gt;
This was new to me so I browsed around. The evidence seems thin, and some of the quotes used by anti-abortion-rights/pro-life groups appear to be simply false.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Nazis were also big Greenies too.</i><br />
Green parties have always been pacifistic, so Nazis wouldn&#8217;t qualify. From <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Party#Green_Parties_in_Europe" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia</a><br />
&#8220;In contrast, formally organized &#8220;Green Parties&#8221; follow a coherent ideology that includes not only environmentalism, but also other concerns such as social justice, consensus decision-making, and pacifism.&#8221;</p>
<p>The proposed legislation appears to be just &#8230; insane and un-American. I expect the authors are receiving a lot of angry mail.<br />
FWIW, private health care and/or employers who supply health care can be just as intrusive about habits generally considered unhealthy. This is more about control than how socialized a health care system is.</p>
<p><i>(think racist Margaret Sanger)</i><br />
This was new to me so I browsed around. The evidence seems thin, and some of the quotes used by anti-abortion-rights/pro-life groups appear to be simply false.</p>
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		<title>By: syn</title>
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		<dc:creator>syn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 16:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The odd thing about what is considered 'healthy' is that people who are under normal weight have a higher mortality rate than people just over normal weight.  

I learned this a couple of years ago when my health-nut father (bless his soul) died at the age of 69; he exercised heavily, kept his body mass under the norm, didn't smoke(hated smokers in fact), ate all the correct foods, moderate wine drinker yet he ended up with stage four lung cancer and regretfully died three months after diagnosis.

My mother(bless her soul) on the other hand smoked, was a little over the norm weight, took walks but not into heavy duty exercise, didn't worry about the correct type of food yet she managed to live 7 years longer than my father; she regretgully died from ovarian cancer at the age of 76.

What I know is that there is no way the government can prevent me from disease or death and that taking a thirty minute walk every other day does wonders for your health both mental and physical.

I am a tall, big-boned female who is a little over the norm but not heavy however, when placed next to an anexoric I look gigantic.  

It's true appearances can be deceiving and remember the camera adds ten pounds to the image you see.

Speaking of Nazis, they were big into the 'anti-smoker' mindset, I have a poster which depicts a Nazi in uniform whose giant jackboot is stomping down upon a cigar which at the tip of the cigar is the face of a black person to show how necessary it is to stomp out 'the dirty people'

It does tie into the eugenics concept (think racist Margaret Sanger) that blacks are (in sanger's mind) 'dirty' and should be stomped out, so to speak.

Nazis were also big Greenies too.

The underlying theme about it all is the desire to create 'a new world which is pure and clean and perfect'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The odd thing about what is considered &#8216;healthy&#8217; is that people who are under normal weight have a higher mortality rate than people just over normal weight.  </p>
<p>I learned this a couple of years ago when my health-nut father (bless his soul) died at the age of 69; he exercised heavily, kept his body mass under the norm, didn&#8217;t smoke(hated smokers in fact), ate all the correct foods, moderate wine drinker yet he ended up with stage four lung cancer and regretfully died three months after diagnosis.</p>
<p>My mother(bless her soul) on the other hand smoked, was a little over the norm weight, took walks but not into heavy duty exercise, didn&#8217;t worry about the correct type of food yet she managed to live 7 years longer than my father; she regretgully died from ovarian cancer at the age of 76.</p>
<p>What I know is that there is no way the government can prevent me from disease or death and that taking a thirty minute walk every other day does wonders for your health both mental and physical.</p>
<p>I am a tall, big-boned female who is a little over the norm but not heavy however, when placed next to an anexoric I look gigantic.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s true appearances can be deceiving and remember the camera adds ten pounds to the image you see.</p>
<p>Speaking of Nazis, they were big into the &#8216;anti-smoker&#8217; mindset, I have a poster which depicts a Nazi in uniform whose giant jackboot is stomping down upon a cigar which at the tip of the cigar is the face of a black person to show how necessary it is to stomp out &#8216;the dirty people&#8217;</p>
<p>It does tie into the eugenics concept (think racist Margaret Sanger) that blacks are (in sanger&#8217;s mind) &#8216;dirty&#8217; and should be stomped out, so to speak.</p>
<p>Nazis were also big Greenies too.</p>
<p>The underlying theme about it all is the desire to create &#8216;a new world which is pure and clean and perfect&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Moran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Moran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 14:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The politics or ideology of the lawmaker is not the point. It is his contention that obese people are costing government taxpayer monies that is the issue.

By his standard, anorexic people should also be targeted - perhaps by placing someone in the restaurant restroom to make sure they don't binge and purge. 

It is this mindset that leads to the NHS rationing care based not on need but on but on a subjective criteria having to do with lifestyle or viability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The politics or ideology of the lawmaker is not the point. It is his contention that obese people are costing government taxpayer monies that is the issue.</p>
<p>By his standard, anorexic people should also be targeted - perhaps by placing someone in the restaurant restroom to make sure they don&#8217;t binge and purge. </p>
<p>It is this mindset that leads to the NHS rationing care based not on need but on but on a subjective criteria having to do with lifestyle or viability.</p>
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