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		<title>By: JCHFleetguy</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/02/06/delegate-math-doesnt-add-up-for-romney/comment-page-1/#comment-1274270</link>
		<dc:creator>JCHFleetguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This race has been the Democrats to lose for quite a while now. Hopefully, as more of a classical, and certainly not a neo-,conservative - I hope conservatives will look at the horrendous errors of President Bush's 7 years and figure out exactly what they mean by "conservative". It is time to re-examine our ideology and repent our errors.

Does conservatism mean one massive deficit after another? Certainly as a fiscal conservative I see no difference between "tax and spend" and "tax cut and spend" if it means fiscal irresponsibility and budget deficits.

Does it mean the destruction of the idea of subsidiarity? Have we decided that big government is good - and that that governance should be done as far from the problem as possible?

As a Christian conservative (but not particularly a social one) - does it mean torture? Are we going to mimic President Clintion with the lame "well, it depends on how you define torture"? Does it mean the violation of all known definitions of the concept of Just 
War in the invasion of Iraq; and then the pathetic prosecution of that war until the last year? While it is both illegal and immoral for us to leave Iraq until there is a stable government and competent army to maintain order - we need to reflect on whether the invasion of Iraq in 2003 was ever the right thing to do.

Does it mean the abrogation of law by spying without a warrant? Holding prisoners without trial? Rendition to avoid the inconvenience of American standards for the treatment of captives? Does it mean the refusal to execute laws legally passed by the legislative branch because the executive branch doesn't agree?

Conservatives really do deserve to lose this election for allowing those who now call themselves conservatives to capture the mantle of what conservatism is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This race has been the Democrats to lose for quite a while now. Hopefully, as more of a classical, and certainly not a neo-,conservative - I hope conservatives will look at the horrendous errors of President Bush&#8217;s 7 years and figure out exactly what they mean by &#8220;conservative&#8221;. It is time to re-examine our ideology and repent our errors.</p>
<p>Does conservatism mean one massive deficit after another? Certainly as a fiscal conservative I see no difference between &#8220;tax and spend&#8221; and &#8220;tax cut and spend&#8221; if it means fiscal irresponsibility and budget deficits.</p>
<p>Does it mean the destruction of the idea of subsidiarity? Have we decided that big government is good - and that that governance should be done as far from the problem as possible?</p>
<p>As a Christian conservative (but not particularly a social one) - does it mean torture? Are we going to mimic President Clintion with the lame &#8220;well, it depends on how you define torture&#8221;? Does it mean the violation of all known definitions of the concept of Just<br />
War in the invasion of Iraq; and then the pathetic prosecution of that war until the last year? While it is both illegal and immoral for us to leave Iraq until there is a stable government and competent army to maintain order - we need to reflect on whether the invasion of Iraq in 2003 was ever the right thing to do.</p>
<p>Does it mean the abrogation of law by spying without a warrant? Holding prisoners without trial? Rendition to avoid the inconvenience of American standards for the treatment of captives? Does it mean the refusal to execute laws legally passed by the legislative branch because the executive branch doesn&#8217;t agree?</p>
<p>Conservatives really do deserve to lose this election for allowing those who now call themselves conservatives to capture the mantle of what conservatism is.</p>
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		<title>By: Dale</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/02/06/delegate-math-doesnt-add-up-for-romney/comment-page-1/#comment-1273886</link>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 12:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the other hand, and post with a combination of "Blazing Saddles" and Monty Python "Dead Parrot Sketch" ought to win the Watcher of Weasels, doncha think? 

Hugh somehow combines the desire for purity existant on the wonk side of the party, without the self-defeating willingness to throw an election to be on the side of the angels.

I voted for Romney on Tuesday, I'll vote for McCain  in November (despite the fact that Obama or Hillary will destroy him in Illinois).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the other hand, and post with a combination of &#8220;Blazing Saddles&#8221; and Monty Python &#8220;Dead Parrot Sketch&#8221; ought to win the Watcher of Weasels, doncha think? </p>
<p>Hugh somehow combines the desire for purity existant on the wonk side of the party, without the self-defeating willingness to throw an election to be on the side of the angels.</p>
<p>I voted for Romney on Tuesday, I&#8217;ll vote for McCain  in November (despite the fact that Obama or Hillary will destroy him in Illinois).</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 04:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone please tell me why everyone is demanding Romney give it up instead of Huckabee?  Is it possible that everyone knows Huckabee is only in to screw Romney, but noone wants to say so, and this if Romney would just give up, Huckabee would stop the idiotic charade?  I can't fathom why people don't start analyzing Huckabee and how ridiculous it is for him to stay in.  Huckabee has no chance of becoming the nominee, Romney has about 3% chance becoming the nominee, and McCain, presumably the nominee, has -10% chance of actually winning the race- probably even less because of the debacle that Huckabee and McCain have caused by really sticking it to Romney.  Their selfish self-interest (unlike Guilianni and Thompson)is only causing grief, resentment, lack of fundraising, extremely poor publicity, and getting the Democrats excited because they can smell Republican blood and they know not only will they kill the Republicans in the fall, but the Republicans are killing themselves now.  How is this Romney's fault?  He's staying in to date because he was viable- Huckabee is in to screw him (how Christian)and McCain is in because he wants the nomination at any and all costs, regardless of what's best for the party.  I'm glad he'll probably get it, because I'm convinced that after what he and Huckabee have done (don't blame talk radio for being mad), McCain will experience that exquisite "joy" of being internationally humiliated when the energized Democrats eat him alive, spit him out, and kick his sorry remains out of DC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone please tell me why everyone is demanding Romney give it up instead of Huckabee?  Is it possible that everyone knows Huckabee is only in to screw Romney, but noone wants to say so, and this if Romney would just give up, Huckabee would stop the idiotic charade?  I can&#8217;t fathom why people don&#8217;t start analyzing Huckabee and how ridiculous it is for him to stay in.  Huckabee has no chance of becoming the nominee, Romney has about 3% chance becoming the nominee, and McCain, presumably the nominee, has -10% chance of actually winning the race- probably even less because of the debacle that Huckabee and McCain have caused by really sticking it to Romney.  Their selfish self-interest (unlike Guilianni and Thompson)is only causing grief, resentment, lack of fundraising, extremely poor publicity, and getting the Democrats excited because they can smell Republican blood and they know not only will they kill the Republicans in the fall, but the Republicans are killing themselves now.  How is this Romney&#8217;s fault?  He&#8217;s staying in to date because he was viable- Huckabee is in to screw him (how Christian)and McCain is in because he wants the nomination at any and all costs, regardless of what&#8217;s best for the party.  I&#8217;m glad he&#8217;ll probably get it, because I&#8217;m convinced that after what he and Huckabee have done (don&#8217;t blame talk radio for being mad), McCain will experience that exquisite &#8220;joy&#8221; of being internationally humiliated when the energized Democrats eat him alive, spit him out, and kick his sorry remains out of DC.</p>
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		<title>By: steveegg</title>
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		<dc:creator>steveegg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 03:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, the RNC also lost.  Their candidate, Rudy Giuliani, pushed up the daisies after Florida because the national party underestimated the distain the early-state voters have for being told they don't matter.

Unfortunately for us, the conservatives both got aced and aced themselves right out of the party as the rank-and-file east of the Mississippi took the core message to drive the conservatives out to heart.  Romney ran as a third-termer, and had all of the flip-flop issues we savaged the last candidate from Massachussets for.  Thompson was singularily uninspiring to those with attention spans that do not allow for a reading of &lt;i&gt;War and Peace&lt;/i&gt; (sadly, most of the country).  The evangelicals attempted to foist a liberal in Christian clothing on us in Huckabee.  Now, we're stuck with a candidate that would rather put a 500-lb bomb on us than shake our hand.

As for the future delegate count, I went through the &lt;a href="http://norunnyeggs.com/2008/02/presidential-pool-the-next-2-weeks-republican-edition/" rel="nofollow"&gt;next 2 weeks' worth of contests&lt;/a&gt; involving 9 contests in 8 states/districts/territories, and there are, depending on whether one wants to count the "unpledged" delegates in Washington's caucus and dependent on result of Louisiana's primary, between 219 and 258 delegates up for grabs.  Except for those 18 "unpledged" Washington caucus delegates, 10 pledged ones from Washington's primary tied to the statewide vote, and the 6 up for grabs in Guam's caucus, all of those are some form of winner-take-all; 69 by Congressional district (4 of those) and 135 or 155 in 5 or 6 (respectively) statewide/DC-wide WTA contests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, the RNC also lost.  Their candidate, Rudy Giuliani, pushed up the daisies after Florida because the national party underestimated the distain the early-state voters have for being told they don&#8217;t matter.</p>
<p>Unfortunately for us, the conservatives both got aced and aced themselves right out of the party as the rank-and-file east of the Mississippi took the core message to drive the conservatives out to heart.  Romney ran as a third-termer, and had all of the flip-flop issues we savaged the last candidate from Massachussets for.  Thompson was singularily uninspiring to those with attention spans that do not allow for a reading of <i>War and Peace</i> (sadly, most of the country).  The evangelicals attempted to foist a liberal in Christian clothing on us in Huckabee.  Now, we&#8217;re stuck with a candidate that would rather put a 500-lb bomb on us than shake our hand.</p>
<p>As for the future delegate count, I went through the <a href="http://norunnyeggs.com/2008/02/presidential-pool-the-next-2-weeks-republican-edition/" rel="nofollow">next 2 weeks&#8217; worth of contests</a> involving 9 contests in 8 states/districts/territories, and there are, depending on whether one wants to count the &#8220;unpledged&#8221; delegates in Washington&#8217;s caucus and dependent on result of Louisiana&#8217;s primary, between 219 and 258 delegates up for grabs.  Except for those 18 &#8220;unpledged&#8221; Washington caucus delegates, 10 pledged ones from Washington&#8217;s primary tied to the statewide vote, and the 6 up for grabs in Guam&#8217;s caucus, all of those are some form of winner-take-all; 69 by Congressional district (4 of those) and 135 or 155 in 5 or 6 (respectively) statewide/DC-wide WTA contests.</p>
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		<title>By: retire05</title>
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		<dc:creator>retire05</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 02:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And if there is anyone out there that still thinks that McCain can win against Obama, facts don't matter to them.  

Democrats are going for "young" and "new".  Something Republicans seem unable to take note of.  

And with McCain telling us to "suck it up" and take one for the team, makes my head hurt even more than it did last night.  Maybe McCain needs to "suck it up" and do one for the team.  Like act like a conservative Republican and not act like one of the three musketeers standing on the podium with Joe Liberman and Lindsey (you are all racists) Graham.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if there is anyone out there that still thinks that McCain can win against Obama, facts don&#8217;t matter to them.  </p>
<p>Democrats are going for &#8220;young&#8221; and &#8220;new&#8221;.  Something Republicans seem unable to take note of.  </p>
<p>And with McCain telling us to &#8220;suck it up&#8221; and take one for the team, makes my head hurt even more than it did last night.  Maybe McCain needs to &#8220;suck it up&#8221; and do one for the team.  Like act like a conservative Republican and not act like one of the three musketeers standing on the podium with Joe Liberman and Lindsey (you are all racists) Graham.</p>
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		<title>By: Corey Cronrath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey Cronrath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the insightful posting. I think its time for the opponents of John McCain to start being reasonable, follow the wonderful example of Hugh Hewitt, who has been no fan of McCain by any stretch. I am a supporter of McCain's, but I realize that he has taken some positions and said some things that other conservatives find it difficult to accept. I do not blame them for voicing their concerns, as this is a primary. However, I think calling McCain a liberal and vowing not to vote for him, or, worse yet, to vote Hillary, is completely off the wall. McCain is great on the war, spending, and judges. To not support him if he wins the nom is like saying you are ok with us going back on defense in the WOT, that Roe v. Wade standing for another generation is ok, and that record deficits don't bother you. How can any real conservative be comfortable with those things?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the insightful posting. I think its time for the opponents of John McCain to start being reasonable, follow the wonderful example of Hugh Hewitt, who has been no fan of McCain by any stretch. I am a supporter of McCain&#8217;s, but I realize that he has taken some positions and said some things that other conservatives find it difficult to accept. I do not blame them for voicing their concerns, as this is a primary. However, I think calling McCain a liberal and vowing not to vote for him, or, worse yet, to vote Hillary, is completely off the wall. McCain is great on the war, spending, and judges. To not support him if he wins the nom is like saying you are ok with us going back on defense in the WOT, that Roe v. Wade standing for another generation is ok, and that record deficits don&#8217;t bother you. How can any real conservative be comfortable with those things?</p>
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		<title>By: mikeyslaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikeyslaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right. McCain has it. And Hillary's getting out the vote machine is better than Obama's. It's going to be a McCain-Hillary match-up. The numbers of Dems who are voting in the primaries is scary big.They could well end up with big majorities in both the Senate, and the House.And the presidency. What Obama has done is really unbelievable. I would love to be a fly on the wall in her campaign meetings with the leaders of her campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right. McCain has it. And Hillary&#8217;s getting out the vote machine is better than Obama&#8217;s. It&#8217;s going to be a McCain-Hillary match-up. The numbers of Dems who are voting in the primaries is scary big.They could well end up with big majorities in both the Senate, and the House.And the presidency. What Obama has done is really unbelievable. I would love to be a fly on the wall in her campaign meetings with the leaders of her campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rightpundits is claiming Mitt may stay in to throw delegates to Huckabee and block McCain.  Any truth to this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rightpundits is claiming Mitt may stay in to throw delegates to Huckabee and block McCain.  Any truth to this?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain to his able brother Huckabee: "OH bringer of the Lord, why not stab good able brother Romney in the back?" 

To which brother Huckabee replies, "Why not? I shall do as you say but for a price my after the deadly dead is done partner in crime."  

After the deadly dead is done, the Lord God descends upon the two schemers &#38; betrayers, and asks McCain, â€œWhere is your able brother Romney?â€ 

â€œI donâ€™t know,â€ McCain replied. â€œAm I my brother Romneyâ€™s guardian?â€ 

Then God said, â€œWhat have you done? Your brotherâ€™s blood cries out to Me from the ground! So now you are cursed [with alienation] from the ground that opened its mouth to receive your brotherâ€™s blood you have shed. If you work the land, it will never again give you its yield. You will be a restless wanderer on the earth.â€ 

One way or the other Reagan would have distanced himself from a politician such as the present-day McCain. Reagan would have made McCain look like faux "conservative" milk toast that he really is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain to his able brother Huckabee: &#8220;OH bringer of the Lord, why not stab good able brother Romney in the back?&#8221; </p>
<p>To which brother Huckabee replies, &#8220;Why not? I shall do as you say but for a price my after the deadly dead is done partner in crime.&#8221;  </p>
<p>After the deadly dead is done, the Lord God descends upon the two schemers &amp; betrayers, and asks McCain, â€œWhere is your able brother Romney?â€ </p>
<p>â€œI donâ€™t know,â€ McCain replied. â€œAm I my brother Romneyâ€™s guardian?â€ </p>
<p>Then God said, â€œWhat have you done? Your brotherâ€™s blood cries out to Me from the ground! So now you are cursed [with alienation] from the ground that opened its mouth to receive your brotherâ€™s blood you have shed. If you work the land, it will never again give you its yield. You will be a restless wanderer on the earth.â€ </p>
<p>One way or the other Reagan would have distanced himself from a politician such as the present-day McCain. Reagan would have made McCain look like faux &#8220;conservative&#8221; milk toast that he really is.</p>
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		<title>By: SimplyKimberly</title>
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		<dc:creator>SimplyKimberly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to go with what Steve has said.

McCain is going to lose in November - the only question is how badly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to go with what Steve has said.</p>
<p>McCain is going to lose in November - the only question is how badly.</p>
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