And as prophecied THE ELECT OF CHRIST will know anti christ is anti christ,, not Jesus..
And this is the dividing line of humanity to determine your future in heaven with the real Jesus or in hell with the fake messiah which certainly appears to be Obama..

I have read of rezko, Ayers, Wright, Obama’s anti christian views and he is entirely that, the not yet revealed relationship between obama and the 3 murdered homosexual men from his church.. His alliegence to his christian killing muslim cousin Odinga.. etc. etc .etc. etc. etc…TO DATE I HAVE NOT READ OF ONE GOOD OR HONORABLE THING OBAMA HAS ACCOMPLISHED.
NOT TO MENTION THE DIVISION HE HAS ALREADY CAUSED…
Mark 13:13. He that endures to the END shal be saved. Learn what this means before it is too late..

from a right wing nut that sees clearly

The Muslim issue is only one part of it. Who cares what his father was, he left by the time Obama was two. Some posters say the school when he was 8 and 9 didn’t teach the 3 R’s. Who made that up?
But I won’t even fight that. The next year he was back in Hawaii with his white grandparents who then raised him to adulthood. Do you think they practiced jihad after school? Why are you hung up on what he did in 3rd and 4th grade?

He does say the Pledge of Allegiance with his hand on his heart. The infamous picture was taken during the national anthem. I fact check rumors on candidates and when I was checking this one I came on this page
http://civicalert.org/2008/02/25/oh-say-can-you-see-both-george-bushes-must-be-unpatriotic-if-obama-is/
Along with his picture are pictures with George Bush Sr and George W Bush doing the same thing in a crowd that does have their hand on their heart. That was good enough for me.

Then someone ominously says to look into Chicago paper to his tie to Rezko and “security guards for Iraqi power plants”. Yes, please do. They’ll tell you the company did request help in getting the contract and they were declined.
The whole Rezko connection is so overblown.Rezko wasn’t considered scum until a few years ago. Their connection has been investigated for a couple years, there isn’t any finding of wrong doing on Obama’s part. It’s back in the news because the Clinton campaign is pushing it. As he finds out donations are connected to Rezko he donates it to charity. He actually has a lot less dirt or money that had to be returned than Clinton or even McCain. He just isn’t a dirty politician.

He isn’t for releasing those held at Guantanamo Bay, he wants to close that down and put them in prison. He plans phased withdrawal from Iraq over a couple years with other plans to help the region. He wants to strengthen the military and send more troops to Afghanistan and with the resurgent Taliban there we have to do something. He has costly plans to help veterans but I think we have to, we owe them.
He doesn’t plan to stop allowing spying on terrorists. Currently even all domestic calls pass through the screening and there is not oversight to this. Obama doesn’t say anything wrong is being done, but he calls it needing someone to watch the watchers because the power is subject to abuse. Honestly I think that is a pretty conservative position, no branch of government should have absolute power. The bright side is he and future presidents couldn’t abuse it either.

Speaking of conservative his tax plans make fiscal sense. The “raised” tax is just letting the Bush tax cuts for the upper 2% expire and many economists have been concerned about tax cuts during war time. Past presidents didn’t do it.
However he has some tax cuts for the middle class and those are likelier to spur the economy because those in the middle class are likelier to spend their increased income. He also wants seniors with incomes under 50,000 to pay no taxes. So his tax plans aren’t the problem, it’s his spending that worries me.

I notice people objecting to his plan for a tax credit for college students that they can work off. I’m mixed. If the work part is well run it could be good. Does anyone have college age children? The cost is crushing whether you are liberal or conservative and kids graduate with so much debt into a weakening employment field. We need to be more competitive and right now it’s the middle class that’s hurt again. Lower income qualify for more financial aid and rich people can afford it.
Who has tried to help the middle class lately? That should be a conservative value. Too bad this guy is a Democrat and is so liberal on some things. If this wasn’t so long I’d go into my complaints.

Obama is an semi-out-of-closet left-liberal extremist. he hides his record with more moderate rhetoric when is suits him, but his record is clear, even if thin - the National Journal judged him the most liberal senator in the U.S. Senate.
http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/
His record:

1. In Illinois, his most singular accomplishment was the extremist position of opposing the born-alive Infant Protection Act (BAIPA). Victims of abortion who were “accidently” born alive were allowed to die in Illinois clinics, and a nurse and others brought evidence. obama fought against it in hearings and voted against it when it came up.
2. Obama has courted homosexual activists by advocating their agenda.Obama is pledging to advance gay marriage by overturning DOMA and pledges to advance the gay agenda by forcing the military to allow gays to serve openly.
3. Profoundly anti-Israeli advisors on ME foreign policy, wants talks with Hamas terrorists.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1961345/posts
4. For drivers licenses for illegal aliens, and for everything that will make the illegal immigration crisis worse and not better. Voted agains the Seecure border fence in 2006 (pulled a Kerry, voted against it and against cloture and then voted for it to protect his political viability on the issue).
5. He is for expanding the welfare state with close to a trillion in various giveaways, albeit calling his welfare payments “tax credits” and couching his college giveaways in ’service’ terms (it funds leftist community activist groups at taxpayer expense).
6. Has voted already repeatedly for higher taxes and opposed tax reductions.
7. His unrealistic and unachievable withdraw them pronto position is a 2006 position on Iraq, already outdated by the success of the surge. Now the choice is whether we choose to win the peace after we’ve won the war or throw it away in 2009. Obama’s throwaway position is out of touch with reality.
8. His failure to distance himself from Farrakhan, the lapel pin flap, Michelle’s words about not being proud to be American until now, his associations with 60s radicals who were bombmakers, by themselves they dont amount to much, but together they amount to a picture of a man more comfortable running with the alienated radicals than with patriotic “Duty, Honor, Country” Americans.

Yes, it was a statement about Islam, that heightens the stakes for a true answer to the question here. No one has proved anything about Obama. Not yet. Or else your definition of proof is quite loose and hearsay-oriented. You WANT to believe, as do many. So you believe.

Of course it is necessary to vet every candidate, but McCain has a long lead of being investigated in depth for security clearances. Obama, not so long.
I question strongly why anyone would object to a thorough investigation of candidates for the Presidency, least of all the candidates themselves. Unless, of course, they have something to hide…

If he has shady dealings with shady people, and is a close associate with shady people, such as Muslims that are true to their faith and their commitment to jihad (read terrorism in the name of Allah), or is himself a closet Muslim, then he is not Presidential material in my book. No way!

Sure, that scrutiny should be placed on any presidential candidate.

So I ask you, Manning, have you scrutinized McCain to make sure he’s not a Muslim who’s committed to jihad? No? Why not? Could it be that McCain’s middle name is not Hussein, and his skin is pink and not brown? I mean, it’s been solidly shown that neither McCain nor Obama are Muslims, although unsupported claims to the opposite are regularly made about Obama. From what I can see, you’re basing your special scrutiny on Obama either on his name, his skin color, or the unsupported claims, or perhaps a combination of the three. Can you explain that differently?

They need to spend time in the Koran, Haddith, and other valid documents of that faith, and stop having warm feelings for Muslims. Spent the time reading up or don’t talk about it.

That is a statement about Islam, and not about Obama who is not a Muslim. Just to clarify.

What you would benefit from, clearly, is to meet some Muslims. It may be hard to fathom this, but the vast majority are not terrorists, but regular people living their lives just like you or me. I’ve married into a family of very moderate, professional Pakistani Muslims living mostly in the UK, and have spent a lot of time with their wider community. The percentage of them who are terrorists is infinitesimal, probably similar to how many Christians live by the word of Leviticus and how it recommends we treat our slaves, etc.

It is just stupid for us to make the calculation: funny name + African dad + suspiciously intelligent and well educated white mother (thus, a possible commie) = ZOMFG MUSLIM TERRORIST!!! (unless he proves otherwise by changing his name to Bob White and promising to kill all muslims).

http://13martyrs.blogspot.com/